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Skyline026
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands1129 Posts
June 17 2012 23:33 GMT
#5781
HerO vs Taeja is so fucked up.
Liquid'Ret - Mana - Liquid'Dota fighting!
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
June 17 2012 23:33 GMT
#5782
Well, a Naniwa/SaSe vs Stephano/Nerchio seems pretty likely to me.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
June 17 2012 23:33 GMT
#5783
If Sase remains consistent around his MLG performance I expect a Sase vs. Taeja/Stephano finals Massively fucked up upper half bracket hahah.
#1 Grubby Fan.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
June 17 2012 23:33 GMT
#5784
On June 18 2012 08:30 aspo wrote:
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On June 18 2012 08:23 TheShadower wrote:
Terrible situation for Huk.

You go 8-1 in your matches, only losing to Stephano, and you get eliminated. Dumb.


Seems like no one is getting his point, he's just saying that considering his tournament record this is dumb. He is criticizing the format, he can do simple math just as well as others do.


I don't see it as bad format that 5-2 (2-1) and 5-3 (2-1) beats out 4-4 (2-1) in a group stage.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
June 17 2012 23:33 GMT
#5785
I still don't understand why aren't all the tournaments with group stages using GSL format groups, rather than round robin. In that format it can never happen that player only loses once and is eliminated...
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 23:34:42
June 17 2012 23:34 GMT
#5786
Those brackets are horrible for Stephano Keen is great vZ and Nerchio is a ZvZ specialist.

Also not that great for Liquid fans - Taeja and HerO will face each other in the Ro16 and one is going to go out.

Naniwa and SaSe are on the same side of the bracket and are not able to make the grand finals together.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
June 17 2012 23:34 GMT
#5787
On June 18 2012 08:32 TheDougler wrote:
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On June 18 2012 08:25 disinfect wrote:
On June 18 2012 08:23 Crushinator wrote:
Ouch, Huk out despite going 2-1. That has to hurt, and is a very unfortunate thing about this system


It's a great system. It always sucks to lose.


It's not a great system it takes a lot of strategy out of each series.

In a GSL group, due to winner's and loser's matches, you can play way more mind games. Do you go for two standard games or do you cheese? If you're up 1-0 in your BO3 you can do a risky build to try to close it out easily.

In the dreamhack system you HAVE to try to 2-0 every match, 2-1 is (as we see right here) not an option. So people will do the build they feel most comfortable with. Remember Nestea's spine crawler rush that worked in GSL a few months ago? Or the failed one he tried earlier this week? Neither of those would EVER happen in this tournament because it's just not worth the risk of being eliminated.

You're making zero sense
Zheega
Profile Joined June 2011
Slovenia180 Posts
June 17 2012 23:34 GMT
#5788
Hero vs Stephano possible soon
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
June 17 2012 23:34 GMT
#5789
My God. All the EG hate, relax nerds, lol.

I wonder if HerO will be able to continue his dominating performance (18-0 currently), he does have to face TaeJa next round which will be a real test and unfortunate team kill. Other than that the Play-Off bracket is looking very interesting. Keen vs Stephano, NaNiwa vs sLivko, ret vs SaSe, Nerchio vs BratOK. I think Ret probably in the best position to take the bottom half the bracket, and HerO/TaeJa could potentially take the top half. The potential story lines are amazing: potential HerO repeat, potential HerO undefeated run, potential Liquid Final, etc.
OzVelas
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria516 Posts
June 17 2012 23:34 GMT
#5790
hero keen taeja nerchio stephano are in the same bracket, what a joke
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
June 17 2012 23:34 GMT
#5791
On June 18 2012 08:33 sc2superfan101 wrote:
keen v stephano gonna be a good match


Keen TvZ is nothing special.
Stephano will probably crush the guy. :/
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
June 17 2012 23:34 GMT
#5792
On June 18 2012 08:32 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 08:25 disinfect wrote:
On June 18 2012 08:23 Crushinator wrote:
Ouch, Huk out despite going 2-1. That has to hurt, and is a very unfortunate thing about this system


It's a great system. It always sucks to lose.


It's not a great system it takes a lot of strategy out of each series.

In a GSL group, due to winner's and loser's matches, you can play way more mind games. Do you go for two standard games or do you cheese? If you're up 1-0 in your BO3 you can do a risky build to try to close it out easily.

In the dreamhack system you HAVE to try to 2-0 every match, 2-1 is (as we see right here) not an option. So people will do the build they feel most comfortable with. Remember Nestea's spine crawler rush that worked in GSL a few months ago? Or the failed one he tried earlier this week? Neither of those would EVER happen in this tournament because it's just not worth the risk of being eliminated.


It has pluses and minuses. The obvious advantage is players have to do play their best, so it's perhaps a win-win scenario for spectators.
Zeborg
Profile Joined November 2010
107 Posts
June 17 2012 23:34 GMT
#5793
On June 18 2012 08:32 Anonymous_Coward wrote:
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On June 18 2012 08:31 Magashi wrote:
hero vs taeja first round. gg dreamhack



It's not Dreamhack's fault that Taeja couldn't win his group.


Yeah but it's Hero's fault for going 3-0. Hero would have had an easier bracket if he hadn't dominated as much.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
June 17 2012 23:34 GMT
#5794
Hero vs Taeja fuuuuuuuu
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
June 17 2012 23:34 GMT
#5795
On June 18 2012 08:32 halvorg wrote:
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On June 18 2012 08:28 Sp00ly wrote:
On June 18 2012 08:26 Traven wrote:
On June 18 2012 08:24 darkness wrote:
On June 18 2012 08:22 Qikz wrote:
EG Curse strikes again >_<


Well, they kind of have stupid policy. Only buying players isn't enough. Don't get me wrong, but they need to focus on improving instead of buying as much as they can.

Holy hell. HuK got knocked out after going 8-1 in matches the whole tournament yet this talk is brought up after he loses. It is bad luck of this type of system. It is kind of sad to see that some of the players have advanced with worse match scores.


Yeah I love how Huk does better than Thorzain and yet nobody is shitting on him. Inconsistent haters are the worst.


What a silly thing to say.

Huk haters are most certainly consistent in hating huk : )


I was more referencing the EG hate all that "they only buy players and dont train them" crap.
Chicodog
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark154 Posts
June 17 2012 23:34 GMT
#5796
On June 18 2012 08:30 Aando wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 08:29 CaptObvious wrote:
bracket for ro16 is already out
http://dhopen.binarybeast.com/xSC212060810

Damn, that's an unbalanced bracket!


Looks like either Naniwa or SaSe will make the finals.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
June 17 2012 23:34 GMT
#5797
god damn it
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oniman999
Profile Joined May 2011
United States169 Posts
June 17 2012 23:35 GMT
#5798
That bracket... not a single person other than Naniwa, Sase, or Ret is going to interest me if they make it to the finals. The other individuals are all good obviously to have made it this far in the tournament, but none of them stand out as Dreamhack finalist.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
June 17 2012 23:35 GMT
#5799
Terrible bracket for Stephano => Keen, Nerchio, Hero/Taeja
Lower bracket will probably have Naniwa or Sase. Nice for the Swedes though.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
June 17 2012 23:35 GMT
#5800
On June 18 2012 08:31 monkybone wrote:
Does the matches start at 2pm CEST sharp or are they delayed ?

maybe, maybe not, no one knows.
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