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Anonymous_Coward
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom1347 Posts
July 01 2012 17:12 GMT
#1681
On July 02 2012 02:11 sephius wrote:


Anyways, awesome casting, brilliant host, great games. Had a good viewing experience, only thing I didn't like was extended series. Oh well. Good times.


This tournament didn't have extended series. 2 Bo3s in the grand final isn't the same thing at all.
mostevil
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom611 Posts
July 01 2012 17:12 GMT
#1682
On July 02 2012 02:02 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 02:00 Ghanburighan wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:59 Vardant wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:51 vthree wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:41 Trowa127 wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:35 soverRR wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:30 Kenpark wrote:
Well Nani is 100% right. These arent really high level games and I doubt anyone of the players could come even close to qualifying through the sweden qualifier, while there are at least 10 swedes, who could EASILY make top 3 in this.


Yeah, he's saying what a lot of people are thinking, but he does it quite unprofessionally. Then again, there's a lot that can be said about the # of seeds for different countries in this tournament.


Sorry, who is thinking what Nani just said? You say a lot of people, I haven't seen a single person present a semi-decent argument supporting what he said haha. As many people have pointed out, if you wanted a fair representation, there would be 95% koreans. That's not what the WCS is about.


heh, anyone who actually CAN think would know what Naniwa said was ridiculous. Unless you want to give Korea 30 spots and the rest of the world 2 for the WCS (which would be the 'fair' representation).

Look at the number of slots. Germany gets 4, Sweden gets 3, same as the UK. Now anyone who knows anything about SC2 pro scene has to understand, why that is weird and why especially Swedish players are angry about this.


You forgot to write down your argument.

Trouble with that arguement is U.K. should then get 0 spots germany 1 sweden 1 ukraine 1 USA 1 and korea all the other spots.

Indeed, and thats generous to the non-korean nations. A big part of this is to help kickstart the weaker countries pro scenes and grow the game/esport, not to kill them to make the stronger ones stronger still. And its doing a great job, near 27k people watching at one point when we've been told the UK scenes dead.
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
July 01 2012 17:13 GMT
#1683
The reason is not money.
The reason is not population.

The reason is number of players playing SC2 in the countrey (their league doesnt matter)
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
July 01 2012 17:14 GMT
#1684
Pathetic display from DeMusliM and BlinG. They should be ashamed of being in pro teams.

JonnyREcco and Ziktomini may be good players but they aren't the only good but unknown players in EU (despite what some overly patriotic Brits may think) and while I appreciate a good underdog story like everyone else, only one of them should have been able to qualify - and none if you consider that UK should only have 2 seed maximum.
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
July 01 2012 17:17 GMT
#1685
On July 02 2012 02:08 Madest wrote:
Funny – just looked up that our WCS Nationals have 2 spots for final EU tournament and $2K prize pool, while UK has 3 spots and $15K.


Blizzard also probably look at potential growth, the game is a lot more popular in Ukraine based on total number of players alone, not to mention precentage-wise, and considering the UK has a population larger by 20%, there's simply a lot more to be gained by investing in UK.
Vardant
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic620 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 17:21:21
July 01 2012 17:19 GMT
#1686
On July 02 2012 02:00 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 01:59 Vardant wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:51 vthree wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:41 Trowa127 wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:35 soverRR wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:30 Kenpark wrote:
Well Nani is 100% right. These arent really high level games and I doubt anyone of the players could come even close to qualifying through the sweden qualifier, while there are at least 10 swedes, who could EASILY make top 3 in this.


Yeah, he's saying what a lot of people are thinking, but he does it quite unprofessionally. Then again, there's a lot that can be said about the # of seeds for different countries in this tournament.


Sorry, who is thinking what Nani just said? You say a lot of people, I haven't seen a single person present a semi-decent argument supporting what he said haha. As many people have pointed out, if you wanted a fair representation, there would be 95% koreans. That's not what the WCS is about.


heh, anyone who actually CAN think would know what Naniwa said was ridiculous. Unless you want to give Korea 30 spots and the rest of the world 2 for the WCS (which would be the 'fair' representation).

Look at the number of slots. Germany gets 4, Sweden gets 3, same as the UK. Now anyone who knows anything about SC2 pro scene has to understand, why that is weird and why especially Swedish players are angry about this.


You forgot to write down your argument.

The argument is so blindingly obvious, that I can't believe you're actually asking me to spell it out for you.

You can easily fill all the spots in Sweden with players, that are known and we actually know, they can go toe to toe with the best in the world.

Before the UK nationals, you would be hard pressed to even name three UK guys and then there's the question, if they would be even able to hold their own against the rest of the players.

Which I'd love to see, don't get me wrong, but I'd rather give somebody a chance in the big leagues after they show us a little bit more.
Bensio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom621 Posts
July 01 2012 17:19 GMT
#1687
Still a better ceremony than MLG
Pjorren
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden777 Posts
July 01 2012 17:20 GMT
#1688
Hahaha Ziktomini seems like an awesome guy.
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
July 01 2012 17:20 GMT
#1689
Hehe, was a great event with an obvious winner (at least for me ). Thank you very much!
McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
July 01 2012 17:21 GMT
#1690
I really love this tournament. It really brings national pride. I can't wait until the continental and then global championships!
If you can chill. chill. - Liquid'Tyler
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
July 01 2012 17:21 GMT
#1691
Watching this just makes me want Tastosis to come down and do WCS australia.

Ah if only.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
July 01 2012 17:22 GMT
#1692
Wow just tuned in who is this ziktomini guy?
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Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
July 01 2012 17:22 GMT
#1693
I love the starcraft 2 scene allways new players rolling in destroying the pro´s!

Welldone zikto
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Kdrxone
Profile Joined January 2012
14 Posts
July 01 2012 17:23 GMT
#1694
Well that's awkward.
JackDT
Profile Joined January 2012
724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 17:24:23
July 01 2012 17:24 GMT
#1695
Great little WCS event. Excellent host and casters can make any event rock.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
July 01 2012 17:24 GMT
#1696
On July 02 2012 02:19 Vardant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 02:00 Ghanburighan wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:59 Vardant wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:51 vthree wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:41 Trowa127 wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:35 soverRR wrote:
On July 02 2012 01:30 Kenpark wrote:
Well Nani is 100% right. These arent really high level games and I doubt anyone of the players could come even close to qualifying through the sweden qualifier, while there are at least 10 swedes, who could EASILY make top 3 in this.


Yeah, he's saying what a lot of people are thinking, but he does it quite unprofessionally. Then again, there's a lot that can be said about the # of seeds for different countries in this tournament.


Sorry, who is thinking what Nani just said? You say a lot of people, I haven't seen a single person present a semi-decent argument supporting what he said haha. As many people have pointed out, if you wanted a fair representation, there would be 95% koreans. That's not what the WCS is about.


heh, anyone who actually CAN think would know what Naniwa said was ridiculous. Unless you want to give Korea 30 spots and the rest of the world 2 for the WCS (which would be the 'fair' representation).

Look at the number of slots. Germany gets 4, Sweden gets 3, same as the UK. Now anyone who knows anything about SC2 pro scene has to understand, why that is weird and why especially Swedish players are angry about this.


You forgot to write down your argument.

The argument is so blindingly obvious, that I can't believe you're actually asking me to spell it out for you.

You can easily fill all the spots in Sweden with players, that are known and we actually know, they can go toe to toe with the best in the world.

Before the UK nationals, you would be hard pressed to even name three UK guys and then there's the question, if they would be even able to hold their own against the rest of the players.

Which I'd love to see, don't get me wrong, but I'd rather give somebody a chance in the big leagues after they show us a little bit more.

JRecco was supposed to go to DH but couldn't make it.
So Ziktomini went instead and beat players like Stephano and Bly.
HOLY CHECK!
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
July 01 2012 17:24 GMT
#1697
grats to zikto, the guy's been plugging away at online events since forever and it's cool to see that working at his game has paid off in a big event
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Anonymous_Coward
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom1347 Posts
July 01 2012 17:24 GMT
#1698
On July 02 2012 02:23 Kdrxone wrote:
Well that's awkward.



What is?
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
July 01 2012 17:24 GMT
#1699
The fact that there are not more spots for Swedish players despite them being the best outside of Korea is pretty cool considering that it is based on how many people play in the country. Just means that Swedes have more talent than they should have.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
eericson000
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia718 Posts
July 01 2012 17:25 GMT
#1700
On July 02 2012 02:21 iaguz wrote:
Watching this just makes me want Tastosis to come down and do WCS australia.

Ah if only.

Yes if only.....
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