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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 17 2012 19:57 GMT
#4141
How did PuMa lose to Cytoplasm? Jävla terran ^__^
The Bomber boy
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
June 17 2012 19:57 GMT
#4142
On June 18 2012 04:53 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 04:53 jakoh wrote:
People actually think foreigners would be able to go toe to toe in a tournament with MMA, MKP, DRG, MVP, Nestea, MC, Leenock. Symbol, Hero, Squirtle, Curious, Parting, because Puma, Jyp, and dragon go knocked out? Am I getting this right? I can see stephano and nani doing good, but most of them would get stomped. And even stephano and nani would be beaten by the top tier koreans. MMA vs Stephano G2 at IPL was THE most one sided game I ever saw(manner mule, mule forcefields, manner nukes, manner sensor towers). Foreigners are good and upsets usually do happen, but lets not say foreigners are just as good as Koreans.


Take it you didn't watch RedBull LAN where Stephano beat Squirtle and Parting 3-1 and 2-0 respectively... stop cherry picking games to support your assumptions.


Oh the hypocrisy. Talk about cherry picking lolol. Stephano and NaNi are the only 2 foreigners there who have shown they can semi-consistently compete with that tier of player and vie for the top spots at tournaments when they are competing. ZvP happens to be Stephano's strongest MU also. Pretty fail.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
June 17 2012 19:57 GMT
#4143
On June 18 2012 04:53 jakoh wrote:
People actually think foreigners would be able to go toe to toe in a tournament with MMA, MKP, DRG, MVP, Nestea, MC, Leenock. Symbol, Hero, Squirtle, Curious, Parting, because Puma, Jyp, and dragon go knocked out? Am I getting this right? I can see stephano and nani doing good, but most of them would get stomped. And even stephano and nani would be beaten by the top tier koreans. MMA vs Stephano G2 at IPL was THE most one sided game I ever saw(manner mule, mule forcefields, manner nukes, manner sensor towers). Foreigners are good and upsets usually do happen, but lets not say foreigners are just as good as Koreans.


Goody vs MMA G2 at MLG was one of the more one sided stomps in recent memory also.






In goody's favour.
Picking one game to make youR point is kind of lame. Stephano has beaten so many top Korean players and always places well in any tourney he enters
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 19:59:26
June 17 2012 19:59 GMT
#4144
On June 18 2012 04:57 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 04:55 jakoh wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:53 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:53 jakoh wrote:
People actually think foreigners would be able to go toe to toe in a tournament with MMA, MKP, DRG, MVP, Nestea, MC, Leenock. Symbol, Hero, Squirtle, Curious, Parting, because Puma, Jyp, and dragon go knocked out? Am I getting this right? I can see stephano and nani doing good, but most of them would get stomped. And even stephano and nani would be beaten by the top tier koreans. MMA vs Stephano G2 at IPL was THE most one sided game I ever saw(manner mule, mule forcefields, manner nukes, manner sensor towers). Foreigners are good and upsets usually do happen, but lets not say foreigners are just as good as Koreans.


Take it you didn't watch RedBull LAN where Stephano beat Squirtle and Parting 3-1 and 2-0 respectively... stop cherry picking games to support your assumptions.

I did, which is why I said I can Stephano doing good. Read my post again.


Yeah I read your post again. I read the line where you said "even Nani and Stephano would be beaten by top tier koreans" which I can only assume is trolling being as Naniwa made it into ro16 Code S for a second consecutive time and Stephano has been rolling top Korean's for the last 9 months... stop talking utter crap.

.. that doesn't mean Nani didn't lose to Koreans. That means he won enough to move on. This discussion is weak.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
FatBat
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany326 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 20:00:33
June 17 2012 20:00 GMT
#4145
cantina band on stream b :D
And the whole starwars soundtrack as it seems
"This game went full retard"- Totalbiscuit
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
June 17 2012 20:00 GMT
#4146
On June 18 2012 04:59 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 04:57 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:55 jakoh wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:53 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:53 jakoh wrote:
People actually think foreigners would be able to go toe to toe in a tournament with MMA, MKP, DRG, MVP, Nestea, MC, Leenock. Symbol, Hero, Squirtle, Curious, Parting, because Puma, Jyp, and dragon go knocked out? Am I getting this right? I can see stephano and nani doing good, but most of them would get stomped. And even stephano and nani would be beaten by the top tier koreans. MMA vs Stephano G2 at IPL was THE most one sided game I ever saw(manner mule, mule forcefields, manner nukes, manner sensor towers). Foreigners are good and upsets usually do happen, but lets not say foreigners are just as good as Koreans.


Take it you didn't watch RedBull LAN where Stephano beat Squirtle and Parting 3-1 and 2-0 respectively... stop cherry picking games to support your assumptions.

I did, which is why I said I can Stephano doing good. Read my post again.


Yeah I read your post again. I read the line where you said "even Nani and Stephano would be beaten by top tier koreans" which I can only assume is trolling being as Naniwa made it into ro16 Code S for a second consecutive time and Stephano has been rolling top Korean's for the last 9 months... stop talking utter crap.

.. that doesn't mean Nani didn't lose to Koreans. That means he won enough to move on. This discussion is weak.


HEY! YOU! Get your logic and sound thinking out of here.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 17 2012 20:00 GMT
#4147
i think we all know there are MORE absolute top level koreans than absolute top level foreigners (which equals europeans and potentially sen, sorry north americans). whether the top koreans are better than the top foreigners depends on individual matchup between players and races and their current shape moreso than anything else and is pretty much impossible to judge, so i'm not sure what the discussion is here.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
June 17 2012 20:00 GMT
#4148
That may be the first time in a major tournament in SC2 where in a group with 2 Koreans neither of them advance.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
June 17 2012 20:01 GMT
#4149
On June 18 2012 05:00 TheDougler wrote:
That may be the first time in a major tournament in SC2 where in a group with 2 Koreans neither of them advance.


I think Jinro and Idra advanced from some GSL group a long time ago.
CrayonSc2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States267 Posts
June 17 2012 20:01 GMT
#4150
On June 18 2012 04:53 jakoh wrote:
People actually think foreigners would be able to go toe to toe in a tournament with MMA, MKP, DRG, MVP, Nestea, MC, Leenock. Symbol, Hero, Squirtle, Curious, Parting, because Puma, Jyp, and dragon go knocked out? Am I getting this right? I can see stephano and nani doing good, but most of them would get stomped. And even stephano and nani would be beaten by the top tier koreans. MMA vs Stephano G2 at IPL was THE most one sided game I ever saw(manner mule, mule forcefields, manner nukes, manner sensor towers). Foreigners are good and upsets usually do happen, but lets not say foreigners are just as good as Koreans.


yea but your being a hypocrite cause you said "toe to toe" and use stephano as an example which is stupid because he does go toe to toe with them. he has beating mma, mkp, drg, mc, hero, puma, and jyp. you see one series and you count him out. it's like saying you see a series of stephano stomping on jyp and saing jyp doesnt stand toe to toe with these guys. please stop.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 17 2012 20:02 GMT
#4151
On June 18 2012 05:00 TheDougler wrote:
That may be the first time in a major tournament in SC2 where in a group with 2 Koreans neither of them advance.

Yup, I'm trying to remember if it has happened before.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Tendoi
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania62 Posts
June 17 2012 20:02 GMT
#4152
On June 18 2012 04:53 jakoh wrote:
MMA vs Stephano G2 at IPL was THE most one sided game I ever saw(manner mule, mule forcefields, manner nukes, manner sensor towers)


MMA vs Stephano G2 at IPL was, I believe, the game in which MMA realized he had to play really well to beat Stephano. From what I remember, Stephano took game 1. That and MMA's TvZ is his best match-up, he was dropping 4 places at once and because Stephano doesn't prepare for opponents, he was caught with his pants down.
I sleep more than koreans practice.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 20:04:02
June 17 2012 20:02 GMT
#4153
On June 18 2012 05:00 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 04:59 Probe1 wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:57 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:55 jakoh wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:53 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 18 2012 04:53 jakoh wrote:
People actually think foreigners would be able to go toe to toe in a tournament with MMA, MKP, DRG, MVP, Nestea, MC, Leenock. Symbol, Hero, Squirtle, Curious, Parting, because Puma, Jyp, and dragon go knocked out? Am I getting this right? I can see stephano and nani doing good, but most of them would get stomped. And even stephano and nani would be beaten by the top tier koreans. MMA vs Stephano G2 at IPL was THE most one sided game I ever saw(manner mule, mule forcefields, manner nukes, manner sensor towers). Foreigners are good and upsets usually do happen, but lets not say foreigners are just as good as Koreans.


Take it you didn't watch RedBull LAN where Stephano beat Squirtle and Parting 3-1 and 2-0 respectively... stop cherry picking games to support your assumptions.

I did, which is why I said I can Stephano doing good. Read my post again.


Yeah I read your post again. I read the line where you said "even Nani and Stephano would be beaten by top tier koreans" which I can only assume is trolling being as Naniwa made it into ro16 Code S for a second consecutive time and Stephano has been rolling top Korean's for the last 9 months... stop talking utter crap.

.. that doesn't mean Nani didn't lose to Koreans. That means he won enough to move on. This discussion is weak.


HEY! YOU! Get your logic and sound thinking out of here.

You're absolutely right.

LOL KOREANS WILL BEAT ANYONE ANYTIME ANYWHERE BECAUSE OF THIS GAME [insert 1 to 3 series to represent an entire career of a player, then use that player to represent an entire group of players]

Just kidding, FOREIGNER WILL DOMINATE KOREAN! [insert 1 to 3 series to represent an entire career of a player, then use that player to represent an entire group of players]

Cheers, have fun with this enthralling discussion of ifs and theoretical what nots.

But seriously, Huk 화이팅 !
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 20:03:56
June 17 2012 20:03 GMT
#4154
Someone needs to do a Continental showmatch in the style of the GOMTV Korea vs the World showmatch of the past.

8 player teams - Best of 15. Korea vs Europe vs The Americas vs Everyone else.

Thats a 32 man MLG arena I would pay to watch, there booking for everyones flights already after all.

][Primarch][
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden302 Posts
June 17 2012 20:03 GMT
#4155
Abput the few terrans still left in this:

Gotta say that I'm surprised to see Brat_ok and Keen make it through! Good job! Looking at Puma's group it was a little bit to tough for him. Cyto's ZvT is really solid and vs Fraer the only korean terran I would bet on would be MKP and Polt. Fraer is a PvT monster. Going to be really interesting to see if Thorzain and Taeja can get out of their groups. I would not bet on it.

Huge fan of Empire Kas, The Destroyer of Worlds, The Machine, The Second Terminator, The Supreme Robot!
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
June 17 2012 20:04 GMT
#4156
On June 18 2012 05:02 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 05:00 TheDougler wrote:
That may be the first time in a major tournament in SC2 where in a group with 2 Koreans neither of them advance.

Yup, I'm trying to remember if it has happened before.


GSL January r32.

Jinro and Idra advance

Ensnare and Check are eliminated
BadBinky
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland649 Posts
June 17 2012 20:05 GMT
#4157
Rapha is on The GD Couch! <3
It's more important to be tough than to have any fun.
Sky_
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada116 Posts
June 17 2012 20:05 GMT
#4158
On June 18 2012 05:02 Tendoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 04:53 jakoh wrote:
MMA vs Stephano G2 at IPL was THE most one sided game I ever saw(manner mule, mule forcefields, manner nukes, manner sensor towers)


MMA vs Stephano G2 at IPL was, I believe, the game in which MMA realized he had to play really well to beat Stephano. From what I remember, Stephano took game 1. That and MMA's TvZ is his best match-up, he was dropping 4 places at once and because Stephano doesn't prepare for opponents, he was caught with his pants down.


MMA actually took game 1 and game 2.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 17 2012 20:05 GMT
#4159
On June 18 2012 05:04 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 05:02 MCDayC wrote:
On June 18 2012 05:00 TheDougler wrote:
That may be the first time in a major tournament in SC2 where in a group with 2 Koreans neither of them advance.

Yup, I'm trying to remember if it has happened before.


GSL January r32.

Jinro and Idra advance

Ensnare and Check are eliminated

Well done, good recall. I miss Jinro being amazing.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
June 17 2012 20:05 GMT
#4160
SaSe vs White-Ra in PvP could be really fun! Both of them can put up some unordinary strategies in PvP.
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