EPTOn June 18 2012 08:32 Anonymous_Coward wrote:
It's not Dreamhack's fault that Taeja couldn't win his group.
It's not Dreamhack's fault that Taeja couldn't win his group.
Would've been TaeJa vs Ret in that case. Teamkill was inevitable.
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Would've been TaeJa vs Ret in that case. Teamkill was inevitable. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
Could you explain to me what you don't understand? In this system, you can't afford to metagame your opponent. Your strategy will be the same regardless of your position in the series. In GSL, and (I believe, though could be wrong, MLG where it's heads up, then map score) this is not the case. Therefore there is less strategy in the dreamhack system, therefore it is inferior. Why do you disagree? | ||
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TheSilverfox
Sweden1928 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:36 flowSthead wrote: I don't get this bracket. Why is it Group A vs Group B and Group E vs Group F, but Group C vs Group H and Group D vs Group G. For half of the bracket they used groups next to each other and for half of the bracket they didn't. That makes no sense. They draw the Ro16 randomly. | ||
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7331
Israel8 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
He's making perfect sense. He's just saying you can throw in a random build here and there in dual elim group system. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
Naniwa - similar thing. Two PvZs in a row........ Those are my two favourites usually, but now I'll have to root for Mana and Sase my secondary picks. | ||
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Battousai13
United States638 Posts
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Derrida
2885 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:36 flowSthead wrote: I don't get this bracket. Why is it Group A vs Group B and Group E vs Group F, but Group C vs Group H and Group D vs Group G. For half of the bracket they used groups next to each other and for half of the bracket they didn't. That makes no sense. I was thinking the exact same thing... maybe they randomly drew the groups to be matched with each other? (trying to keep a positive view of things here). | ||
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Awesomeness
Germany1361 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:38 Gotuso wrote: Actually the GSL system is way better because it completly removes these kinds of situations. In the GSL groups it's always 100% clear who is going to advance and who is out. As a player you're also never reliant on another competitor, where as in these kind of groups that can happen. For instance, in this case sLivko got to play his last match vs an opponent who was already out, instead of facing Stephano who was also playing for a place in the top 16. But you can only play one game at a time with the GSL-System. (Except for the first 2 games obviously.) That would take way too long at an event like this... | ||
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Sp00ly
United Kingdom1546 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:36 Anonymous_Coward wrote: Only two of those you mention managed to win their group. What do you want Dreamhack to do, intervene and set up the bracket based upon what they think will be better, and ignore the group stage? If they didn't want to be on the "stacked" side of the bracket, they should have won their group. Well if they had filled in the bracket in a different order it could be way more balanced whilst keeping the winner vs 2nd place set up. As it stands I'm going to call a HerO-Sase final. | ||
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Kazeshini
Germany166 Posts
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:33 Ammanas wrote: I still don't understand why aren't all the tournaments with group stages using GSL format groups, rather than round robin. In that format it can never happen that player only loses once and is eliminated... Because the GSL-group system is unfair. Example. Player A is God and beats everyone. Player B is horrible and loses to everyone. Player C and Player D are exactly the same. C and D goes 1-1 (2-1, 1-2) against each other. The guy drawing player B advances and never faces player A. | ||
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Chenz
Sweden1197 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:38 Inhumane wrote: Why is it A vs. B and E vs. F but not C vs. D and G vs. H? I'm 90% sure it's being drawn randomly, one 1st place from a group vs one 2nd place. That's what they always done at earlier events, and what they did for each of the different group stages. | ||
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polyphonyEX
United States2539 Posts
stephano > keen Nerchio > Bratok Hero> Taeja Cytoplsm > Mana Naniwa> Slivka dimaga> Protosser Sase > ret Harstem > Fraer Stephano > Nerchio Hero> Cytoplasm Naniwa> dimaga sase> frae stephano > Hero Sase > Naniwa Sase > Stephano | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:38 Anonymous_Coward wrote: The bracket was decided in advance, winner of group x, plays runner up of group y, and so on. Stop with your bullshit conspiracy theories, people. Is that so? Was the information public? | ||
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Domus
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flowSthead
1065 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:37 Awesomeness wrote: It's a random draw, which actually is the fairest way to do it. But it is only partly random draw. It's random draw for groups, not for players. That means that people do not have to face the same person they played previously in their group. It's.... bizarre. | ||
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amazingoopah
United States1925 Posts
Sase vs Hero finals please. | ||
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Rhaegar_tar
France847 Posts
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