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On June 18 2012 01:44 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 01:43 sdecker32 wrote:On June 18 2012 01:41 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 18 2012 01:40 Swords wrote:On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games. Hahaha! You're still whining about Naniwa cheesing the guy who bunker rushed two games in a row because it was the only way he could possibly beat Squirtle in the GSL. Also, if Keen were good he would've held that 4 gate after getting 3 bunkers, he was greedy as shit and he blew it. (Note: I do realize Keen is very good) Except MVP can and does go toe to toe with anyone in a macro game, he uses cheese strategically. Naniwa just blind all in's in 80% of his games vs good players. When he does the same to Stephano later on you kids will be whining like crazy. Do you even watch Naniwas games? or just dislike him? He dislikes all players who aren't Korean. and praises all who are, including dragon lol
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You can't really take many of these posts seriously..
This thread is congested with bias.
Ragers that hate Naniwa so they criticize his all-in, Terran players defending base floating for draws, etc.
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On June 18 2012 01:40 FakeDeath wrote: Nothing much to say really. Game 1: 2 base collosus all-in Game 2: 4 Gate All-in against triple orbital plus teching Keen
No idea why the casters say the games are great.
how often u see terran sniping 2 nexus, almost forcing draw
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I can't wait till Tournaments implement NR15 into their map pools
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On June 18 2012 01:45 Lasbike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 01:44 TheSir wrote:On June 18 2012 01:42 Lasbike wrote: I love 2GD stream i wonder why, a girl showing her ass and getting slapped live on camera on a esport festival...... thats a new one probably What girl ? I only see 2GD tbh :p
you missed it then, check the vods later
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On June 18 2012 01:45 Chrill wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 01:43 eourcs wrote:On June 18 2012 01:42 Chrill wrote:On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games. Eh, have you watched Nani play? He is more than capable beating Keen in macro games. That's why he decided to do a 2base allin on a map that favors protoss, and then another allin the following game. There can be several reasons he chose all ins. Maybe he's tired and want the day to be over, maybe he thinks Keen is weak against cheese or he just doesnt respect keen enough and thinks he's just much better. (I dont think it's the latter). Naniwa is a great macro player. I think the majority of his GSL wins for example are around the 20-25 minute mark. So stop hatin and educate yourself.
hahaha don't make me laugh.
Most of his GSL wins are PvP's for god's sake.
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Harstems match history says its 0:1, why does the overlay say otherwise?
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What is it with e-sports, especially sc2, that just crates these ultra polarizing figures. Destiny, Idra, Naniwa. I have never seen so much moronic abitrary flaming as in pretty much any LR thread, where any of those three play.
I actually think it adds to the experience. Atleast most of these guys really care about their heroes (including me, Im a Nani fanboy, and I will spew shit in the face of any idra fan)
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On June 18 2012 01:42 Chrill wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games. Eh, have you watched Nani play? He is more than capable beating Keen in macro games.
Ignore him.
Both today and yesterdays threads were filled with his constant whining about every facet of this dreamhack so far.
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On June 18 2012 01:42 Sandermatt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 01:40 FakeDeath wrote: Nothing much to say really. Game 1: 2 base collosus all-in Game 2: 4 Gate All-in against triple orbital plus teching Keen
No idea why the casters say the games are great. Game 1: Nearly a draw, a lot of tension over a long time if it will become a draw or not. Closes possible win for naniwa. one mineral trip less and the Game is drawn.Game 2: Keen fakes macro, but cheeses, then Naniwa fakes macro but cheeses. Then Keen does macro while Naniwa only fakes macro and in fact cheeses and wins the game.
Game 1: Keen fucked that game hard. Had he kept his 3 vikings with his barracks at the bottom.He would have drawn that game.
Game 2: Keen tried to fake expo but went for 3 rax aggression. Naniwa did the same fake expo and went 4 gate. Keen expanded. Naniwa proceed to blind 4 gate all-in Keen who was playing greedy triple orbital with factory tech.
Naniwa plays to win and i respect that but i hate when casters says the games are fucking great when it is not.
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On June 18 2012 01:43 Snusmumriken wrote: When naniwa loses in gsl hes a shitty protoss who only knows lategame. When naniwa wins with early/midgame agression hes a shitty protoss who only knows all-ins. Consistency much?
Sad but standard these days, best to ignore them, they enjoy arguing. After they make the inevitable "lol all in noob" post they perch on their chair hovering over their keyboard desperately hitting F5 silently begging for someone to respond.
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On June 18 2012 01:46 OtoshimonoU wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 01:45 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On June 18 2012 01:43 Derrida wrote: Looking at the current groups, there are 5 groups out of 8 that have 3 of the same race in them. This means 3 of a certain matchup, and 3 mirror matches in a group.
I'm wondering what would everyone think about at least having 1 race of each in the groups to make it a better viewing experience for the spectators. I can't think of any side effects of this. Well, only 5T (with 13P and 14Z) make it through the ro32 so mass mirrors can't be avoided 5Terrans...
Ro128
48 Protoss 30 Terrans 45 Zergs
only natural for the higher represented races to end up with a higher representation as the tournament goes on
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Can someone please make an alternate LR thread without all the whining about so called cheese and whether or not Naniwa would beat Stephano... so fucking tired of the bullshit in here.
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On June 18 2012 01:46 emraaa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 01:44 Azarkon wrote:On June 18 2012 01:43 sdecker32 wrote:On June 18 2012 01:41 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 18 2012 01:40 Swords wrote:On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games. Hahaha! You're still whining about Naniwa cheesing the guy who bunker rushed two games in a row because it was the only way he could possibly beat Squirtle in the GSL. Also, if Keen were good he would've held that 4 gate after getting 3 bunkers, he was greedy as shit and he blew it. (Note: I do realize Keen is very good) Except MVP can and does go toe to toe with anyone in a macro game, he uses cheese strategically. Naniwa just blind all in's in 80% of his games vs good players. When he does the same to Stephano later on you kids will be whining like crazy. Do you even watch Naniwas games? or just dislike him? He dislikes all players who aren't Korean. and praises all who are, including dragon lol
Dragon is awful.
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On June 18 2012 01:43 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 01:42 Scootaloo wrote:On June 18 2012 01:38 SeaSwift wrote: That was hilarious. Why the fuck did Keen take 2 extra Command Centers after holding off a 4gate? Utterly moronic. Because it's an MKP build, I believe often called the "eco-cheese", if he was gonna do it he shoulda scouted better for a prolonged attack. Just another silly thing you can do when you're buildings fly, an ability that Keen seems to be in love with. He should have scanned Naniwa's natural after holding off the pressure. Also, stop with the passive aggressive bullshit. Keen floated buildings to try and force a draw. Naniwa all-ined two games in a row. Neither are things this community likes.
I said he shoulda scouted, no reason why you repeat me.
Also it's not passive agressive, Keen was just playing shit tier that game with his floating buildings, lost it way before and could'nt do shit to get back in, shoulda done a proper gg instead of wasting 15 minutes of everyones time.
All inning might have it's bias but wasting time is IMO a far greater crime, as unlike cheesing, it benefits noone.
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Apparently Mana won the first PvZ in his group! :O Unheard of. Unfortunately Bly was put in his group, and I don't see him winning that one. I hope he beats Harstem, who is already losing to Bly as is... so I guess it is looking good for Bly and Mana. :D
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On June 18 2012 01:46 emraaa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 01:44 Azarkon wrote:On June 18 2012 01:43 sdecker32 wrote:On June 18 2012 01:41 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 18 2012 01:40 Swords wrote:On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games. Hahaha! You're still whining about Naniwa cheesing the guy who bunker rushed two games in a row because it was the only way he could possibly beat Squirtle in the GSL. Also, if Keen were good he would've held that 4 gate after getting 3 bunkers, he was greedy as shit and he blew it. (Note: I do realize Keen is very good) Except MVP can and does go toe to toe with anyone in a macro game, he uses cheese strategically. Naniwa just blind all in's in 80% of his games vs good players. When he does the same to Stephano later on you kids will be whining like crazy. Do you even watch Naniwas games? or just dislike him? He dislikes all players who aren't Korean. and praises all who are, including dragon lol Lol what's wrong with praising Dragon?
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ugh foreigner ZvZ so boring.
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On June 18 2012 01:44 TheSir wrote:i wonder why, a girl showing her ass and getting slapped live on camera on a esport festival...... thats a new one probably What? I missed that.
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