• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:04
CEST 04:04
KST 11:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach4[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double1Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2313Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon105
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest 1 Replay Pack Recent patches and the Future StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Grand Finals ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Bot on ladder [ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach PLAYzone Challenge - open offline tour in Prague an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot
Tourneys
[ASL22] Rp8 Day 4 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Total Annihilation Zero Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Violent-Cooperative Play and…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5205 users

[Code S] Ro16 Group A 2012 GSL Season 3 - Page 75

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 73 74 75 76 77 138 Next
no balance whine, tangential theorycraft, etc, bans/warns after page 91
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
June 27 2012 11:46 GMT
#1481
On June 27 2012 20:42 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 20:40 Reasonable wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:36 Proseat wrote:
Such a shame that TaeJa was robbed of advancing in first place. *sigh*

Taeja wasn't robbed of nothing. In the first game he clearly messed up. In the second game he obtained intel with his scouting marine but pulled too few drones. Also, since when do terrans make only two bunkers against protoss?

terrans only make 1 bunker against protoss, because u dont have a observer so your scouting is very limited. if u make 3-4 bunkers and camp in ur base while he goes for greedy build its autoloss aswell

It is not 3-4, it was 3 standard bunkers when no-scout about 2 months ago and it was just barely enough to hold protoss 6 gate or immortal push. 1 bunker pretty much equals in cost to 1 scv scouting. Besides those bunkers only hold minerals for the time period until medivacs pop out, then you salvage them right away, maybe leaving one just in case.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 27 2012 11:46 GMT
#1482
On June 27 2012 20:44 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 20:42 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:40 darkness wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:39 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Think Violet is the scariest opponent for MVP in this group. MVP can probably pull through still though


And he also plays zerg. We all know how MVP complains about zerg lately. ^^

Yeah, he complains a bunch. . .in his winners interviews.

That's something I've always chuckled about.

Terran having a hard time?

MVP agrees, wins wins championship

Terran having a good time?

MVP queit, wins wins championship



Mvp isn't Terran though, he's Mvp.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
June 27 2012 11:46 GMT
#1483
On June 27 2012 20:42 doffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 20:41 Drazerk wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:39 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:38 doffe wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:35 Derrida wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:34 FataLe wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:33 chambertin wrote:
sigh... Toss double all-in, Taeja T_T

seed double all-in.


I'm not sure how game 2 was all-in?


well, define all in then. 6gate no tech cut probes.. Id say its pretty much an all in. If it doesnt do substantial damage he looses.

But again, define all in. Everything can be transitioned out of if it does enough damage so technichally nothing short of pulling ALL workers is an all in.


Men pull buildings too


An all in is where you kill every single one of your own buildings while consturcting a supply depot / pylon in the main of your oppenent. For zerg they build a proxy extractor as close the enemy base as possible. Ideally inside the enemy main. When all of this has been done the Player then pulls all their scvs and A moves into the opponent without the use of micro. If any micro is used the attack is NOT an all in. All ins are the rarest thing in Esports and shouldn't be tarnished by things that are really not all ins.

LR guide book FTW


Thanks for clearing that up! So this is the official definition now mkay?


Theres an official rulebook you know
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4559 Posts
June 27 2012 11:46 GMT
#1484
On June 27 2012 20:46 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 20:44 FataLe wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:42 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:40 darkness wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:39 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Think Violet is the scariest opponent for MVP in this group. MVP can probably pull through still though


And he also plays zerg. We all know how MVP complains about zerg lately. ^^

Yeah, he complains a bunch. . .in his winners interviews.

That's something I've always chuckled about.

Terran having a hard time?

MVP agrees, wins wins championship

Terran having a good time?

MVP queit, wins wins championship



Mvp isn't Terran though, he's Mvp.


wins wins championship
hi. big fan.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 27 2012 11:46 GMT
#1485
On June 27 2012 20:46 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 20:42 doffe wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:41 Drazerk wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:39 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:38 doffe wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:35 Derrida wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:34 FataLe wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:33 chambertin wrote:
sigh... Toss double all-in, Taeja T_T

seed double all-in.


I'm not sure how game 2 was all-in?


well, define all in then. 6gate no tech cut probes.. Id say its pretty much an all in. If it doesnt do substantial damage he looses.

But again, define all in. Everything can be transitioned out of if it does enough damage so technichally nothing short of pulling ALL workers is an all in.


Men pull buildings too


An all in is where you kill every single one of your own buildings while consturcting a supply depot / pylon in the main of your oppenent. For zerg they build a proxy extractor as close the enemy base as possible. Ideally inside the enemy main. When all of this has been done the Player then pulls all their scvs and A moves into the opponent without the use of micro. If any micro is used the attack is NOT an all in. All ins are the rarest thing in Esports and shouldn't be tarnished by things that are really not all ins.

LR guide book FTW


Thanks for clearing that up! So this is the official definition now mkay?


Theres an official rulebook you know


I badly need to update that lol
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
June 27 2012 11:46 GMT
#1486
On June 27 2012 20:43 polyphonyEX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 20:40 Reasonable wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:36 Proseat wrote:
Such a shame that TaeJa was robbed of advancing in first place. *sigh*

Taeja wasn't robbed of nothing. In the first game he clearly messed up. In the second game he obtained intel with his scouting marine but pulled too few drones. Also, since when do terrans make only two bunkers against protoss?

this
[image loading]
http://i.imgur.com/pYbB6.jpg

and it only costs 175 minerals! (sort of lol)
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 27 2012 11:47 GMT
#1487
NO YOU ARE WRONG

THERE IS NO WATER PUNCH
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
June 27 2012 11:47 GMT
#1488
On June 27 2012 20:43 polyphonyEX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 20:40 Reasonable wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:36 Proseat wrote:
Such a shame that TaeJa was robbed of advancing in first place. *sigh*

Taeja wasn't robbed of nothing. In the first game he clearly messed up. In the second game he obtained intel with his scouting marine but pulled too few drones. Also, since when do terrans make only two bunkers against protoss?

this
[image loading]
http://i.imgur.com/pYbB6.jpg


No that was different. MVP actually went 1 rax into 3 CC that game. You probably only need ~4 vs a 6 gate if you don't play greedy xD
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
June 27 2012 11:47 GMT
#1489
SHIGGY
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
June 27 2012 11:47 GMT
#1490
On June 27 2012 20:39 gengka wrote:
TVP
1) T do damage at early/mid game = have a chance to win
2) T do no damage at early mid/game = very difficult to win
3) T receive damage at early/mid game? = No chance to win

Correct me i am wrong, share with me any tournament matches where T was damaged earlier but made a comeback at lategame. thanks


I've seen it happen but it was mainly due to retarded mistakes by the protoss that the T was able to comeback
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
June 27 2012 11:48 GMT
#1491
Khaldor speaking the truth about subs.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
June 27 2012 11:48 GMT
#1492
On June 27 2012 20:43 Arceus wrote:
imo mvp will just activate his championship form winning 4 maps in less an hour
and IM will secure a sponsorship by Adidas

If an IM player wins this season, they'll be sponsored by Exxon-Mobil and Google
"Expert" mods4ever.com
MBH
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland796 Posts
June 27 2012 11:48 GMT
#1493
SHIIIIIGYYYYYYYYYYY
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
June 27 2012 11:48 GMT
#1494
On June 27 2012 20:47 QuanticTheognis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 20:43 polyphonyEX wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:40 Reasonable wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:36 Proseat wrote:
Such a shame that TaeJa was robbed of advancing in first place. *sigh*

Taeja wasn't robbed of nothing. In the first game he clearly messed up. In the second game he obtained intel with his scouting marine but pulled too few drones. Also, since when do terrans make only two bunkers against protoss?

this
[image loading]
http://i.imgur.com/pYbB6.jpg


No that was different. MVP actually went 1 rax into 3 CC that game. You probably only need ~4 vs a 6 gate if you don't play greedy xD

well, yeah I guess but Taeja still needed more than just 2 bunkers in that game.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 27 2012 11:48 GMT
#1495
On June 27 2012 20:47 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 20:39 gengka wrote:
TVP
1) T do damage at early/mid game = have a chance to win
2) T do no damage at early mid/game = very difficult to win
3) T receive damage at early/mid game? = No chance to win

Correct me i am wrong, share with me any tournament matches where T was damaged earlier but made a comeback at lategame. thanks


I've seen it happen but it was mainly due to retarded mistakes by the protoss that the T was able to comeback


Guess what, comebacks always happen due to the other guy making mistakes. If a player doesn't make a mistake, then the other player can't take advantage of it to come back..
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
June 27 2012 11:49 GMT
#1496
Was going to sleep, but Mvp games aren't that long. so I'll watch this one ^^
Mmm, what to watch.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 27 2012 11:49 GMT
#1497
MVP 2-1. Going to be close though
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Morphage
Profile Joined September 2011
France492 Posts
June 27 2012 11:49 GMT
#1498
I'm curious to see if MVP will be able to win against a zerg. Show us the way MVP :D !!!
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
June 27 2012 11:49 GMT
#1499
On June 27 2012 20:46 Reasonable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 20:42 teddyoojo wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:40 Reasonable wrote:
On June 27 2012 20:36 Proseat wrote:
Such a shame that TaeJa was robbed of advancing in first place. *sigh*

Taeja wasn't robbed of nothing. In the first game he clearly messed up. In the second game he obtained intel with his scouting marine but pulled too few drones. Also, since when do terrans make only two bunkers against protoss?

terrans only make 1 bunker against protoss, because u dont have a observer so your scouting is very limited. if u make 3-4 bunkers and camp in ur base while he goes for greedy build its autoloss aswell

It is not 3-4, it was 3 standard bunkers when no-scout about 2 months ago and it was just barely enough to hold protoss 6 gate or immortal push. 1 bunker pretty much equals in cost to 1 scv scouting. Besides those bunkers only hold minerals for the time period until medivacs pop out, then you salvage them right away, maybe leaving one just in case.


it has never been standard to put down 3 bunkers without knowing heavy pressure is coming, it delays all your timings significantly. Yes you can salvage them after medivacs, but getting to medivacs will take at least 30 seconds longer.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
June 27 2012 11:49 GMT
#1500
Is there anyone that actually likes Whirlwind as a map?

Prev 1 73 74 75 76 77 138 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 56m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 198
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2562
NotJumperer 1
Dota 2
monkeys_forever799
NeuroSwarm188
Other Games
summit1g8165
Coldzera 765
Day[9].tv746
JimRising 580
C9.Mang0380
PiGStarcraft202
ArmadaUGS53
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick867
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream344
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 124
• davetesta20
• Letter146
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Day9tv746
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
7h 56m
Afreeca Starleague
7h 56m
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
21h 56m
Kung Fu Cup
1d 8h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Online Event
4 days
FEL
4 days
AI Arena Tournament
4 days
[ Show More ]
BSL: Ladder Tournament
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-27
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.