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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 25 2012 03:29 GMT
#41
On May 25 2012 12:28 Oboeman wrote:
Haha. Well I can kind of think about cloud's reasoning.

If he doesn't kill the roaches and queens as they hatch, stephano will eventually build up a big enough unit count to kill the hellions.

So he could run into the main and kill 20 drones and that's it. Hellions get trapped and killed and he dies to the roach counterattack, and stephano still has 3 bases and a solid economy.

I figure that's why he wanted to kill the units as they hatched 1 by 1, because he could... but it took too long and ended up being wrong.

so instead he lets all his hellions killed by roaches without killing 20 drones...
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Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 03:34:20
May 25 2012 03:33 GMT
#42
On May 25 2012 12:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 12:28 Oboeman wrote:
Haha. Well I can kind of think about cloud's reasoning.

If he doesn't kill the roaches and queens as they hatch, stephano will eventually build up a big enough unit count to kill the hellions.

So he could run into the main and kill 20 drones and that's it. Hellions get trapped and killed and he dies to the roach counterattack, and stephano still has 3 bases and a solid economy.

I figure that's why he wanted to kill the units as they hatched 1 by 1, because he could... but it took too long and ended up being wrong.

so instead he lets all his hellions killed by roaches without killing 20 drones...


He cleaned out most of the natural, so he killed a ton of drones, but not all. When I open 3 base with a roach warren, I honestly don't give a crap about double factory builds. I can scout it late, make enough drones for continuous roach production, and then pop out a ton of roaches and still hold comfortably, even if he ransacks one of my bases of drones. The queen buff makes it even easier.

cloud may have gotten more drone kills if he ran straight to the main, but I find the mass hellion builds only win if you can kill every single drone, which you can't really do when he has a roach warren and a 3rd base.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 25 2012 03:38 GMT
#43
On May 25 2012 12:33 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 12:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 25 2012 12:28 Oboeman wrote:
Haha. Well I can kind of think about cloud's reasoning.

If he doesn't kill the roaches and queens as they hatch, stephano will eventually build up a big enough unit count to kill the hellions.

So he could run into the main and kill 20 drones and that's it. Hellions get trapped and killed and he dies to the roach counterattack, and stephano still has 3 bases and a solid economy.

I figure that's why he wanted to kill the units as they hatched 1 by 1, because he could... but it took too long and ended up being wrong.

so instead he lets all his hellions killed by roaches without killing 20 drones...


He cleaned out most of the natural, so he killed a ton of drones, but not all. When I open 3 base with a roach warren, I honestly don't give a crap about double factory builds. I can scout it late, make enough drones for continuous roach production, and then pop out a ton of roaches and still hold comfortably, even if he ransacks one of my bases of drones. The queen buff makes it even easier.

cloud may have gotten more drone kills if he ran straight to the main, but I find the mass hellion builds only win if you can kill every single drone, which you can't really do when he has a roach warren and a 3rd base.

the thing is he could have cleaned out the natural and the main. stephano was throwing like one or two roaches at him at a time and cloud just focused on them rather than just going into the main. no way should he have lost that game.
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 03:42:56
May 25 2012 03:42 GMT
#44
With the sloppy play - for his standard - that Stephano was doing I think Cloud had a great shot at taking the team league, but his play felt demoralized. I think he is frustrated with SC 2 still.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 25 2012 03:43 GMT
#45
thanks for tuning in everyone ! Hope you had fun, I know I did!

Cya tomorrow where I will join Azael and cast again <3
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
May 25 2012 07:10 GMT
#46
not surprised to the least by any of the result, just wondering why they would send Cloud as an ace when he can't beat Stephano
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
May 25 2012 07:19 GMT
#47
stephano feels super confident in his ZvT right now, atn should do some basic research..
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