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xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
May 22 2012 06:42 GMT
#361
lol that drone was just sitting there forever... =.=
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50900 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 06:43:41
May 22 2012 06:42 GMT
#362
No way action going 3 hatch speedling.

Lurkerling.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
May 22 2012 06:43 GMT
#363
On May 22 2012 15:42 xxpack09 wrote:
lol that drone was just sitting there forever... =.=


He doesn't wanted to be mutated in to a building you know ?
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
May 22 2012 06:43 GMT
#364
FirebatHero kinna looks like Mr.Bean got cancer.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 22 2012 06:43 GMT
#365
Huge swarm of lings heading to FBH's base
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 22 2012 06:43 GMT
#366
ling lurker hahha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
May 22 2012 06:44 GMT
#367
FBh dead yet ?
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
May 22 2012 06:44 GMT
#368
On May 22 2012 15:41 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 15:37 Caihead wrote:
On May 22 2012 15:35 baubo wrote:
On May 22 2012 15:26 tianGO wrote:
In a normal late game scenario how much supply is taken by workers? (like in sc2 is something like 70 or so workers until you start saccing if needed).


Full worker saturation is about 2.5x mineral patches. 3x workers for gas per expansion. And players generally fully saturate 3 bases at most, as in they do not fully saturate at 4+ bases. So ~70 supply seems about right for BW too. That said, I find that BW races and even progamers of the same race tend to vary a lot more in terms of worker count. Some progamers control worker count very carefully, while others tend to make a lot of them. So it's less scientific IMO.


SC1 worker count is less scientific? >_>

go watch zergs play


If you want to give a very detailed breakdown of races, builds, player strategies, be my guest. I was just giving a general estimate. And yes, it applies to T/P more than Z, which doesn't get to saturate its bases due to its mechanics lack of queens.


no... it doesn't saturate its bases due to lack of need for minerals, zerg in sc1 is completely gas dependent were 3 gas zerg is a completely different animal to 2 gas. Even in the late game with idle larvae and excess minerals its pointless to make more drones to saturate minerals
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 06:45:00
May 22 2012 06:44 GMT
#369
On May 22 2012 15:44 Sawamura wrote:
FBh dead yet ?


action didnt attack, just sitting outside the wall denying a third

vultures out, lings have to run away.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
May 22 2012 06:44 GMT
#370
One of the most annoying things switching between the two games is bw buildings spend their money as they start to be built, sc2 ones spend it as soon as you click. Going back to iccup I was always sending something to build then spending the money before it gets there
Yhamm is the god of predictions
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50900 Posts
May 22 2012 06:44 GMT
#371
On May 22 2012 15:44 Sawamura wrote:
FBh dead yet ?


no, but action is going 3 hatch lurker.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
May 22 2012 06:44 GMT
#372
On May 22 2012 15:41 Goldfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 15:37 Caihead wrote:
On May 22 2012 15:35 baubo wrote:
On May 22 2012 15:26 tianGO wrote:
In a normal late game scenario how much supply is taken by workers? (like in sc2 is something like 70 or so workers until you start saccing if needed).


Full worker saturation is about 2.5x mineral patches. 3x workers for gas per expansion. And players generally fully saturate 3 bases at most, as in they do not fully saturate at 4+ bases. So ~70 supply seems about right for BW too. That said, I find that BW races and even progamers of the same race tend to vary a lot more in terms of worker count. Some progamers control worker count very carefully, while others tend to make a lot of them. So it's less scientific IMO.


SC1 worker count is less scientific? >_>

go watch zergs play


SC2 players, this may be crazy but watch this click.

Probes > Drones > SCV in terms of mining rates. Also known as how Blizzard accidentally made SCBW balanced on their (relatively due to few balance patches) first try.

correct

the other major thing the sc2 players should know is diminishing returns hit a lot faster

so you can have an equal count of workers but mine faster on 3base vs 2base

less scientific isn't exactly the way i'd describe it, but rather there's no exact magic number to aim for because of how the saturation curve works, whereas as sc2 bases have a hard cap on how fast they can mine
aaaaa
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
May 22 2012 06:44 GMT
#373
well action is fucked lol, nice job hiding the mech
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 22 2012 06:45 GMT
#374
vultures remind me of reapers haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50900 Posts
May 22 2012 06:45 GMT
#375
OH GOD NO THE DRONES!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 22 2012 06:45 GMT
#376
the dronesssssss

lurkers morphing
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
May 22 2012 06:45 GMT
#377
oh no! expecting mutas!!!
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
May 22 2012 06:46 GMT
#378
On May 22 2012 15:35 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 15:33 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On May 22 2012 15:31 xxpack09 wrote:
On May 22 2012 15:29 Goldfish wrote:
On May 22 2012 15:27 xxpack09 wrote:
wow, everyone voting 4 or 5 stars? That game was pretty meh tbh, there was some cool goon micro but flash just totally rolled


Compared to other Hybrid PL BW games, that was easily 4-5 stars IMO. Plus SC2 players get to see BW Carriers in action.


Yeah but if you compare it to last PL finals, that's a 2 star game at best. Comparing it to the rest of hybrid PL doesn't seem like a good standard.


Yeah, but Air Force ACE, even before hybrid league, would never have been able to bring in the game quality of SKT T1 vs KT Rolster Proleague Finals.


Ace had boxer back than and his game was entertaining


Sadly, I missed that period. When I started watching pro StarCraft, Oversky was the only player who could be relied upon to occasionally win for ACE. I remember the excitement when Anytime and Reach joined ACE and the team actually started going from 0-3s and 1-3s to a lot of Ace Match losses and even the rare wins. Ace was always entertaining, but it was mostly because nobody expected Yellow to beat Bisu but everyone wanted to see it, not because they were high calibre games.

Ace was always entertaining, but it wasn't so much because of game quality, just because of the storyline. And I just don't have that much of an attachment to M18M, great, Piano, Canata, etc...

Any way, the point here is that Oversky is a hero.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50900 Posts
May 22 2012 06:46 GMT
#379
lurker contain at FBH's natural now.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
May 22 2012 06:46 GMT
#380
Action decision making at it's best.
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