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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
June 28 2012 13:06 GMT
#3701
On June 28 2012 22:05 -Kira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 22:02 bokchoi wrote:
On June 28 2012 22:01 -Kira wrote:
Fuck zerg


Squirtle got outplayed in that second set of games. Simple as that.


That doesn't change my opinion on zerg


well keep your opinion to yourself or express it in a way that would not only piss everyone off and kill your credibility on anything related to balance but just straight up kick you out of teamliquid.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Biane
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia645 Posts
June 28 2012 13:06 GMT
#3702
On June 28 2012 22:06 Bam Lee wrote:
damn squirtle is out. How could MC beat squirtle


4 gate
DayWalk3r
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada192 Posts
June 28 2012 13:06 GMT
#3703
Reading the reactions on this thread on MC's hold is making my morning :-D
Looks like full marks on liquibets >.<
Protoss not imba ... KiwiKaki MC Polt Bomber Hwaiting!
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
June 28 2012 13:06 GMT
#3704
khaldor: our foreigners are competing tomorrow
meanwhile: fnatic == all koreans
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
June 28 2012 13:06 GMT
#3705
Ro8 is looking pretty exciting. I expect Symbol and MC to advance to Ro4.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 28 2012 13:06 GMT
#3706
On June 28 2012 22:04 OhSix wrote:
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On June 28 2012 22:01 Mozdk wrote:
Broken


Really? All you can say is "Broken?" ELABORATE, TELL ME MORE! (;


His heart is broken.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
June 28 2012 13:06 GMT
#3707
On June 28 2012 22:03 IMPrime wrote:
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On June 28 2012 21:55 Heavenlee wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:49 IMPrime wrote:
for people who say to make ghosts

emp vs fungal is very similar to emp vs storm

EMP is only useful against the spellcasters (in tvp it does take off shields, but it's not a whole lot aside from the stalkers and immortals).
fungal/storm is useful against everything

this increases the difficulty in getting the EMP in time before the other spellcasters do something


I can do this exact same thing with almost every situation and make it sound ridiculously impossible for my race to win. I could write an essay on any of the below points and make it sound like my race is just completely hopeless.

If I go for colossi he can have a ton of vikings to snipe them unless I build stalkers which are horrible against marauders.

If I go for zealot/archon I get rolled over by marine/ghost.

If I go marine/ghost I get rolled after by stalker/colossi.

Snipe outranges feedback. Ghosts can cloak while vikings can snipe observers from a far distance with scans.

Terran can kite back my zealots because zealots move faster than the rest of the protoss army, killing those while positioning vikings to take out colossi from an angle that is bad for me.

I can't possibly deal with mass chargelot because I lack the DPS to take them out, and I will have to try to snipe off colossi with my vikings but there will be blink stalkers.

GGGGGGGG impossibru


do you even understand my point?

ghosts are only useful against certain units

infestors/HTs are useful against nearly every unit

this means when ghosts go in to EMP, you have to aim for the spellcasters, while infestors/HTs can basically hit ANYTHING and it will do a lot of damage.


Do you even understand my point?

You can theorycraft balance whine all you want and make your position seem the most reasonable thing in the world when it's not. I could, for instance, discuss the massive DPS and effectiveness of MMM while discussing how a "good terran player will EMP my templar and make them worthless". You are completely neglecting the obvious counterpoint that the races are designed differently where infestor/broodlord is a different sort of composition than MMMG, with MMM being extremely cost-effective with high medivac counts and ghosts being there to neutralize the units that make them non-cost-effective, which is infestors. Same for MMMG v Gateway + Templar.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
June 28 2012 13:07 GMT
#3708
On June 28 2012 22:06 Disengaged wrote:
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On June 28 2012 22:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 28 2012 22:04 Disengaged wrote:
I picked MC and Symbol to get out of the group :D


so did I.


We believed!


meh to me it was a logical choice to make.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
SilentSC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United States505 Posts
June 28 2012 13:07 GMT
#3709
Fnatic = 8 Koreans... 2 Foreigners...

Yep a lot of foreigners on that team.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
June 28 2012 13:07 GMT
#3710
On June 28 2012 22:06 Biane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 22:06 Bam Lee wrote:
damn squirtle is out. How could MC beat squirtle


4 gate


lol that is so misleading.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
TheTrueNok
Profile Joined November 2011
Belgium34 Posts
June 28 2012 13:07 GMT
#3711
On June 28 2012 22:05 -Kira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 22:02 bokchoi wrote:
On June 28 2012 22:01 -Kira wrote:
Fuck zerg


Squirtle got outplayed in that second set of games. Simple as that.


That doesn't change my opinion on zerg

Your tears, so yummy, hmmmmm
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
June 28 2012 13:07 GMT
#3712
People saying roach drop is the answer, its not that simple.

The straight up 2 base all in with no nexus cancel hits before drop would be close to finishing. Only if your able to stall your opponent with threatening counter attacks it might be done in time to help.
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 13:07:53
June 28 2012 13:07 GMT
#3713
On June 28 2012 22:06 Biane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 22:06 Bam Lee wrote:
damn squirtle is out. How could MC beat squirtle


4 gate

Edit: Lol I'm just silly.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
June 28 2012 13:07 GMT
#3714
Too bad Squirtle dropped. He is in my mind the best protoss chance for the GSL title. I caught the last game and his fake all-in was way too late. Not sure whether that worked in practice. Symbole could even have gone with mutas with such a delayed push. (Zerg drop upgrade takes long time, iirc.)
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
June 28 2012 13:07 GMT
#3715
On June 28 2012 22:06 Derez wrote:
Oh and Squirtle, this is what you get when you screw yourself over by intentionally picking a strong player. ST coaches should have forced him to pick a relatively bad opponent.


Karma for both of them... Squirtle pulled an MC and MKP did aswell... (by choosing MC no less) hahaha

Wait... does that re-define pulling an MC? get picked 4th, and come 1st? pewpew.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
June 28 2012 13:07 GMT
#3716
On June 28 2012 22:06 MangoMountain wrote:
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On June 28 2012 22:05 Havik_ wrote:
Protoss is designed around FF and when you can Overlord drop and negate FFs, that could just force the metagame down to even fewer strategies. What beats Overlord drop? 2 Stargate Void Ray? Blink Stalker all in?

Well clearly the answer to an all-in not working anymore is more all-ins.

It quite clearly isn't macro play considering the second game o.o.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
June 28 2012 13:08 GMT
#3717
On June 28 2012 22:06 Biane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 22:06 Bam Lee wrote:
damn squirtle is out. How could MC beat squirtle


4 gate

lol you mean defending a 4 gate with a 2 gate robo
Mmm, what to watch.
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
June 28 2012 13:08 GMT
#3718
On June 28 2012 22:07 TheTrueNok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 22:05 -Kira wrote:
On June 28 2012 22:02 bokchoi wrote:
On June 28 2012 22:01 -Kira wrote:
Fuck zerg


Squirtle got outplayed in that second set of games. Simple as that.


That doesn't change my opinion on zerg

Your tears, so yummy, hmmmmm


Never really understood how someone can hate a certain race.

Loses to them a lot on ladder i geuss.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
June 28 2012 13:08 GMT
#3719
thanks Symbol <3
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
June 28 2012 13:08 GMT
#3720
On June 28 2012 22:07 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 22:06 Biane wrote:
On June 28 2012 22:06 Bam Lee wrote:
damn squirtle is out. How could MC beat squirtle


4 gate

Edit: Lol I'm just silly.




MC was hacking :p
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
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