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Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 16:45:13
June 17 2012 16:44 GMT
#2781
On June 18 2012 01:32 Zzoram wrote:
any way to watch lower than 720p? my internet can't handle it, dunno why they force 720p mid-tournament


same here, pisses meoff.. was watching fine before with 360 lol


EDTI: nevermind seems to be back to normal... lol
Live and Let Die!
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 16:46:28
June 17 2012 16:44 GMT
#2782
On June 18 2012 01:39 LimitSEA wrote:
3 bunkers getting busted by a 4 gate, then another two at the top of the ramp. Played pretty greedily, but still. I feel a little dirty just watching that. z.z

All of the people here criticizing Naniwa would've lost 100% if they were in that same position. People here don't understand just how perfect that execution of the attack was on Keen's fortified position (and the mindgames before that).
ScaringKids
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal819 Posts
June 17 2012 16:44 GMT
#2783
On June 18 2012 01:41 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:40 Swords wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games.


Hahaha! You're still whining about Naniwa cheesing the guy who bunker rushed two games in a row because it was the only way he could possibly beat Squirtle in the GSL.

Also, if Keen were good he would've held that 4 gate after getting 3 bunkers, he was greedy as shit and he blew it.

(Note: I do realize Keen is very good)


Except MVP can and does go toe to toe with anyone in a macro game, he uses cheese strategically.

Naniwa just blind all in's in 80% of his games vs good players.

When he does the same to Stephano later on you kids will be whining like crazy.


hahaha u mad. "cheese strategically" and "blind all inn" just deal with it, players play to win not to entertain us.
MC | NesTea | Jaedong | PartinG | Liquid'HerO | MvP | Flash | White-Ra | Polt | Squirtle |
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33554 Posts
June 17 2012 16:45 GMT
#2784
Bly vs Harstem on Imba.tv
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
June 17 2012 16:45 GMT
#2785
On June 18 2012 01:44 TheSir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:42 Lasbike wrote:
I love 2GD stream


i wonder why, a girl showing her ass and getting slapped live on camera on a esport festival...... thats a new one probably

What girl ? I only see 2GD tbh :p
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
June 17 2012 16:45 GMT
#2786
On June 18 2012 01:43 Derrida wrote:
Looking at the current groups, there are 5 groups out of 8 that have 3 of the same race in them. This means 3 of a certain matchup, and 3 mirror matches in a group.

I'm wondering what would everyone think about at least having 1 race of each in the groups to make it a better viewing experience for the spectators. I can't think of any side effects of this.


Well, only 5T (with 13P and 14Z) make it through the ro32 so mass mirrors can't be avoided
Terran & Potato Salad.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 17 2012 16:45 GMT
#2787
Harstem vs bly starting on imba.tv.
Glorious SEA doto
sdecker32
Profile Joined April 2011
United States38 Posts
June 17 2012 16:45 GMT
#2788
When a korean pulls off a hard cheese or a super shrp all-in we are like, that's what koreans are able to do that put their game ahead, we see this in the GSL all the time. But when it's a player you don't like you cal it cheese. Early MC played a lot of long games right?
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
June 17 2012 16:45 GMT
#2789
Why there's a gold level 4 gater playing in dreamhack group stage 3.....

+ Show Spoiler +
jk wp by nani
Chrill
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden91 Posts
June 17 2012 16:45 GMT
#2790
On June 18 2012 01:43 eourcs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:42 Chrill wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games.


Eh, have you watched Nani play? He is more than capable beating Keen in macro games.

That's why he decided to do a 2base allin on a map that favors protoss, and then another allin the following game.



There can be several reasons he chose all ins. Maybe he's tired and want the day to be over, maybe he thinks Keen is weak against cheese or he just doesnt respect keen enough and thinks he's just much better. (I dont think it's the latter). Naniwa is a great macro player. I think the majority of his GSL wins for example are around the 20-25 minute mark. So stop hatin and educate yourself.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
June 17 2012 16:45 GMT
#2791
On June 18 2012 01:43 Snusmumriken wrote:
When naniwa loses in gsl hes a shitty protoss who only knows lategame. When naniwa wins with early/midgame agression hes a shitty protoss who only knows all-ins. Consistency much?


It works both ways with fans. When naniwa loses to cheese from MVP, there was so much crying from Naniwa fans. But when he wins with cheese, it is his mindgame and micro. Fans will always be bias.
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
June 17 2012 16:45 GMT
#2792
Bly just won the first game against Harstem in a 41min PvZ...
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
June 17 2012 16:45 GMT
#2793
On June 18 2012 01:44 SCST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:41 SeaSwift wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:38 pak150 wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:37 Dosey wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:34 mememolly wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:33 Dosey wrote:
Methinks naniwa can hear the casters


I was wondering that

Just seems odd... The troll hallucination and smiley face. The way he instantly reacted after they said keen was cheesing.

iono gaizzzz

Yeah I agree -- that was a bit weird. They should fix that after this set


Yeah, it certainly seemed weird to me. Keen couldn't see the Stargate, the only reason to do that smiley face was to the viewers, and it looked pretty suspicious. I'm not normally the one to call cheating, but it was a very suspicious circumstance, especially considering he did exactly what the casters were recommending.


If there was any way to hear the casters etc then other competitors, especially naniwa would have brought it up to DH by now. You know how anal these guys are about cheating or losing an advantage. Unless you're suggesting a massive foreigner conspiracy of course where everyone knows about it and doesn't say anything, in which case you're psychotic and should be committed.

In addition, if Naniwa was cheating, would he be stupid enough to communicate with the audience during a match? Lol the rationale for some of these arguments . . .


Naniwa's the player who watched the replay after the Nestea disconnect.

Don't pretend he's an honest player.
decerto
Profile Joined November 2011
244 Posts
June 17 2012 16:45 GMT
#2794
On June 18 2012 01:42 IAMPRO wrote:
I like 99% of SC2 pros, i despise naniwa. I shouldn't be such a hater but he is such a tool I don't understand how he has fans. Great player though.


You just answered your own question, some people are fans of his play and dont care about drama and personalities in esports and some people like his play to win attitude
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
June 17 2012 16:45 GMT
#2795
On June 18 2012 01:43 sdecker32 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:41 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:40 Swords wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games.


Hahaha! You're still whining about Naniwa cheesing the guy who bunker rushed two games in a row because it was the only way he could possibly beat Squirtle in the GSL.

Also, if Keen were good he would've held that 4 gate after getting 3 bunkers, he was greedy as shit and he blew it.

(Note: I do realize Keen is very good)


Except MVP can and does go toe to toe with anyone in a macro game, he uses cheese strategically.

Naniwa just blind all in's in 80% of his games vs good players.

When he does the same to Stephano later on you kids will be whining like crazy.


Do you even watch Naniwas games? or just dislike him?


Obviously he just doesn't like him and is insanely biased because the accusation of all-inning '80% of his games vs good players' is demonstrably bullshit. It simply is not the case.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
June 17 2012 16:45 GMT
#2796
On June 18 2012 01:44 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:42 IAMPRO wrote:
I like 99% of SC2 pros, i despise naniwa. I shouldn't be such a hater but he is such a tool I don't understand how he has fans. Great player though.


He has fans because he's a great player.

He made me a fan when I saw how last year his determination to get 1st and his utter disappointment in himself when he gets anything less.


I used to like him, but he has said and done a lot of assholery (some of which I have seen first-hand, some of which I have heard from other people in the scene), which he can get away with because he's a foreigner and everyone loves foreigners.
OtoshimonoU
Profile Joined December 2011
United States509 Posts
June 17 2012 16:46 GMT
#2797
On June 18 2012 01:45 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:43 Derrida wrote:
Looking at the current groups, there are 5 groups out of 8 that have 3 of the same race in them. This means 3 of a certain matchup, and 3 mirror matches in a group.

I'm wondering what would everyone think about at least having 1 race of each in the groups to make it a better viewing experience for the spectators. I can't think of any side effects of this.


Well, only 5T (with 13P and 14Z) make it through the ro32 so mass mirrors can't be avoided


5Terrans...
God Young ho
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
June 17 2012 16:46 GMT
#2798
On June 18 2012 01:45 Waxangel wrote:
Bly vs Harstem on Imba.tv


thnx for the notice!
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
June 17 2012 16:46 GMT
#2799
On June 18 2012 01:43 Willba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:41 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:40 Swords wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games.


Hahaha! You're still whining about Naniwa cheesing the guy who bunker rushed two games in a row because it was the only way he could possibly beat Squirtle in the GSL.

Also, if Keen were good he would've held that 4 gate after getting 3 bunkers, he was greedy as shit and he blew it.

(Note: I do realize Keen is very good)


Except MVP can and does go toe to toe with anyone in a macro game, he uses cheese strategically.

Naniwa just blind all in's in 80% of his games vs good players.

When he does the same to Stephano later on you kids will be whining like crazy.


You are perhaps one of the worst posters I have seen in a LR thread, and thats saying something..


Not really LR threads are full of trash.

Don't join in the debates and add to the problem, just sit back enjoy the stream and laugh at all the butthurt going on at the end of games.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
June 17 2012 16:46 GMT
#2800
On June 18 2012 01:45 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:43 Snusmumriken wrote:
When naniwa loses in gsl hes a shitty protoss who only knows lategame. When naniwa wins with early/midgame agression hes a shitty protoss who only knows all-ins. Consistency much?


It works both ways with fans. When naniwa loses to cheese from MVP, there was so much crying from Naniwa fans. But when he wins with cheese, it is his mindgame and micro. Fans will always be bias.


And that is the double truth, ruth.
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