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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
June 26 2012 12:18 GMT
#1741
On June 26 2012 21:18 habeck wrote:
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On June 26 2012 21:17 nkr wrote:
On June 26 2012 21:16 habeck wrote:
Thats why BLIZZ shouldnt NERFED ghost so hard



??? He never made a ghost, lol


Well, im too tired to explain this to you


I think you can't actually explain it at all.
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IMPrime
Profile Joined September 2011
United States715 Posts
June 26 2012 12:18 GMT
#1742
On June 26 2012 21:16 Mentalizor wrote:
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On June 26 2012 21:16 gawk wrote:
On June 26 2012 21:13 Ucs wrote:
At least bomber proved Raven's are the dumbest spellcaster in the game.

Someone should tell him not to seeker-missile his own ravens.


Or clumb them up against mass infestor


kinda hard not to clump when seeker missile has about 4 range
Seany
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia114 Posts
June 26 2012 12:19 GMT
#1743
On June 26 2012 21:17 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 21:16 habeck wrote:
Thats why BLIZZ shouldnt NERFED ghost so hard



??? He never made a ghost, lol


he is meta-gaming the balance whine, complaining about units that were never used..

Next step is using a PvZ as an example of terran UPness
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 26 2012 12:19 GMT
#1744
On June 26 2012 21:18 Probe1 wrote:
Yeah now for the classic "Wear down your opponent in the second game" strategy.

Pretty standard. I do it all the time on the ladder if I get someone twice in a row
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glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
June 26 2012 12:19 GMT
#1745
On June 26 2012 21:17 sevia wrote:
Lesson learned: never let Freaky get 33 infestors.


Unless you're SlayerS_Crank
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Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
June 26 2012 12:19 GMT
#1746
On June 26 2012 21:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
So I came in after this game was completely random infestor bs. Did bomber go for his sc2 variation of SK terran with MM + lots of ravens?


Yeah he opened it up really cool and then transitioned to mass over 10 BC's with 3/3 upgrades. But infestors just killed everything
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ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
June 26 2012 12:19 GMT
#1747
After that game, rooting for freaky.
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 12:20:13
June 26 2012 12:19 GMT
#1748
On June 26 2012 21:15 HeroMystic wrote:
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On June 26 2012 21:12 SKYFISH_ wrote:
On June 26 2012 21:09 SeeKeR wrote:
On June 26 2012 21:09 SKYFISH_ wrote:
On June 26 2012 21:06 SeeKeR wrote:
Poll: Ghosts?

Like 15 minutes ago maybe..... (31)
 
45%

MOAR RAVENS MOAR!!! (29)
 
42%

No he's fine (8)
 
12%

YES!! (1)
 
1%

69 total votes

Your vote: Ghosts?

(Vote): YES!!
(Vote): Like 15 minutes ago maybe.....
(Vote): No he's fine
(Vote): MOAR RAVENS MOAR!!!



lets sedate our brains, listen to khaldor and totaly disregard the fact that 40 infestors can fungle into oblivion any amount of ghosts bomber can produce in this situation

hence, the "like 15 minutes ago" option

you mean 15 minutes ago when bomber was maxing out on BCs and ravens?
yeah, why not


I should also say those Ravens weren't cost-efficient at all.

We've all been saying Ravens are terrible lategame, and Freaky showed why (splitting units). Maybe this'll get everyone to shut up about Ravens being the savior of Terran lategame.

That said, I do agree Bomber should've made Ghosts. They're a far better unit vs Infestors. But that doesn't excuse the fact that Zerg can make 40+ Infestors and counter everything in the game. At that point not even Ghosts would've saved Bomber.


I agree, ghosts would've been better, but not in the sense the poll suggested - lol why he no make ghost and counter all those infestorz lolz?!?!?!

That being said, bio+bcs+ravens+ghosts is nearly impossible to control efficiently.

In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 26 2012 12:19 GMT
#1749
On June 26 2012 21:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 21:18 Probe1 wrote:
Yeah now for the classic "Wear down your opponent in the second game" strategy.

Pretty standard. I do it all the time on the ladder if I get someone twice in a row

We can all agree on the viability of this.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
IMPrime
Profile Joined September 2011
United States715 Posts
June 26 2012 12:19 GMT
#1750
On June 26 2012 21:17 LimitSEA wrote:
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On June 26 2012 21:16 habeck wrote:
Thats why BLIZZ shouldnt NERFED ghost so hard

Bomber didn't even build Ghosts, so I don't know why you're mentioning the Ghost nerf here. The only mention of Ghosts in reference to this game should be WHY DIDN'T HE MAKE GHOSTS.


i think he means that if ghosts weren't nerfed so hard, bomber would've at least tried to make them.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 26 2012 12:19 GMT
#1751
On June 26 2012 21:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
So I came in after this game was completely random infestor bs. Did bomber go for his sc2 variation of SK terran with MM + lots of ravens?

MMM Ravens into Viking BC into big lead into lose to 40 infestors.
I had a good night of sleep.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3399 Posts
June 26 2012 12:19 GMT
#1752
Just when you think a game will end the "use ravens/battlecruisers" whine you get "use ghosts" whine instead.
I suppose if Bomber build ghosts the answer would be reapers.
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
June 26 2012 12:19 GMT
#1753
if Bomber had started massing vikings when he still had some mining, he could've forced a draw. He was too cocky and just kept building bcs lol..
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CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr
Profile Joined June 2012
544 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 12:20:39
June 26 2012 12:19 GMT
#1754
On June 26 2012 21:16 Azzur wrote:
To those people talking about ghosts - ghosts would stand no chance against infestors


seriously its disgusting to see so many ppl diss on bomber and pretend they understood this game

how many of them have been in that situation in practice seriously. ghosts are bad vs infestors, movement speed is way too much u need scan, emp will never get more than 2/3 infestors and wont remove the energy and while snipe is good it doesnt deal with its

ghosts are good with an army bomber should have turtled until max with few ghosts when he destroyed every base of freaky
but that was still retarded. kill every tech every base 0 mining for zerg less supply bomber mines from 3 bases and it didnt matter
awaiting the return of the space cowboy
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
June 26 2012 12:20 GMT
#1755
On June 26 2012 21:17 Toadvine wrote:
Honestly though, Infestors are a pretty stupid unit. Massing spellcasters should never be viable, much less as good as mass Infestor is.

It's not good against correct response. Have you seen MKP's (demuslim has done this also) mass bio + medivac against infestor ling? The medivacs out-heal the fungal growth and it's really effective. The zerg then needs to include speed banelings (which cuts into infestors, so it's no longer mass infestor) and then the terran has to split well. It's not "herp derp mass infestor -> win" unless the terran plays badly.
sinii
Profile Joined August 2010
England989 Posts
June 26 2012 12:20 GMT
#1756
On June 26 2012 21:18 rothsbury wrote:
People whining about wolf - that gg timing was really fucking late. Just delaying it for viewers, freaky and gom production team for no good reason. Yeah there's "never give in, never surrender" but come the fucking on.


Not giving up could well have been psychological. In which case if Bomber feels it may give him an advantage in game 3 he's well within his rights to draw the game out as long as he likes.

Basically he knows his reasons and he's completely right to do what he thinks will work for him.
habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
June 26 2012 12:20 GMT
#1757
On June 26 2012 21:18 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 21:18 habeck wrote:
On June 26 2012 21:17 nkr wrote:
On June 26 2012 21:16 habeck wrote:
Thats why BLIZZ shouldnt NERFED ghost so hard



??? He never made a ghost, lol


Well, im too tired to explain this to you


I think you can't actually explain it at all.


Why cant I? Why were everybody telling bomber to make ghosts? But he didnt, as he know, that they aren't as good as they used to be. In old times, Terran could mass Ghosts and win, just like Zerg did now with infestors. I wish ghosts werent that useless as they are now in TvZ
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 26 2012 12:20 GMT
#1758
On June 26 2012 21:18 rothsbury wrote:
People whining about wolf - that gg timing was really fucking late. Just delaying it for viewers, freaky and gom production team for no good reason. Yeah there's "never give in, never surrender" but come the fucking on.

I kinda agree. I think he was just collecting his thoughts, but it's oddly common for Terrans to wait until they have a single digit supply count to gg. Kinda ridiculous sometimes.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
June 26 2012 12:20 GMT
#1759
Freaky built 10 lings
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
June 26 2012 12:20 GMT
#1760
On June 26 2012 21:18 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 21:18 habeck wrote:
On June 26 2012 21:17 nkr wrote:
On June 26 2012 21:16 habeck wrote:
Thats why BLIZZ shouldnt NERFED ghost so hard



??? He never made a ghost, lol


Well, im too tired to explain this to you


I think you can't actually explain it at all.

On June 26 2012 21:01 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 20:55 Megiddosc wrote:
Without ghosts Bomber is going to get raped.

Why do terrans not build ghosts?

Because it's the Terran way.

We complain about buffs while refusing to use our nerfed units.


Explained.
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