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kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
June 17 2012 16:41 GMT
#2741
On June 18 2012 01:40 teddyoojo wrote:
so, i heard terran early game is supposed to be strong?


no clue where you heard this, but it's wrong
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
June 17 2012 16:41 GMT
#2742
Glorious execution Naniwa.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
June 17 2012 16:41 GMT
#2743
On June 18 2012 01:39 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:37 tenacity wrote:
absolute superb attack by naniwa WOW


You mean absolute greed from Keen.
What in hell made him think it was ok to make a 3rd Orbital in that situation when he was being pressured possibly all-ined, blows my mind.

Keen handed that game to Naniwa.


What's worse was that he was making it while Naniwa was tearing down the rocks. Did he really expect Naniwa to help him expand easier?
sdecker32
Profile Joined April 2011
United States38 Posts
June 17 2012 16:41 GMT
#2744
Nani was in a terrible position, and he made something out of it. It helped that keen threw down a 3rd CC, but he had no info, and thats pretty standard for terran right now. He did have 3 bunkers down, and nani managed to throw down perfect non standard FFs to win him the game. GG Nani, we played well.
Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
June 17 2012 16:41 GMT
#2745
Puma lost against Fraer 0-2? Wtf?
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
June 17 2012 16:41 GMT
#2746
On June 18 2012 01:40 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games.


Hahaha! You're still whining about Naniwa cheesing the guy who bunker rushed two games in a row because it was the only way he could possibly beat Squirtle in the GSL.

Also, if Keen were good he would've held that 4 gate after getting 3 bunkers, he was greedy as shit and he blew it.

(Note: I do realize Keen is very good)

Oh lol I didn't realize that was Keen that did that to Squirtle. Makes all the all-in whiners even more ironic haha :D.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
June 17 2012 16:41 GMT
#2747
What?
Two 2GDs on the GD couch. oO
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 16:42:40
June 17 2012 16:41 GMT
#2748
On June 18 2012 01:40 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games.


Hahaha! You're still whining about Naniwa cheesing the guy who bunker rushed two games in a row because it was the only way he could possibly beat Squirtle in the GSL.

Also, if Keen were good he would've held that 4 gate after getting 3 bunkers, he was greedy as shit and he blew it.

(Note: I do realize Keen is very good)


Except MVP can and does go toe to toe with anyone in a macro game, he uses cheese strategically.

Naniwa just blind all in's in 80% of his games vs good players.

When he does the same to Stephano later on you kids will be whining like crazy.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
June 17 2012 16:41 GMT
#2749
--- Nuked ---
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 17 2012 16:41 GMT
#2750
On June 18 2012 01:40 Breach_hu wrote:
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On June 18 2012 01:38 Tsubbi wrote:
why would keen build a 3rd cc when hes already economically ahead and just needs to play it out safely, just bad decision making


mb he thought naniwa expoed behind his pressure?


That's the type of situation where you use a scan instead of a mule to play safer. Many players still like to take risks like that, just for a mule.
Anonymous_Coward
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom1347 Posts
June 17 2012 16:41 GMT
#2751
On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games.



Those three racks was clearly Keen preparing for a macro game, right? He went for early aggression and had it turned right back at him.
Scootaloo
Profile Joined January 2012
655 Posts
June 17 2012 16:42 GMT
#2752
On June 18 2012 01:38 SeaSwift wrote:
That was hilarious. Why the fuck did Keen take 2 extra Command Centers after holding off a 4gate? Utterly moronic.


Because it's an MKP build, I believe often called the "eco-cheese", if he was gonna do it he shoulda scouted better for a prolonged attack.
Just another silly thing you can do when you're buildings fly, an ability that Keen seems to be in love with.
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
June 17 2012 16:42 GMT
#2753
people here are fucking ridiculous. Player-bias > everything right? Especially if you hate the player.
Amove for Aiur
Chrill
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden91 Posts
June 17 2012 16:42 GMT
#2754
On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games.


Eh, have you watched Nani play? He is more than capable beating Keen in macro games.
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
June 17 2012 16:42 GMT
#2755
On June 18 2012 01:40 FakeDeath wrote:
Nothing much to say really.
Game 1: 2 base collosus all-in
Game 2: 4 Gate All-in against triple orbital plus teching Keen

No idea why the casters say the games are great.


Game 1: Nearly a draw, a lot of tension over a long time if it will become a draw or not. Closes possible win for naniwa. one mineral trip less and the Game is drawn.

Game 2: Keen fakes macro, but cheeses, then Naniwa fakes macro but cheeses. Then Keen does macro while Naniwa only fakes macro and in fact cheeses and wins the game.
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
June 17 2012 16:42 GMT
#2756
I kind of expected Keen's sneaky shenanigans to backfire against Naniwa, who's a very straightforward player. You won't see Naniwa do any 1 Colossus fake into Templar shenanigans that got Sase killed in his game against Keen. These two games were essentially risky play being punished.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
IAMPRO
Profile Joined November 2011
Afghanistan118 Posts
June 17 2012 16:42 GMT
#2757
I like 99% of SC2 pros, i despise naniwa. I shouldn't be such a hater but he is such a tool I don't understand how he has fans. Great player though.
SuHoSin - we'll never forget your genius
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
June 17 2012 16:42 GMT
#2758
On June 18 2012 01:40 paintfive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games.


dude, Keen was planning to bitbybit in the first palce. and 4gate isnt even cheese


lol, I don't mine people cheesing since it is a valid strategy. But if 4 gate isn't cheese, then 11/11 proxy wouldn't be cheese either...
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
June 17 2012 16:42 GMT
#2759
I love 2GD stream
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
June 17 2012 16:42 GMT
#2760
Someone who floats his buildings around the map should've known an all in was coming for him next game
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