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DBHErazor
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden181 Posts
June 17 2012 19:50 GMT
#4121
DreamHack really is the best out there tbh, so many games, super quality streams, good games, sweet ass casting etc etc
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
June 17 2012 19:51 GMT
#4122
On June 18 2012 04:49 InMotion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 04:43 Chenz wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:41 InMotion wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:41 -TesteR- wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:39 jmbthirteen wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:38 Logros wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:36 SupLilSon wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:30 Logros wrote:
Problem Koreans?


lol? The field of Korean players at DH is pretty lackluster. Most of the better players are in Korea focusing on Code S.

Ah so after the fabled jetlag now the Koreans are just bad.

what he said isn't wrong. DH doesn't have any of the top tier Koreans.


Similarly when Koreans dominate in other tournaments, there aren't many top tier foreigners.


Like MLG right? trolol

He's right though, there aren't many top Europeans at MLG. And there's literally one North American that can compete with most Europeans (Huk) on a regular basis.


So Stephano and SaSe aren't top europeans? Arguably top 5?

He said foreigners, not europeans, so his comment was stupid. I never said NA players were good lol


And Ret to mention another top European
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Keidy
Profile Joined June 2009
253 Posts
June 17 2012 19:51 GMT
#4123
On June 18 2012 04:45 hifriend wrote:
Hope stephano can beat Huk because morrow is going to crush him TvZ.


Not in a million years will Morrow beat Stephano TvZ
SilentSC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United States505 Posts
June 17 2012 19:51 GMT
#4124
On June 18 2012 04:47 L3g3nd_ wrote:
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On June 18 2012 04:29 SilentSC2 wrote:
I hope a Korean can still win. But it's looking good for Europe/HuK.

TT/ idk. Depends on which foreigner wins.

i dunno i think stephano has a really good chance. theres not many terran left, and he isnt gonna lose ZvP


Not saying Stephano doesn't have a really good chance. I don't really like Stephano so I don't want him to win.

And I did the TT/ because i'll be happy if a Ret/HuK/a Korean wins and pretty sad if say Stephano wins just because I don't really like him. But you're completely right, Stephano probably has the best chance to win.

Btw i'm not saying Stephano is a bad player at all, he's the best foreigner out there. Last time I posted something like this everyone thought that I think Stephano is terrible player or something.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
June 17 2012 19:51 GMT
#4125
On June 18 2012 04:46 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 04:45 hifriend wrote:
Hope stephano can beat Huk because morrow is going to crush him TvZ.


? The biggest treat to Stephano are Slivko by miles

Morrows TvZ looked super strong in the last few weeks and stephano played kind of bad vs puma. I think morrow has a good chance today. Slivko I have absolutely no idea about.
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
June 17 2012 19:51 GMT
#4126
On June 18 2012 04:49 InMotion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 04:43 Chenz wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:41 InMotion wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:41 -TesteR- wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:39 jmbthirteen wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:38 Logros wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:36 SupLilSon wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:30 Logros wrote:
Problem Koreans?


lol? The field of Korean players at DH is pretty lackluster. Most of the better players are in Korea focusing on Code S.

Ah so after the fabled jetlag now the Koreans are just bad.

what he said isn't wrong. DH doesn't have any of the top tier Koreans.


Similarly when Koreans dominate in other tournaments, there aren't many top tier foreigners.


Like MLG right? trolol

He's right though, there aren't many top Europeans at MLG. And there's literally one North American that can compete with most Europeans (Huk) on a regular basis.


So Stephano and SaSe aren't top europeans? Arguably top 5?

He said foreigners, not europeans, so his comment was stupid. I never said NA players were good lol


They are, which is why they made it farther than most of the koreans at MLG.

Also, Europeans = foreigners.
Chenz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1197 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 19:54:06
June 17 2012 19:52 GMT
#4127
On June 18 2012 04:49 InMotion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 04:43 Chenz wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:41 InMotion wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:41 -TesteR- wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:39 jmbthirteen wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:38 Logros wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:36 SupLilSon wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:30 Logros wrote:
Problem Koreans?


lol? The field of Korean players at DH is pretty lackluster. Most of the better players are in Korea focusing on Code S.

Ah so after the fabled jetlag now the Koreans are just bad.

what he said isn't wrong. DH doesn't have any of the top tier Koreans.


Similarly when Koreans dominate in other tournaments, there aren't many top tier foreigners.


Like MLG right? trolol

He's right though, there aren't many top Europeans at MLG. And there's literally one North American that can compete with most Europeans (Huk) on a regular basis.


So Stephano and SaSe aren't top europeans? Arguably top 5?

He said foreigners, not europeans, so his comment was stupid. I never said NA players were good lol

Again, there's one North American that can be counted among the top foreigners. There were like 4-5 top foreigners at MLG, compared to what, 20 Koreans?

The thing is, the EU player field got quite a lot of depth, similar to the Korean scene. Sure, there's few foreigners that can compete with the best Koreans, but there's a lot more that can compete with Code A and lower Code S class players.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
June 17 2012 19:52 GMT
#4128
On June 18 2012 04:51 YourGoodFriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 04:49 InMotion wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:43 Chenz wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:41 InMotion wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:41 -TesteR- wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:39 jmbthirteen wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:38 Logros wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:36 SupLilSon wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:30 Logros wrote:
Problem Koreans?


lol? The field of Korean players at DH is pretty lackluster. Most of the better players are in Korea focusing on Code S.

Ah so after the fabled jetlag now the Koreans are just bad.

what he said isn't wrong. DH doesn't have any of the top tier Koreans.


Similarly when Koreans dominate in other tournaments, there aren't many top tier foreigners.


Like MLG right? trolol

He's right though, there aren't many top Europeans at MLG. And there's literally one North American that can compete with most Europeans (Huk) on a regular basis.


So Stephano and SaSe aren't top europeans? Arguably top 5?

He said foreigners, not europeans, so his comment was stupid. I never said NA players were good lol


And Ret to mention another top European


Socke also? Socke is one of the most impressive and consistent EU players when facing Koreans.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
June 17 2012 19:52 GMT
#4129
On June 18 2012 04:47 Elvedeta wrote:
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On June 18 2012 04:44 HotGlueGun wrote:
Does Taeja have strong TvP? I can't seem to remember any games he played recently vs P.


One of his last PvT was in the Redbull lan, where he lost 2-0 to SaSe, but he did defeat CreatorPrime 5-3 in
IPL fight club.


Like most well-rounded mid-Code S Terrans, Taeja's TvP goes in swings. He can win against really good Protoss players and lose just as easily. I'd compare him to SuperNova or Maru.
jakoh
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada237 Posts
June 17 2012 19:53 GMT
#4130
People actually think foreigners would be able to go toe to toe in a tournament with MMA, MKP, DRG, MVP, Nestea, MC, Leenock. Symbol, Hero, Squirtle, Curious, Parting, because Puma, Jyp, and dragon go knocked out? Am I getting this right? I can see stephano and nani doing good, but most of them would get stomped. And even stephano and nani would be beaten by the top tier koreans. MMA vs Stephano G2 at IPL was THE most one sided game I ever saw(manner mule, mule forcefields, manner nukes, manner sensor towers). Foreigners are good and upsets usually do happen, but lets not say foreigners are just as good as Koreans.
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
June 17 2012 19:53 GMT
#4131
On June 18 2012 04:51 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 04:46 Benjamin99 wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:45 hifriend wrote:
Hope stephano can beat Huk because morrow is going to crush him TvZ.


? The biggest treat to Stephano are Slivko by miles

Morrows TvZ looked super strong in the last few weeks and stephano played kind of bad vs puma. I think morrow has a good chance today. Slivko I have absolutely no idea about.


So Morrow, who has won nothing and done nothing, looked kinda good, and Stephano who played bad vs Puma (but still won 2-0), so you concluded...?
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
June 17 2012 19:53 GMT
#4132
On June 18 2012 00:42 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 00:40 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Surprinsingly enough, i don't see Naniwa making it out of this group...LiveZerg has shown some good shit in this tourney so far, Adel is unpredictable and Keen will utterly destroy him.


Keen will destroy him? I thoroughly doubt that. Nani will beat Keen.


GG son 2-0!!! As long as Nani doesn't face zergs he has a good chance to win this.
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
ScienceRob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States382 Posts
June 17 2012 19:53 GMT
#4133
Predictions:

(P)SaSe
(T)TaeJa
(P)HerO
(Z)Ret
(P)HuK
(Z)Stephano
(T)ThorZaIN
(Z)Nerchio
Carpe Diem
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
June 17 2012 19:53 GMT
#4134
On June 18 2012 04:53 jakoh wrote:
People actually think foreigners would be able to go toe to toe in a tournament with MMA, MKP, DRG, MVP, Nestea, MC, Leenock. Symbol, Hero, Squirtle, Curious, Parting, because Puma, Jyp, and dragon go knocked out? Am I getting this right? I can see stephano and nani doing good, but most of them would get stomped. And even stephano and nani would be beaten by the top tier koreans. MMA vs Stephano G2 at IPL was THE most one sided game I ever saw(manner mule, mule forcefields, manner nukes, manner sensor towers). Foreigners are good and upsets usually do happen, but lets not say foreigners are just as good as Koreans.


Take it you didn't watch RedBull LAN where Stephano beat Squirtle and Parting 3-1 and 2-0 respectively... stop cherry picking games to support your assumptions.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
June 17 2012 19:55 GMT
#4135
On June 18 2012 04:53 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 04:51 hifriend wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:46 Benjamin99 wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:45 hifriend wrote:
Hope stephano can beat Huk because morrow is going to crush him TvZ.


? The biggest treat to Stephano are Slivko by miles

Morrows TvZ looked super strong in the last few weeks and stephano played kind of bad vs puma. I think morrow has a good chance today. Slivko I have absolutely no idea about.


So Morrow, who has won nothing and done nothing, looked kinda good, and Stephano who played bad vs Puma (but still won 2-0), so you concluded...?

Yeah based on the play I've seen. His ZvP is god aweful but even then I don't think the results reflect his level of play, and same goes for stephano really.
jakoh
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada237 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 19:57:03
June 17 2012 19:55 GMT
#4136
On June 18 2012 04:53 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 04:53 jakoh wrote:
People actually think foreigners would be able to go toe to toe in a tournament with MMA, MKP, DRG, MVP, Nestea, MC, Leenock. Symbol, Hero, Squirtle, Curious, Parting, because Puma, Jyp, and dragon go knocked out? Am I getting this right? I can see stephano and nani doing good, but most of them would get stomped. And even stephano and nani would be beaten by the top tier koreans. MMA vs Stephano G2 at IPL was THE most one sided game I ever saw(manner mule, mule forcefields, manner nukes, manner sensor towers). Foreigners are good and upsets usually do happen, but lets not say foreigners are just as good as Koreans.


Take it you didn't watch RedBull LAN where Stephano beat Squirtle and Parting 3-1 and 2-0 respectively... stop cherry picking games to support your assumptions.

I did, which is why I said I can see Stephano doing good. Read my post again.
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
June 17 2012 19:55 GMT
#4137
On June 18 2012 04:52 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 04:51 YourGoodFriend wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:49 InMotion wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:43 Chenz wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:41 InMotion wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:41 -TesteR- wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:39 jmbthirteen wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:38 Logros wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:36 SupLilSon wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:30 Logros wrote:
Problem Koreans?


lol? The field of Korean players at DH is pretty lackluster. Most of the better players are in Korea focusing on Code S.

Ah so after the fabled jetlag now the Koreans are just bad.

what he said isn't wrong. DH doesn't have any of the top tier Koreans.


Similarly when Koreans dominate in other tournaments, there aren't many top tier foreigners.


Like MLG right? trolol

He's right though, there aren't many top Europeans at MLG. And there's literally one North American that can compete with most Europeans (Huk) on a regular basis.


So Stephano and SaSe aren't top europeans? Arguably top 5?

He said foreigners, not europeans, so his comment was stupid. I never said NA players were good lol


And Ret to mention another top European


Socke also? Socke is one of the most impressive and consistent EU players when facing Koreans.


And yet, Socke is not even at DH!
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
June 17 2012 19:56 GMT
#4138
On June 18 2012 04:53 jakoh wrote:
People actually think foreigners would be able to go toe to toe in a tournament with MMA, MKP, DRG, MVP, Nestea, MC, Leenock. Symbol, Hero, Squirtle, Curious, Parting, because Puma, Jyp, and dragon go knocked out? Am I getting this right? I can see stephano and nani doing good, but most of them would get stomped. And even stephano and nani would be beaten by the top tier koreans. MMA vs Stephano G2 at IPL was THE most one sided game I ever saw(manner mule, mule forcefields, manner nukes, manner sensor towers). Foreigners are good and upsets usually do happen, but lets not say foreigners are just as good as Koreans.


Did you not watch MLG?

If Grubby, Thorzain, Sase, Socke etc can beat some of those guys, a lot of other Europeans will also be able to do that (and have done it). Not consistently but they have a chance against most of them.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
June 17 2012 19:56 GMT
#4139
On June 18 2012 04:53 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 04:53 jakoh wrote:
People actually think foreigners would be able to go toe to toe in a tournament with MMA, MKP, DRG, MVP, Nestea, MC, Leenock. Symbol, Hero, Squirtle, Curious, Parting, because Puma, Jyp, and dragon go knocked out? Am I getting this right? I can see stephano and nani doing good, but most of them would get stomped. And even stephano and nani would be beaten by the top tier koreans. MMA vs Stephano G2 at IPL was THE most one sided game I ever saw(manner mule, mule forcefields, manner nukes, manner sensor towers). Foreigners are good and upsets usually do happen, but lets not say foreigners are just as good as Koreans.


Take it you didn't watch RedBull LAN where Stephano beat Squirtle and Parting 3-1 and 2-0 respectively... stop cherry picking games to support your assumptions.

And MLG with Sase 4th and Stephano 5th/6th.
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
June 17 2012 19:57 GMT
#4140
On June 18 2012 04:55 jakoh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 04:53 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:53 jakoh wrote:
People actually think foreigners would be able to go toe to toe in a tournament with MMA, MKP, DRG, MVP, Nestea, MC, Leenock. Symbol, Hero, Squirtle, Curious, Parting, because Puma, Jyp, and dragon go knocked out? Am I getting this right? I can see stephano and nani doing good, but most of them would get stomped. And even stephano and nani would be beaten by the top tier koreans. MMA vs Stephano G2 at IPL was THE most one sided game I ever saw(manner mule, mule forcefields, manner nukes, manner sensor towers). Foreigners are good and upsets usually do happen, but lets not say foreigners are just as good as Koreans.


Take it you didn't watch RedBull LAN where Stephano beat Squirtle and Parting 3-1 and 2-0 respectively... stop cherry picking games to support your assumptions.

I did, which is why I said I can Stephano doing good. Read my post again.


Yeah I read your post again. I read the line where you said "even Nani and Stephano would be beaten by top tier koreans" which I can only assume is trolling being as Naniwa made it into ro16 Code S for a second consecutive time and Stephano has been rolling top Korean's for the last 9 months... stop talking utter crap.
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