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On June 26 2012 21:23 SKYFISH_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 21:22 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:20 Dosey wrote:On June 26 2012 21:18 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:18 habeck wrote:On June 26 2012 21:17 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:16 habeck wrote:
Thats why BLIZZ shouldnt NERFED ghost so hard ??? He never made a ghost, lol Well, im too tired to explain this to you I think you can't actually explain it at all. On June 26 2012 21:01 Dosey wrote:On June 26 2012 20:55 Megiddosc wrote:
Without ghosts Bomber is going to get raped.
Why do terrans not build ghosts? Because it's the Terran way. We complain about buffs while refusing to use our nerfed units. Explained. I was actually refering to the fact that he mentioned the ghost nerf in a game when zerg used mass infestors, when all that patch did vs infestor was making snipe 2shot infestors rather than 3shot. That's all that patch did vs infestors.So no, it was not explained. EMP AOE was nerfed ffs.....
That was a patch long before the ghost snipe nerf.
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On June 26 2012 21:21 Seiniyta wrote:
Well, kind of understandable that Wolf got frustrated so much is because Bomber knew he was out. 18 supply against 130 supply, guess what'll win? Bomber knew Freaky had a mining base and Bomber hadn't. It's the last game of the day and the casters are tired.
There are already several posts about caster and player professionalism, continuously questioning why a player doesn't GG for half an hour is what I would consider unprofessional.
The other pair of casters at GOM would quickly transition into their own banter.
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On June 26 2012 21:20 sinii wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 21:18 rothsbury wrote:
People whining about wolf - that gg timing was really fucking late. Just delaying it for viewers, freaky and gom production team for no good reason. Yeah there's "never give in, never surrender" but come the fucking on. Not giving up could well have been psychological. In which case if Bomber feels it may give him an advantage in game 3 he's well within his rights to draw the game out as long as he likes. Basically he knows his reasons and he's completely right to do what he thinks will work for him.
It's still bm if he's prolonging the game purely to get a psychological advantage. It's bm to try and through your opponent off guard by insulting him right? Well so it is to try and throw him off by refusing to give in when you've lost. It's fine to keep fighting if you think you have a chance but not gg'ing just to be a dickhead (essentially) is worse than leaving without gg'ing at all.
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I hope that puts a stop to Bomber's futile raven use.
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On June 26 2012 21:21 Seiniyta wrote:
Well, kind of understandable that Wolf got frustrated so much is because Bomber knew he was out. 18 supply against 130 supply, guess what'll win? Bomber knew Freaky had a mining base and Bomber hadn't. It's the last game of the day and the casters are tired.
18 supply of Battlecruisers would win vs 130 supply of lings =D
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On June 26 2012 21:22 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 21:20 Dosey wrote:On June 26 2012 21:18 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:18 habeck wrote:On June 26 2012 21:17 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:16 habeck wrote:
Thats why BLIZZ shouldnt NERFED ghost so hard ??? He never made a ghost, lol Well, im too tired to explain this to you I think you can't actually explain it at all. On June 26 2012 21:01 Dosey wrote:On June 26 2012 20:55 Megiddosc wrote:
Without ghosts Bomber is going to get raped.
Why do terrans not build ghosts? Because it's the Terran way. We complain about buffs while refusing to use our nerfed units. Explained. I was actually refering to the fact that he mentioned the ghost nerf in a game when zerg used mass infestors, when all that patch did vs infestor was making snipe 2shot infestors rather than 3shot. That's all that patch did vs infestors.So no, it was not explained.
Let's not forget the nerf on EMP radius.
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dApollo would expect it lol
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On June 26 2012 21:23 torm3ntin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 21:22 Thrombozyt wrote:
Actually for a moment I thought that Bomber was saying 'fuck spacebear, I just go for the draw'.
Imagine 40 ravens for PDD all buildings parked in the top left corner and as many vikings as possible.. add in 10 cloaked banshees, +3 air weapon and durable material, what does zerg do? first u gotta find all the minerals for that.
Bomber successfully turtled on 3 bases...
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On June 26 2012 21:23 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 21:23 SKYFISH_ wrote:On June 26 2012 21:22 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:20 Dosey wrote:On June 26 2012 21:18 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:18 habeck wrote:On June 26 2012 21:17 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:16 habeck wrote:
Thats why BLIZZ shouldnt NERFED ghost so hard ??? He never made a ghost, lol Well, im too tired to explain this to you I think you can't actually explain it at all. On June 26 2012 21:01 Dosey wrote:On June 26 2012 20:55 Megiddosc wrote:
Without ghosts Bomber is going to get raped.
Why do terrans not build ghosts? Because it's the Terran way. We complain about buffs while refusing to use our nerfed units. Explained. I was actually refering to the fact that he mentioned the ghost nerf in a game when zerg used mass infestors, when all that patch did vs infestor was making snipe 2shot infestors rather than 3shot. That's all that patch did vs infestors.So no, it was not explained. EMP AOE was nerfed ffs..... That was a patch long before the ghost snipe nerf.
so what? The dude you originally quoted didn't specifically refer to the snipe nerf
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On June 26 2012 21:23 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 21:23 SKYFISH_ wrote:On June 26 2012 21:22 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:20 Dosey wrote:On June 26 2012 21:18 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:18 habeck wrote:On June 26 2012 21:17 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:16 habeck wrote:
Thats why BLIZZ shouldnt NERFED ghost so hard ??? He never made a ghost, lol Well, im too tired to explain this to you I think you can't actually explain it at all. On June 26 2012 21:01 Dosey wrote:On June 26 2012 20:55 Megiddosc wrote:
Without ghosts Bomber is going to get raped.
Why do terrans not build ghosts? Because it's the Terran way. We complain about buffs while refusing to use our nerfed units. Explained. I was actually refering to the fact that he mentioned the ghost nerf in a game when zerg used mass infestors, when all that patch did vs infestor was making snipe 2shot infestors rather than 3shot. That's all that patch did vs infestors.So no, it was not explained. EMP AOE was nerfed ffs..... That was a patch long before the ghost snipe nerf.
and this somehow disproves the fact that it made ghosts less useful as anti-caster unit?
i start to see why the other guy stopped replying to you
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hey guys
guys
there's a game going on
and bomber is going mech
still no ghosts
just sayin'.
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Bomber... why are you using such weird builds?
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Oh man, who did this build on this map and Apollo called it correctly as a mech build as soon as he saw the 4 rax go down?
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also btw the amount of micro required for that kind of army bomber used is completely insane and while he could have preserved more units it is ten times harder for terran to not make mistakes than it is for zerg in that situation
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oo..bomber going mkp style bio mech..or maybe just pure mech
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On June 26 2012 21:24 Nocteo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 21:22 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:20 Dosey wrote:On June 26 2012 21:18 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:18 habeck wrote:On June 26 2012 21:17 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:16 habeck wrote:
Thats why BLIZZ shouldnt NERFED ghost so hard ??? He never made a ghost, lol Well, im too tired to explain this to you I think you can't actually explain it at all. On June 26 2012 21:01 Dosey wrote:On June 26 2012 20:55 Megiddosc wrote:
Without ghosts Bomber is going to get raped.
Why do terrans not build ghosts? Because it's the Terran way. We complain about buffs while refusing to use our nerfed units. Explained. I was actually refering to the fact that he mentioned the ghost nerf in a game when zerg used mass infestors, when all that patch did vs infestor was making snipe 2shot infestors rather than 3shot. That's all that patch did vs infestors.So no, it was not explained. Let's not forget the nerf on EMP radius.
Ok. We didn't forget it. But you know what really really has a small radius?
A noghost.
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On June 26 2012 21:24 Kiyo. wrote:
Oh man, who did this build on this map and Apollo called it correctly as a mech build as soon as he saw the 4 rax go down?
MKP vs Stephano
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On June 26 2012 21:20 rothsbury wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 21:17 Toadvine wrote:
Honestly though, Infestors are a pretty stupid unit. Massing spellcasters should never be viable, much less as good as mass Infestor is. It's not good against correct response. Have you seen MKP's (demuslim has done this also) mass bio + medivac against infestor ling? The medivacs out-heal the fungal growth and it's really effective. The zerg then needs to include speed banelings (which cuts into infestors, so it's no longer mass infestor) and then the terran has to split well. It's not "herp derp mass infestor -> win" unless the terran plays badly.
I'm not saying mass Infestors is optimal, and don't really care about how Zerg matchups play out specifically. Caster units should just never be as versatile and self-sufficient as Infestors, they're supposed to support an army. This is the main reason Ghosts were nerfed, they were too versatile and too good when massed. I really do hope that HotS sees some Infestors nerfs, since they're a really dumb unit right now.
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On June 26 2012 21:24 Fragile51 wrote:
hey guys
guys
there's a game going on
and bomber is going mech
still no ghosts
just sayin'.
bomber goin mech
freaky not goin roaches
bomber probably gonna win.
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On June 26 2012 21:24 SolidMustard wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 21:23 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:23 SKYFISH_ wrote:On June 26 2012 21:22 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:20 Dosey wrote:On June 26 2012 21:18 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:18 habeck wrote:On June 26 2012 21:17 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:16 habeck wrote:
Thats why BLIZZ shouldnt NERFED ghost so hard ??? He never made a ghost, lol Well, im too tired to explain this to you I think you can't actually explain it at all. On June 26 2012 21:01 Dosey wrote:On June 26 2012 20:55 Megiddosc wrote:
Without ghosts Bomber is going to get raped.
Why do terrans not build ghosts? Because it's the Terran way. We complain about buffs while refusing to use our nerfed units. Explained. I was actually refering to the fact that he mentioned the ghost nerf in a game when zerg used mass infestors, when all that patch did vs infestor was making snipe 2shot infestors rather than 3shot. That's all that patch did vs infestors.So no, it was not explained. EMP AOE was nerfed ffs..... That was a patch long before the ghost snipe nerf. so what? The dude you originally quoted didn't specifically refer to the snipe nerf
Not a single terran whined about TvZ when they nerfed EMP. Every terran whined about TvZ when snipe was nerfed. Snipe was buffed against infestors.
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