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On June 17 2012 18:51 qazadex wrote: Wait, why is series only on game 3? Dragon was 1-0 up like two hours ago.
Quite a long 2nd game and 3rd game resulted in a draw causing a regame.
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On June 17 2012 18:43 Asha` wrote: Buildings should lose X health per second after > 1min of floating. What nonsense is this. And Zerg shouldn't be allowed to make buildings for 25 minerals after they have no other buildings left, to even things out? This stuff is just game mechanics races are not the same and as an opponent you have to be smart and for example make a single corruptor when you're losing all your stuff.
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there are a million games going on and both streams streaming the same game....
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On June 17 2012 18:51 qazadex wrote: Wait, why is series only on game 3? Dragon was 1-0 up like two hours ago.
55min draw on game 3
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On June 17 2012 18:46 Mosquitow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 18:43 Daray wrote:On June 17 2012 18:40 JJH777 wrote:On June 17 2012 18:39 sleepingdog wrote:On June 17 2012 18:38 PoP wrote:On June 17 2012 18:36 elbooN wrote:On June 17 2012 18:36 [17]Purple wrote:On June 17 2012 18:35 mememolly wrote:On June 17 2012 18:34 elbooN wrote: dragon realized it was a draw after apollo said that... sigh yeah, I don't think he realised I think Dragon could tell that there were no AA Air units after his buildings. He literally did not float his buildings anywhere until apollo said it. No he did it when he had no chance to win anymore. Dragon didn't know how many ressources Cyto had - there was still the very slight possibility that Cyto had banked 250 for a hatch and didn't want to spend it until all of Dragon's production was gone. I realize that's like 0,00001% possible, but still. Well, first world problem here, I think we will be able to get over it. If that was the case then Cyto would have just said no to the draw.... You guys are being ridiculous. There is no way Dragon didn't realize he could force a draw. 0% chance. Well why the fuck did he not just fly _a_ building to the edge of the map earlier and not wait until the last second? Why risk it at all? 0% chance cmon man  * Because he was still trying to produce units with the mules and his command center ? Did you actually watch the game?
Did you? Did you see how many barracks he had and how few marines he was making at a time at the end?
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On June 17 2012 18:50 Jojo131 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 18:48 Misoza wrote: Bah, just tuning in now, sounds like I missed some e-drama!
Can someone briefly give me a run-down of the previous draw game? Cyto without hatches, relying on extractors and superior army to stay alive, no mutas/corruptors. People are blaming Apollo for suggesting a draw because apparently they think after 5000+ ladder games Dragon is too stupid to realize that he can just fly buildings and cause a draw.
This. Also, people fail to realize Dragon has floated buildings to the corner on HIS OWN STREAM many times.
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On June 17 2012 18:48 PoP wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 18:44 I_Love_Bacon wrote:On June 17 2012 18:42 PoP wrote:On June 17 2012 18:39 Waxangel wrote: I'm glad you can read his mind
the point is caster should never even POSSIBLY affect the game like that I can't read his mind, you can't either. No way to know what he would've done. You think he didn't realize Cyto had no AA after all this time, I think he did. And yeah Apollo should've not done this, definitely not. Just think it didn't matter at all here. We know what he ALMOST did. He almost lost all of his buildings. Do you realize how close it was? If those infestors had been 1 screen closer, dragon might have lost. It isn't like he made an easy escape. Didn't he have tons of buildings at bottom left when the game actually ended? Like 5 or 6 at least. That's plenty enough to escape a couple infested terrans. Fact is Apollo sent the message when Dragon had no chance anymore. That's when Dragon floated his buildings towards the corner, because he had no chance to make any units anymore.
There were 5 buildings but 2 of them started burning and 2 others were at 50% life(not sure about last but think 80% life) it was very close and 10 infested terrans do alot dmg....
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I really, really do not understand both streams casting this game.
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On June 17 2012 18:47 NGrNecris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 18:46 Bergys wrote:On June 17 2012 18:41 Type|NarutO wrote:On June 17 2012 18:39 Deathmanbob wrote:On June 17 2012 18:38 Daray wrote: Spectators should NEVER say anything that might impact the results of a game, even if the chances are like .0001% terran should NEVER be allowed to force a draw like that. I get the whole race mechanic i just really hate when they win draw out a game they should lose because of it In theory you could have 8 sentries and 1 pylon at a ramp and Terran with 200/200 bio but no mining/minerals could never beat you because of forcefields. Would that be imbalanced as well? Its not like Cyto did play a draw here because Terran buildings can fly, but because he failed to keep 3(?) hatcheries alive, with a superior army.... and mapcontrol. I do think it would be bad mannered to keep force-fielding your ramp if your opponent had a 200/200 army. It's different though imo. Its bad mannered to take advantage of your race's mechanics to win? Why do people even play this game
To win? Please tell me how you win with 8 sentries versus 200/200. Imo it's the same thing as forcing a re-game in a situation where you know you had lost but both players lost connection. F.ex. 200/200 5-base versus your 30/40 supply 1-base just about to get smashed, and then both players lose connection.
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On June 17 2012 18:50 I_Love_Bacon wrote: No, and the fact that you think that really makes me question how closely you were watching. Dragon was left with 2... maaaaybe 3 buildings that were not healthy. The others that he had floated were burning.
Wasn't watching too closely the last few seconds. Didn't notice it was that close. But anyway, point closed.
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On June 17 2012 18:53 Psyclon wrote: Cyto is dead.
NOPE!
xD
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On June 17 2012 18:51 qazadex wrote: Wait, why is series only on game 3? Dragon was 1-0 up like two hours ago.
The seconnd game was about 40 min and the third about 56m min, ending in a draw.
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On June 17 2012 18:52 DrakeFZX3 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 18:50 Jojo131 wrote:On June 17 2012 18:48 Misoza wrote: Bah, just tuning in now, sounds like I missed some e-drama!
Can someone briefly give me a run-down of the previous draw game? Cyto without hatches, relying on extractors and superior army to stay alive, no mutas/corruptors. People are blaming Apollo for suggesting a draw because apparently they think after 5000+ ladder games Dragon is too stupid to realize that he can just fly buildings and cause a draw. This. Also, people fail to realize Dragon has floated buildings to the corner on HIS OWN STREAM many times. Maybe there's a chance he'd forget about it. If he doesn't that's fine. There should still be no outside influences. People make many stupid decisions in tournaments.
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That could have gone so much better for Dragon.
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On June 17 2012 18:50 Jojo131 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 18:48 Misoza wrote: Bah, just tuning in now, sounds like I missed some e-drama!
Can someone briefly give me a run-down of the previous draw game? Cyto without hatches, relying on extractors and superior army to stay alive, no mutas/corruptors. People are blaming Apollo for suggesting a draw because apparently they think after 5000+ ladder games Dragon is too stupid to realize that he can just fly buildings and cause a draw.
Thanks mate.
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On June 17 2012 18:52 DrakeFZX3 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 18:50 Jojo131 wrote:On June 17 2012 18:48 Misoza wrote: Bah, just tuning in now, sounds like I missed some e-drama!
Can someone briefly give me a run-down of the previous draw game? Cyto without hatches, relying on extractors and superior army to stay alive, no mutas/corruptors. People are blaming Apollo for suggesting a draw because apparently they think after 5000+ ladder games Dragon is too stupid to realize that he can just fly buildings and cause a draw. This. Also, people fail to realize Dragon has floated buildings to the corner on HIS OWN STREAM many times. The game indicated nothing about Dragon realizing this. There were buildings that had zero use yet he wasn't floating them yet. It shouldn't have been suggested until it was clear they were actually playing for the draw. The buildings were all landed and Cyto had units to kill them, period.
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On June 17 2012 18:52 DrakeFZX3 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 18:50 Jojo131 wrote:On June 17 2012 18:48 Misoza wrote: Bah, just tuning in now, sounds like I missed some e-drama!
Can someone briefly give me a run-down of the previous draw game? Cyto without hatches, relying on extractors and superior army to stay alive, no mutas/corruptors. People are blaming Apollo for suggesting a draw because apparently they think after 5000+ ladder games Dragon is too stupid to realize that he can just fly buildings and cause a draw. This. Also, people fail to realize Dragon has floated buildings to the corner on HIS OWN STREAM many times.
And I've seen IdrA beat protoss on his stream. Just because somebody is capable of making the proper play doesn't mean they always will... that game, if anything, should be evidence of that.
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