When: Thursday, Jun 07 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also rebroadcast repeatedly afterwards!)
Format
This double-elimination tournament features 24 teams from around the world and is an All-Kill team format. This match is being played for Winners Round 2. The first team to defeat everyone on the opposing team's roster (5 wins, or a best of 9), will move on in the Winners Bracket, while the loser will drop to LR2. Keep in mind that this has a $20,000 prize pool, and only six teams will make it to the money!
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FXO.CIS Brat_OK Strelok HappyZerg LoWeLy Snake Max Elbegast
The First Game of the IPL Team Arena Challenge 3 is on Thursday, Jun 07 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also rebroadcast repeatedly afterwards!)
I really want FXO to sign Bly, cause currently there are numerous teams in EU that are 2-3 people teams with others being just space fillers. FXO has 3.5 players (depends if HappyZerg is on his game or not) and they really need 1 more solid player for team leagues. (Same can be said of Karonte- the spanish team, or Acer)
This isn't a half bad matchup really. If FXO plays as well as they did last time they could upset. I wouldn't count on it, but stranger things have happened (like Bly almost taking out Prime last night)
the only thing concerning si that FXO.CIS doesnt have any real good Protoss. their terran/zerg lineup is scary and the zergs are underrated heavily (esp happyzerg, lowely less so cuz nasl exposed his skill)
On June 07 2012 15:01 ZeroSC2 wrote: do people look at the FXO lineup? lol, so many votes for the eastern europeans
guess some really had their koreans in mind
should end up to be an easy sweep for NSHoseo
wait, so you went from fanboying for Fnatic (especially Alive) to fanboying for IM (after Alive got roflstomped in the Up&Downs) to re-fanboying for Fnatic after IM lost to them in GSTL? LOLL can you make up your mind.
Well, I was going to comment on how NSHS is prob going to sweep FXO, but considering how well Acer did vs Prime, I don't wanna jump the gun this time x:
On June 08 2012 08:09 JerKy wrote: Well, I was going to comment on how NSHS is prob going to sweep FXO, but considering how well Acer did vs Prime, I don't wanna jump the gun this time x:
On June 08 2012 08:22 Pirat6662001 wrote: WOW, GO ELBEGAST, we have a saying in Russia- even a stick can shoot once.
What?!? How does that make sence?
It means that some one thats kinda useless and below everyones level will probably have 1 good game (the saying means slightly different thing, but in this setting thats what it means)
On June 07 2012 14:56 Pirat6662001 wrote: I really want FXO to sign Bly, cause currently there are numerous teams in EU that are 2-3 people teams with others being just space fillers. FXO has 3.5 players (depends if HappyZerg is on his game or not) and they really need 1 more solid player for team leagues. (Same can be said of Karonte- the spanish team, or Acer)
It will be hard to sign player of Bly caliber, cuz probably ~80% of all salary expenses are spread between Strelok and BratOK. Also, I think HappyZerg and Lowely are on the way to reaching their potential. What they really need is strong protoss player. Max is basically a noname and Elbegast's skill level is somewhere between low GM-high Masters.
On June 07 2012 14:56 Pirat6662001 wrote: I really want FXO to sign Bly, cause currently there are numerous teams in EU that are 2-3 people teams with others being just space fillers. FXO has 3.5 players (depends if HappyZerg is on his game or not) and they really need 1 more solid player for team leagues. (Same can be said of Karonte- the spanish team, or Acer)
It will be hard to sign player of Bly caliber, cuz probably ~80% of all salary expenses are spread between Strelok and BratOK. Also, I think HappyZerg and Lowely are on the way to reaching their potential. What they really need is strong protoss player. Max is basically a noname and Elbegast's skill level is somewhere between low GM-high Masters.
Elbegas was in school i believe, may be during summer he will reach higher level
Another terrible first engagement leads to an NSHS loss. Also a really weird decisions to go for Colossus that quick. But great play by Elbegast this game.
On June 07 2012 14:56 Pirat6662001 wrote: I really want FXO to sign Bly, cause currently there are numerous teams in EU that are 2-3 people teams with others being just space fillers. FXO has 3.5 players (depends if HappyZerg is on his game or not) and they really need 1 more solid player for team leagues. (Same can be said of Karonte- the spanish team, or Acer)
It will be hard to sign player of Bly caliber, cuz probably ~80% of all salary expenses are spread between Strelok and BratOK. Also, I think HappyZerg and Lowely are on the way to reaching their potential. What they really need is strong protoss player. Max is basically a noname and Elbegast's skill level is somewhere between low GM-high Masters.
Why bashing Elbegast when he has already 2 kills vs top korean team. Words. SEnse . does not make. Also HappyZerg isnt any better from my experience on ladder vs them.Not to say hes bad.
On June 07 2012 14:56 Pirat6662001 wrote: I really want FXO to sign Bly, cause currently there are numerous teams in EU that are 2-3 people teams with others being just space fillers. FXO has 3.5 players (depends if HappyZerg is on his game or not) and they really need 1 more solid player for team leagues. (Same can be said of Karonte- the spanish team, or Acer)
It will be hard to sign player of Bly caliber, cuz probably ~80% of all salary expenses are spread between Strelok and BratOK. Also, I think HappyZerg and Lowely are on the way to reaching their potential. What they really need is strong protoss player. Max is basically a noname and Elbegast's skill level is somewhere between low GM-high Masters.
Why bashing Elbegast when he has already 2 kills vs top korean team. Words. SEnse . does not make. Also HappyZerg isnt any better from my experience on ladder vs them.Not to say hes bad.
Statistics doesnt work that well, he litteraly has these two wins as his only accomplishkent and he has been a member of the team for a year, in team leagues him and Snake are the weaklinks usually of FXO.CIS
On June 07 2012 14:56 Pirat6662001 wrote: I really want FXO to sign Bly, cause currently there are numerous teams in EU that are 2-3 people teams with others being just space fillers. FXO has 3.5 players (depends if HappyZerg is on his game or not) and they really need 1 more solid player for team leagues. (Same can be said of Karonte- the spanish team, or Acer)
It will be hard to sign player of Bly caliber, cuz probably ~80% of all salary expenses are spread between Strelok and BratOK. Also, I think HappyZerg and Lowely are on the way to reaching their potential. What they really need is strong protoss player. Max is basically a noname and Elbegast's skill level is somewhere between low GM-high Masters.
Why bashing Elbegast when he has already 2 kills vs top korean team. Words. SEnse . does not make. Also HappyZerg isnt any better from my experience on ladder vs them.Not to say hes bad.
Statistics doesnt work that well, he litteraly has these two wins as his only accomplishkent and he has been a member of the team for a year, in team leagues him and Snake are the weaklinks usually of FXO.CIS
Ok but bashing a player while he posts somewhat notable results is a bit over the top isnt it. and HappyZerg main contribution to the team until recently was exposure through streaming and okish results in go4sc2 and such.. he wasnt even doing too well on ladder. nc on Snake tho every game ive played him he allins into trahtalk..
Watch, now they are going to get the foreigner curse and lose, because not winning these kind of games is unforgivable. He ven got everything low again, but then didnt keep going and pulled back vs 3 marines and let marauder and 2nd medivac come out
Sting was in such a great position before, but he screwed around too much, and is now paying the price. Hell, he wasn't even ready for the Brood Lord switch, or any Hive tech at all.
On June 08 2012 08:54 Corsica wrote: Elbegast and Lowely just emberassed themselves lol
Yeah Elbegast beating two Koreans is really embarrassing.
Sorry should have clarified, last game he just threw auto win away many micro mistakes and bad judgements, and cross out my words Lowely played bad early game but his midgame and endgame looked pretty good
On June 08 2012 08:54 Corsica wrote: Elbegast and Lowely just emberassed themselves lol
Yeah Elbegast beating two Koreans is really embarrassing.
Sorry should have clarified, last game he just threw auto win away many micro mistakes and bad judgements, and cross out my words Lowely played bad early game but his midgame and endgame looked pretty good
I would say it's because of inexperience and nerve. More experienced player would be able to play that game more smoothly.
On June 08 2012 08:54 Corsica wrote: Elbegast and Lowely just emberassed themselves lol
Yeah Elbegast beating two Koreans is really embarrassing.
Sorry should have clarified, last game he just threw auto win away many micro mistakes and bad judgements, and cross out my words Lowely played bad early game but his midgame and endgame looked pretty good
I would say it's because of inexperience and nerve. More experienced player would be able to play that game more smoothly.
Honestly i'd say its nerves. This is the biggest game he played in, and beating 3 Koreans is a huge deal
On June 08 2012 09:26 sunnata wrote: I've been waiting for him this whole match, but noooooo, BratOK's TvP is soo bad. :{
Strelok is also not stellar in this match up. Basicaly FXO lost this most likely, but i hope ebelgast will be driven to actually practice and preform after this. Both him and HappyZerg cant even win online cups, they really need to step it up
Why cant he just fucking not made mistakes that are completely ....- oh i stimed 20 times and my units are down. Must SCAN, SEE 3 TEMPLAR WITH STORM, and RUN INTO THEM. why would you just throw away the advantage????????????????????? Foreigners are ,...... when they get ahead and dont win right away, because somehow pulling back and building up is too hard for them
On June 08 2012 09:42 StarVe wrote: Chase Protoss who has storm with 5hp army. Smart.
lol this... that was funny to watch... He should have went forward tried to snipe the 2 sentries and one immortal that were trailing behind then fall back. Also why no make medivacs?????? like 20 vikings to deal with 2-3 collosi?
Of course its easy to call when you can see everything.
On June 08 2012 09:42 StarVe wrote: Chase Protoss who has storm with 5hp army. Smart.
lol this... that was funny to watch... He should have went forward tried to snipe the 2 sentries and one immortal that were trailing behind then fall back. Also why no make medivacs?????? like 20 vikings to deal with 2-3 collosi?
Of course its easy to call when you can see everything.
HE DID SEE EVERYTHING, he scaned the whole army multiple times
On June 08 2012 09:44 Pirat6662001 wrote: Why cant he just fucking not made mistakes that are completely dumb- oh i stimed 20 times and my units are down. Must SCAN, SEE 3 TEMPLAR WITH STORM, and RUN INTO THEM. why would you just throw away the advantage????????????????????? Foreigners are useless when they get ahead and dont win right away, because somehow pulling back and building up is too hard for them
lol wow.... Take it easy man, he messed up shit happens. calling all foreigners useless when they get ahead is a bit much.
On June 08 2012 09:44 Pirat6662001 wrote: Why cant he just fucking not made mistakes that are completely dumb- oh i stimed 20 times and my units are down. Must SCAN, SEE 3 TEMPLAR WITH STORM, and RUN INTO THEM. why would you just throw away the advantage????????????????????? Foreigners are useless when they get ahead and dont win right away, because somehow pulling back and building up is too hard for them
Cuz if u dont make mistakes that are dumb, which when u think about it might be a bit redundant, u become mvp. easier to say than to do.
Btw who is casting with kevin knocke i like how he calls a 70% pvt map "really good for terran, and almost good for protoss"
On June 08 2012 09:44 Pirat6662001 wrote: Why cant he just fucking not made mistakes that are completely dumb- oh i stimed 20 times and my units are down. Must SCAN, SEE 3 TEMPLAR WITH STORM, and RUN INTO THEM. why would you just throw away the advantage????????????????????? Foreigners are useless when they get ahead and dont win right away, because somehow pulling back and building up is too hard for them
lol wow.... Take it easy man, he messed up shit happens. calling all foreigners useless when they get ahead is a bit much.
Really- lets begin- White-ra in Korea vs the World. July all-ins against him and fails. White-Ra instead of playing normaly does a really bad all in (while being miles ahead) and LOSES. Foreigners proced to lose that series. White-Ra vs MC in Dreamhack Winter- WHite-ra is up 2-0 and needs to win 1 more game. PROCEEDS TO DERP ENDLESSLY AND LOSE (funny enough gets 0$ cause dreamhack game all the money to 1st place). I can go on and on. Foriegners dont know how to WIN. Thats why they dont all in as much and have this notion that macro games are the goal. When winning should be the goal.
On June 08 2012 09:44 Pirat6662001 wrote: Why cant he just fucking not made mistakes that are completely dumb- oh i stimed 20 times and my units are down. Must SCAN, SEE 3 TEMPLAR WITH STORM, and RUN INTO THEM. why would you just throw away the advantage????????????????????? Foreigners are useless when they get ahead and dont win right away, because somehow pulling back and building up is too hard for them
lol wow.... Take it easy man, he messed up shit happens. calling all foreigners useless when they get ahead is a bit much.
Really- lets begin- White-ra in Korea vs the World. July all-ins against him and fails. White-Ra instead of playing normaly does a really bad all in (while being miles ahead) and LOSES. Foreigners proced to lose that series. White-Ra vs MC in Dreamhack Winter- WHite-ra is up 2-0 and needs to win 1 more game. PROCEEDS TO DERP ENDLESSLY AND LOSE (funny enough gets 0$ cause dreamhack game all the money to 1st place). I can go on and on. Foriegners dont know how to WIN. Thats why they dont all in as much and have this notion that macro games are the goal. When winning should be the goal.
Stephano huk naniwa the old jinro... I can go on and on
On June 08 2012 09:44 Pirat6662001 wrote: Why cant he just fucking not made mistakes that are completely dumb- oh i stimed 20 times and my units are down. Must SCAN, SEE 3 TEMPLAR WITH STORM, and RUN INTO THEM. why would you just throw away the advantage????????????????????? Foreigners are useless when they get ahead and dont win right away, because somehow pulling back and building up is too hard for them
Cuz if u dont make mistakes that are dumb, which when u think about it might be a bit redundant, u become mvp. easier to say than to do.
Btw who is casting with kevin knocke i like how he calls a 70% pvt map "really good for terran, and almost good for protoss"
On June 08 2012 09:44 Pirat6662001 wrote: Why cant he just fucking not made mistakes that are completely dumb- oh i stimed 20 times and my units are down. Must SCAN, SEE 3 TEMPLAR WITH STORM, and RUN INTO THEM. why would you just throw away the advantage????????????????????? Foreigners are useless when they get ahead and dont win right away, because somehow pulling back and building up is too hard for them
lol wow.... Take it easy man, he messed up shit happens. calling all foreigners useless when they get ahead is a bit much.
Really- lets begin- White-ra in Korea vs the World. July all-ins against him and fails. White-Ra instead of playing normaly does a really bad all in (while being miles ahead) and LOSES. Foreigners proced to lose that series. White-Ra vs MC in Dreamhack Winter- WHite-ra is up 2-0 and needs to win 1 more game. PROCEEDS TO DERP ENDLESSLY AND LOSE (funny enough gets 0$ cause dreamhack game all the money to 1st place). I can go on and on. Foriegners dont know how to WIN. Thats why they dont all in as much and have this notion that macro games are the goal. When winning should be the goal.
Stephano huk naniwa the old jinro... I can go on and on
Really? Okay, how many times haypro, Ret and other foreigner seeds failed in first round? in code A not even S. The team leagues are being lost because foreigners have no idea how to win. Like going tanks vs toss. WHY WOULD YOU GO TANKS. THere are no units besiees stalkers that tanks are good vs and chargelots just counter them really hard (as do collosus and archons)
On June 08 2012 09:44 Pirat6662001 wrote: Why cant he just fucking not made mistakes that are completely dumb- oh i stimed 20 times and my units are down. Must SCAN, SEE 3 TEMPLAR WITH STORM, and RUN INTO THEM. why would you just throw away the advantage????????????????????? Foreigners are useless when they get ahead and dont win right away, because somehow pulling back and building up is too hard for them
lol wow.... Take it easy man, he messed up shit happens. calling all foreigners useless when they get ahead is a bit much.
Really- lets begin- White-ra in Korea vs the World. July all-ins against him and fails. White-Ra instead of playing normaly does a really bad all in (while being miles ahead) and LOSES. Foreigners proced to lose that series. White-Ra vs MC in Dreamhack Winter- WHite-ra is up 2-0 and needs to win 1 more game. PROCEEDS TO DERP ENDLESSLY AND LOSE (funny enough gets 0$ cause dreamhack game all the money to 1st place). I can go on and on. Foriegners dont know how to WIN. Thats why they dont all in as much and have this notion that macro games are the goal. When winning should be the goal.
Stephano huk naniwa the old jinro... I can go on and on
Really? Okay, how many times haypro, Ret and other foreigner seeds failed in first round? in code A not even S. The team leagues are being lost because foreigners have no idea how to win. Like going tanks vs toss. WHY WOULD YOU GO TANKS. THere are no units besiees stalkers that tanks are good vs and chargelots just counter them really hard (as do collosus and archons)
Guess you should tell MVP to stop making 3-4 tanks in TvP sometimes then. That seemed to be what Strelok was doing, he just appeared too cautious and went for a third which he wasn't ready to defend.
Anyway, I've seen a number of Koreans derp far harder than Strelok just then. Nestea letting DT kill his main with detection available, moon's bling bombs, mvp's banelingbust losses, etc. So I don't really get what your point is at all. Everyone makes mistakes, I'm honestly yet to see what I would determine as a 'perfect game' by any player yet.
On June 08 2012 09:44 Pirat6662001 wrote: Why cant he just fucking not made mistakes that are completely dumb- oh i stimed 20 times and my units are down. Must SCAN, SEE 3 TEMPLAR WITH STORM, and RUN INTO THEM. why would you just throw away the advantage????????????????????? Foreigners are useless when they get ahead and dont win right away, because somehow pulling back and building up is too hard for them
lol wow.... Take it easy man, he messed up shit happens. calling all foreigners useless when they get ahead is a bit much.
Really- lets begin- White-ra in Korea vs the World. July all-ins against him and fails. White-Ra instead of playing normaly does a really bad all in (while being miles ahead) and LOSES. Foreigners proced to lose that series. White-Ra vs MC in Dreamhack Winter- WHite-ra is up 2-0 and needs to win 1 more game. PROCEEDS TO DERP ENDLESSLY AND LOSE (funny enough gets 0$ cause dreamhack game all the money to 1st place). I can go on and on. Foriegners dont know how to WIN. Thats why they dont all in as much and have this notion that macro games are the goal. When winning should be the goal.
Stephano huk naniwa the old jinro... I can go on and on
Really? Okay, how many times haypro, Ret and other foreigner seeds failed in first round? in code A not even S. The team leagues are being lost because foreigners have no idea how to win. Like going tanks vs toss. WHY WOULD YOU GO TANKS. THere are no units besiees stalkers that tanks are good vs and chargelots just counter them really hard (as do collosus and archons)
If you are going to pick out players to represent foreigners, do not pick Haypro.
On June 08 2012 09:44 Pirat6662001 wrote: Why cant he just fucking not made mistakes that are completely dumb- oh i stimed 20 times and my units are down. Must SCAN, SEE 3 TEMPLAR WITH STORM, and RUN INTO THEM. why would you just throw away the advantage????????????????????? Foreigners are useless when they get ahead and dont win right away, because somehow pulling back and building up is too hard for them
lol wow.... Take it easy man, he messed up shit happens. calling all foreigners useless when they get ahead is a bit much.
Really- lets begin- White-ra in Korea vs the World. July all-ins against him and fails. White-Ra instead of playing normaly does a really bad all in (while being miles ahead) and LOSES. Foreigners proced to lose that series. White-Ra vs MC in Dreamhack Winter- WHite-ra is up 2-0 and needs to win 1 more game. PROCEEDS TO DERP ENDLESSLY AND LOSE (funny enough gets 0$ cause dreamhack game all the money to 1st place). I can go on and on. Foriegners dont know how to WIN. Thats why they dont all in as much and have this notion that macro games are the goal. When winning should be the goal.
Stephano huk naniwa the old jinro... I can go on and on
Really? Okay, how many times haypro, Ret and other foreigner seeds failed in first round? in code A not even S. The team leagues are being lost because foreigners have no idea how to win. Like going tanks vs toss. WHY WOULD YOU GO TANKS. THere are no units besiees stalkers that tanks are good vs and chargelots just counter them really hard (as do collosus and archons)
Guess you should tell MVP to stop making 3-4 tanks in TvP sometimes then. That seemed to be what Strelok was doing, he just appeared too cautious and went for a third which he wasn't ready to defend.
Anyway, I've seen a number of Koreans derp far harder than Strelok just then. Nestea letting DT kill his main with detection available, moon's bling bombs, mvp's banelingbust losses, etc. So I don't really get what your point is at all. Everyone makes mistakes, I'm honestly yet to see what I would determine as a 'perfect game' by any player yet.
He doesnt go into late game with tanks. Tanks are early all in and some midgame unit in TvP. Once speedlots are out they need to be in unsieged mode cause they will do more damage to your marauders than zealots
On June 08 2012 09:44 Pirat6662001 wrote: Why cant he just fucking not made mistakes that are completely dumb- oh i stimed 20 times and my units are down. Must SCAN, SEE 3 TEMPLAR WITH STORM, and RUN INTO THEM. why would you just throw away the advantage????????????????????? Foreigners are useless when they get ahead and dont win right away, because somehow pulling back and building up is too hard for them
lol wow.... Take it easy man, he messed up shit happens. calling all foreigners useless when they get ahead is a bit much.
Really- lets begin- White-ra in Korea vs the World. July all-ins against him and fails. White-Ra instead of playing normaly does a really bad all in (while being miles ahead) and LOSES. Foreigners proced to lose that series. White-Ra vs MC in Dreamhack Winter- WHite-ra is up 2-0 and needs to win 1 more game. PROCEEDS TO DERP ENDLESSLY AND LOSE (funny enough gets 0$ cause dreamhack game all the money to 1st place). I can go on and on. Foriegners dont know how to WIN. Thats why they dont all in as much and have this notion that macro games are the goal. When winning should be the goal.
Stephano huk naniwa the old jinro... I can go on and on
Really? Okay, how many times haypro, Ret and other foreigner seeds failed in first round? in code A not even S. The team leagues are being lost because foreigners have no idea how to win. Like going tanks vs toss. WHY WOULD YOU GO TANKS. THere are no units besiees stalkers that tanks are good vs and chargelots just counter them really hard (as do collosus and archons)
Guess you should tell MVP to stop making 3-4 tanks in TvP sometimes then. That seemed to be what Strelok was doing, he just appeared too cautious and went for a third which he wasn't ready to defend.
Anyway, I've seen a number of Koreans derp far harder than Strelok just then. Nestea letting DT kill his main with detection available, moon's bling bombs, mvp's banelingbust losses, etc. So I don't really get what your point is at all. Everyone makes mistakes, I'm honestly yet to see what I would determine as a 'perfect game' by any player yet.
He doesnt go into late game with tanks. Tanks are early all in and some midgame unit in TvP. Once speedlots are out they need to be in unsieged mode cause they will do more damage to your marauders than zealots
Yeah there is no way haypro or ret could beat big name Koreans... Especially in their best match ups... Oh wait... Let alone players like socke, idra, thorzain
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