EPTDreamhack Summer [Day 2] - Page 291
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m0ck
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:31 DifuntO wrote: Oh the bracket is so bad... Literally the worst bracket I've ever seen... Guess there's a good chance of a Korean vs Foriegner final tho... unless Stephano takes out Keen and whichever Liquidian advances. On the plus side, the odds are pretty good of a swede in the finals. | ||
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Derrida
2885 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:34 Zeborg wrote: Yeah but it's Hero's fault for going 3-0. Hero would have had an easier bracket if he hadn't dominated as much. Well, it just shows that he plays to win and doesn't really care about easy brackets which make me respect him more. | ||
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Drmooose
United States390 Posts
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Hnnngg
United States1101 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:31 00Visor wrote: Funny that no one complains about single elimination tournies Bo3. One tough draw, one lost series, you are out. Groupstage is more fair, but these tiebreakers happen. Where are the single elimination tournies bo3? You should be more specific brah. Harstem loses to Qxc, Bly, and Mana and gets to ro16. Huk loses to Stephano and is out. I'd like to think that isn't fair. | ||
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sansalvador
Austria308 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:33 Ammanas wrote: I still don't understand why aren't all the tournaments with group stages using GSL format groups, rather than round robin. In that format it can never happen that player only loses once and is eliminated... Because GSL is not a 3 day 128 player tournament. There is a reason GSL seasons take 2 months, not three days. | ||
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darkest44
United States1009 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:31 Hnnngg wrote: I'm saying this isn't enough to get an accurate enough measurement of "worthiness" or "skill" to advance to ro16. The difference between 2-1 and 2-0 is so negligible except in a situation like this where it's your tournament life on the line. SC2 gameplay is too high in variance for this to be acceptable. What is wrong with fanboys these days? Jesus. Wtf else do you want? "Sc2 gameplay is too high variance" rofl, so DH has to solve this alleged problem how? Make everyone play a best of 99 to make sure the "variance" is minimized? Make them play a playoff at 1am in the morning, changing the rules everyone else lived with, cause you think its unfair your favorite is out? It's a weekend tournament, everyone plays by the same rules, just cause your favorite losses suddenly you whiners call it not fair. | ||
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JayJay_90
Germany1632 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:32 TheDougler wrote: It's not a great system it takes a lot of strategy out of each series. In a GSL group, due to winner's and loser's matches, you can play way more mind games. Do you go for two standard games or do you cheese? If you're up 1-0 in your BO3 you can do a risky build to try to close it out easily. In the dreamhack system you HAVE to try to 2-0 every match, 2-1 is (as we see right here) not an option. So people will do the build they feel most comfortable with. Remember Nestea's spine crawler rush that worked in GSL a few months ago? Or the failed one he tried earlier this week? Neither of those would EVER happen in this tournament because it's just not worth the risk of being eliminated. You don't have to 2-0 every match. There is no way you don't go through if you win 2-1 every game. And I don't really get why you think it would be a good thing to have a format that encourages cheesing/gambling/risky stuff. | ||
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
and oh, thats where the 2 fan fav sweed's are ....... | ||
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Mackus
England1681 Posts
A TvZ specialist followed by a ZvZ specialist in Nerchio, only way it could of been worse was HerO instead of Keen.. | ||
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Nosferatos
Norway783 Posts
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polyphonyEX
United States2539 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:34 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: god damn it quoting for good truth | ||
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Anonymous_Coward
United Kingdom1347 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:34 OzVelas wrote: hero keen taeja nerchio stephano are in the same bracket, what a joke Only two of those you mention managed to win their group. What do you want Dreamhack to do, intervene and set up the bracket based upon what they think will be better, and ignore the group stage? If they didn't want to be on the "stacked" side of the bracket, they should have won their group. | ||
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bikefrog
Norway451 Posts
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halvorg
Norway717 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:33 Ammanas wrote: I still don't understand why aren't all the tournaments with group stages using GSL format groups, rather than round robin. In that format it can never happen that player only loses once and is eliminated... Surely you can see the cons aswell? Every matchup is not always played in GSL, it is like a ro4 bracket with dual elim, not a group. | ||
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Skyline026
Netherlands1129 Posts
These brackets are bullshit. | ||
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Awesomeness
Germany1361 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:34 Zeborg wrote: Yeah but it's Hero's fault for going 3-0. Hero would have had an easier bracket if he hadn't dominated as much. You know what a draw is, right?... | ||
bennyaus
Australia1833 Posts
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flowSthead
1065 Posts
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Korelle
143 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:34 OzVelas wrote: hero keen taeja nerchio stephano are in the same bracket, what a joke What's wrong with that? It guarantees a foreigner will be in the final. Which means a higher number of people will be tuning in! Win/Win for e-sports. | ||
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