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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
June 17 2012 16:43 GMT
#2761
Aeroplaneoverthesea must be raging so hard right now.
eourcs
Profile Joined February 2011
United States459 Posts
June 17 2012 16:43 GMT
#2762
On June 18 2012 01:42 Chrill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games.


Eh, have you watched Nani play? He is more than capable beating Keen in macro games.

That's why he decided to do a 2base allin on a map that favors protoss, and then another allin the following game.
Masters Terran | Strelok after losing to Kas' BCs "FUUUUUCK" *Stream Offline* | "Fuck hellions. Fuck them in the ass" IdrA
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
June 17 2012 16:43 GMT
#2763
Looking at the current groups, there are 5 groups out of 8 that have 3 of the same race in them. This means 3 of a certain matchup, and 3 mirror matches in a group.

I'm wondering what would everyone think about at least having 1 race of each in the groups to make it a better viewing experience for the spectators. I can't think of any side effects of this.
#1 Grubby Fan.
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
June 17 2012 16:43 GMT
#2764
When naniwa loses in gsl hes a shitty protoss who only knows lategame. When naniwa wins with early/midgame agression hes a shitty protoss who only knows all-ins. Consistency much?
Amove for Aiur
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
June 17 2012 16:43 GMT
#2765
On June 18 2012 01:40 FakeDeath wrote:
Nothing much to say really.
Game 1: 2 base collosus all-in
Game 2: 4 Gate All-in against triple orbital plus teching Keen

No idea why the casters say the games are great.


Foreigner beating a korean, it's a rare thing so people are just happy to get it any way they can.
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
June 17 2012 16:43 GMT
#2766
On June 18 2012 01:43 AxionSteel wrote:
Aeroplaneoverthesea must be raging so hard right now.


Pretty sure he's vacated the forums by this point.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
Willba
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom209 Posts
June 17 2012 16:43 GMT
#2767
On June 18 2012 01:41 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:40 Swords wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games.


Hahaha! You're still whining about Naniwa cheesing the guy who bunker rushed two games in a row because it was the only way he could possibly beat Squirtle in the GSL.

Also, if Keen were good he would've held that 4 gate after getting 3 bunkers, he was greedy as shit and he blew it.

(Note: I do realize Keen is very good)


Except MVP can and does go toe to toe with anyone in a macro game, he uses cheese strategically.

Naniwa just blind all in's in 80% of his games vs good players.

When he does the same to Stephano later on you kids will be whining like crazy.


You are perhaps one of the worst posters I have seen in a LR thread, and thats saying something..
sdecker32
Profile Joined April 2011
United States38 Posts
June 17 2012 16:43 GMT
#2768
On June 18 2012 01:41 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:40 Swords wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games.


Hahaha! You're still whining about Naniwa cheesing the guy who bunker rushed two games in a row because it was the only way he could possibly beat Squirtle in the GSL.

Also, if Keen were good he would've held that 4 gate after getting 3 bunkers, he was greedy as shit and he blew it.

(Note: I do realize Keen is very good)


Except MVP can and does go toe to toe with anyone in a macro game, he uses cheese strategically.

Naniwa just blind all in's in 80% of his games vs good players.

When he does the same to Stephano later on you kids will be whining like crazy.


Do you even watch Naniwas games? or just dislike him?
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
June 17 2012 16:43 GMT
#2769
On June 18 2012 01:42 Scootaloo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:38 SeaSwift wrote:
That was hilarious. Why the fuck did Keen take 2 extra Command Centers after holding off a 4gate? Utterly moronic.


Because it's an MKP build, I believe often called the "eco-cheese", if he was gonna do it he shoulda scouted better for a prolonged attack.
Just another silly thing you can do when you're buildings fly, an ability that Keen seems to be in love with.


He should have scanned Naniwa's natural after holding off the pressure.

Also, stop with the passive aggressive bullshit. Keen floated buildings to try and force a draw. Naniwa all-ined two games in a row. Neither are things this community likes.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
June 17 2012 16:44 GMT
#2770
On June 18 2012 01:40 decerto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:39 Destructicon wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:37 tenacity wrote:
absolute superb attack by naniwa WOW


You mean absolute greed from Keen.
What in hell made him think it was ok to make a 3rd Orbital in that situation when he was being pressured possibly all-ined, blows my mind.

Keen handed that game to Naniwa.


Because he thought nani had expanded and was doing 3gate pressure, keen thought he had denied the pressure and was taking advantage of that, he never scanned the nat


It was still Keen's damn fault for not scanning when he saw he couldn't get a scout across. He could have at least scanned with his 3rd Orbital for confirmation, it would have been a late scan but he might have had time to build enough defenses to hold.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
June 17 2012 16:44 GMT
#2771
On June 18 2012 01:43 eourcs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:42 Chrill wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games.


Eh, have you watched Nani play? He is more than capable beating Keen in macro games.

That's why he decided to do a 2base allin on a map that favors protoss, and then another allin the following game.


maybe he talked to his teammate who got owned by a all in vs Keen on the same map and based his 4 gate off that?
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
June 17 2012 16:44 GMT
#2772
On June 18 2012 01:42 Lasbike wrote:
I love 2GD stream


i wonder why, a girl showing her ass and getting slapped live on camera on a esport festival...... thats a new one probably
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
June 17 2012 16:44 GMT
#2773
On June 18 2012 01:42 IAMPRO wrote:
I like 99% of SC2 pros, i despise naniwa. I shouldn't be such a hater but he is such a tool I don't understand how he has fans. Great player though.


He has fans because he's a great player.

He made me a fan when I saw how last year his determination to get 1st and his utter disappointment in himself when he gets anything less.
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 16:45:42
June 17 2012 16:44 GMT
#2774
On June 18 2012 01:41 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:38 pak150 wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:37 Dosey wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:34 mememolly wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:33 Dosey wrote:
Methinks naniwa can hear the casters


I was wondering that

Just seems odd... The troll hallucination and smiley face. The way he instantly reacted after they said keen was cheesing.

iono gaizzzz

Yeah I agree -- that was a bit weird. They should fix that after this set


Yeah, it certainly seemed weird to me. Keen couldn't see the Stargate, the only reason to do that smiley face was to the viewers, and it looked pretty suspicious. I'm not normally the one to call cheating, but it was a very suspicious circumstance, especially considering he did exactly what the casters were recommending.


If there was any way to hear the casters etc then other competitors, especially naniwa would have brought it up to DH by now. You know how anal these guys are about cheating or losing an advantage. Unless you're suggesting a massive foreigner conspiracy of course where everyone knows about it and doesn't say anything, in which case you're psychotic and should be committed.

In addition, if Naniwa was cheating, would he be stupid enough to communicate with the audience during a match? Lol @ the rationale for some of these arguments . . .

Edit: Cheating is a valid concern for online games imho, but not LAN play.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
aerolol
Profile Joined June 2012
Norway24 Posts
June 17 2012 16:44 GMT
#2775
Dimaga is gonna 2-0 Snute here..
Scootaloo
Profile Joined January 2012
655 Posts
June 17 2012 16:44 GMT
#2776
On June 18 2012 01:41 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:40 Swords wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games.


Hahaha! You're still whining about Naniwa cheesing the guy who bunker rushed two games in a row because it was the only way he could possibly beat Squirtle in the GSL.

Also, if Keen were good he would've held that 4 gate after getting 3 bunkers, he was greedy as shit and he blew it.

(Note: I do realize Keen is very good)


Except MVP can and does go toe to toe with anyone in a macro game, he uses cheese strategically.

Naniwa just blind all in's in 80% of his games vs good players.

When he does the same to Stephano later on you kids will be whining like crazy.


With going toe to toe you mean horribly losing every macro game he played vs Squirtle right?

Methinks you just a terran fanboy that can't stand them finally being shoved from their +50% in all matchups throne.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 17 2012 16:44 GMT
#2777
On June 18 2012 01:43 Willba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:41 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:40 Swords wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games.


Hahaha! You're still whining about Naniwa cheesing the guy who bunker rushed two games in a row because it was the only way he could possibly beat Squirtle in the GSL.

Also, if Keen were good he would've held that 4 gate after getting 3 bunkers, he was greedy as shit and he blew it.

(Note: I do realize Keen is very good)


Except MVP can and does go toe to toe with anyone in a macro game, he uses cheese strategically.

Naniwa just blind all in's in 80% of his games vs good players.

When he does the same to Stephano later on you kids will be whining like crazy.


You are perhaps one of the worst posters I have seen in a LR thread, and thats saying something..


ZeroSC2 is just slightly worse than him and I can think of a few on par
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
June 17 2012 16:44 GMT
#2778
On June 18 2012 01:43 sdecker32 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:41 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:40 Swords wrote:
On June 18 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Oh look Naniwa's cheesing against a good player. Shocking stuff. The casters will of course now pretend that Naniwa played really well and didn't just all in both games.


Hahaha! You're still whining about Naniwa cheesing the guy who bunker rushed two games in a row because it was the only way he could possibly beat Squirtle in the GSL.

Also, if Keen were good he would've held that 4 gate after getting 3 bunkers, he was greedy as shit and he blew it.

(Note: I do realize Keen is very good)


Except MVP can and does go toe to toe with anyone in a macro game, he uses cheese strategically.

Naniwa just blind all in's in 80% of his games vs good players.

When he does the same to Stephano later on you kids will be whining like crazy.


Do you even watch Naniwas games? or just dislike him?


He dislikes all players who aren't Korean.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
June 17 2012 16:44 GMT
#2779
On June 18 2012 01:40 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 01:39 Pr0wler wrote:
"Great game !"... Khaldor really ? It was a 4 gate.

You're underestimating just how good his Forcefields were.

To me the game was good not because of the play, but because of the mindgames.

NaNi knows Keen rushed Squirtle in gsl after losing game one, so he responded with a 4gate. Keen caught the probe after throwing down the 3 rax so he threw down a base and bunkers. NaNi pokes, made it look like he was only poking with stalkers and expanding instead. Keen throws down another base and a factory, NaNi busts in.

The game itself was a 4gate vs. 3base +tech, but getting there was the interesting part.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 17 2012 16:44 GMT
#2780
On June 18 2012 01:43 Snusmumriken wrote:
When naniwa loses in gsl hes a shitty protoss who only knows lategame. When naniwa wins with early/midgame agression hes a shitty protoss who only knows all-ins. Consistency much?


You're taking a large group of people, and saying that some thing that some people say is not consistent with some thing other people say. That doesn't make sense... different people don't need to be consistent with each other.

That being said, I think all the whining and trash talking is ridiculous.
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