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SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
May 19 2012 21:07 GMT
#1401
On May 20 2012 06:04 kratos-23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:03 HowardRoark wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:01 kratos-23 wrote:
PvZ is so boring

Yeah, Protoss in WoL is a disgrace in game design. But Terran and Zerg are well-designed races. I am happy if they make Protoss weak and we won't have to watch them.

i hope they fix protoss in heart of the swarm


-delay Warp Gate by a lot
-give a more interesting ability than Chrono
-delay FFs
-improve potential for micro somehow
-bring back Carrier move/attack from BW (and buff Carrier)
Majynx
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1431 Posts
May 19 2012 21:07 GMT
#1402
Damn....Polt is soooo good...
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26304 Posts
May 19 2012 21:07 GMT
#1403
On May 20 2012 06:04 kratos-23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:03 HowardRoark wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:01 kratos-23 wrote:
PvZ is so boring

Yeah, Protoss in WoL is a disgrace in game design. But Terran and Zerg are well-designed races. I am happy if they make Protoss weak and we won't have to watch them.

i hope they fix protoss in heart of the swarm

Same here, I just want mechanics and control to be more important and actually make a difference if you're competent in those regards.

Really tempted to switch to T at present, just finding them more interesting to play. Polt is a monster to watch, loving these FP views
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 19 2012 21:07 GMT
#1404
On May 20 2012 06:07 Aodh wrote:
Did Socke loose? Proud of him anyhow, one of the most underestimated players out there.. =(


It works in his favour i think, people never have high expectations of him causing him to upset time and time again.
ItchyLegs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada369 Posts
May 19 2012 21:08 GMT
#1405
DJWheat is doing great this tournament! Also, Polt is really good. Like, sick good.

On another note - looking at the bracket, it seems Heart has the easiest run. Discuss!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 19 2012 21:08 GMT
#1406
On May 20 2012 06:06 Oboeman wrote:
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On May 20 2012 06:03 Fusilero wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:02 Oboeman wrote:

There is zero measure by which Stephano is better than MC. MC surpasses him in overall results, results in 2012, prize money, head to head record, record vs other top Koreans.

what about hair? I think stephano is ahead in that regard.

MC has the superior clothing though like the murloc suit.


Good point. MC also confronted a pickpocket at ESWC which means he has an advantage over the french.

Well at the very least if stephano tries to pickpocket MC at a fashion contest it's gg no re for stephano.
Glorious SEA doto
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 19 2012 21:08 GMT
#1407
Stephano 2-0 MC? Sweet. I picked him to win it all. Hopefully he continues to play well.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2012 21:08 GMT
#1408
game 2 about to start on main stream, grubby v ryung on gameplay 1, and inori v heart on POV 3
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
IMHope
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)1241 Posts
May 19 2012 21:08 GMT
#1409
Polt has been playing really good at this event. Really showing a good TvZ.
Jessica Jung, Kim Taeyeon, Kwon Yuri <333
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
May 19 2012 21:08 GMT
#1410
I want a Polt vs Stephano winner's bracket finals so bad.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 19 2012 21:08 GMT
#1411
On May 20 2012 06:07 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:07 Aodh wrote:
Did Socke loose? Proud of him anyhow, one of the most underestimated players out there.. =(


It works in his favour i think, people never have high expectations of him causing him to upset time and time again.


You'd think that after EVERY FUCKING MLG people would stop thinking its an upset.... W/e, hope he still manages to get pool play for championship
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
May 19 2012 21:09 GMT
#1412
On May 20 2012 06:07 Asha` wrote:
Polt's the new Puma. Does well at foreign events but can't win in Korea anymore xD


When did puma ever win in korea? Polt has a super championship with the biggest cash prize...
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 19 2012 21:09 GMT
#1413
On May 20 2012 06:05 power-overwhelming wrote:
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On May 20 2012 06:03 Azarkon wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:56 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:54 MCDayC wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:51 Hart_Zhen wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
[quote]

Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC.


The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.

Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive.


MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano!


Major LAN wins in 2012 for Stephano - 0
Major LAN wins in 2012 for MC - 2.

MC is the better player.


Major LAN wins in 2012 for Parting - 0

Major LAN wins in 2012 for Thorzain - 1

Thorzain is the better player.


I don't know why I bother talking to such clueless fanboys.

I agree that MC is better than Stephano, but you can't be angry that your terrible metric for player skill is turned against you.


Yes, tournaments won and head to head record is such a poor way to compare players.


H2H record from a year ago, combined with tournament results from just 2012?

Besides the relevance of these stats, it's obvious that you're massaging the stats you're giving to paint Stephano in a worse light. Lifetime results are great for evaluating a player's career but not for how skilled they are right now. Tournament results are heavily dependent on the roll of the dice a lot of the times due to the way brackets are set up. Squirtle has zero LAN wins in 2012, does this make him worse than MC?


Lmao you act as if the H2H record taking from a year ago was what made the H2H record so one-sided.

Blizz cup was just a few months ago, HSC wasn't that long ago, and IPL FC was just a few weeks ago.


He lost 1 game to MC in Blizzard Cup, and 4 in HSC. HSC 3 was one year ago. Counting only the HSC 4 result -> Stephano is 2-3 vs. MC on LANs, 3-5 vs. him online. It's a decent result considering MC's PvZ is enough to 3-0 DRG.
Plutonik
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada329 Posts
May 19 2012 21:09 GMT
#1414
wow amazing play by polt
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
May 19 2012 21:09 GMT
#1415
Polt always does that beautiful marine concave making infestors useless.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 19 2012 21:09 GMT
#1416
On May 20 2012 06:07 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:04 kratos-23 wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:03 HowardRoark wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:01 kratos-23 wrote:
PvZ is so boring

Yeah, Protoss in WoL is a disgrace in game design. But Terran and Zerg are well-designed races. I am happy if they make Protoss weak and we won't have to watch them.

i hope they fix protoss in heart of the swarm


-delay Warp Gate by a lot
-give a more interesting ability than Chrono
-delay FFs
-improve potential for micro somehow
-bring back Carrier move/attack from BW (and buff Carrier)


I disagree with every move except for the last one. There's no reason for carriers to be as terrible as they are now, but delaying warpgates solves nothing, chronoboost is fine, delaying forcefields would do nothing and protoss already is the most micro reliant race out there.
HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 21:12:18
May 19 2012 21:09 GMT
#1417
On May 20 2012 06:04 kratos-23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:03 HowardRoark wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:01 kratos-23 wrote:
PvZ is so boring

Yeah, Protoss in WoL is a disgrace in game design. But Terran and Zerg are well-designed races. I am happy if they make Protoss weak and we won't have to watch them.

i hope they fix protoss in heart of the swarm

According to Blizzard they won't fix the glaring holes in P game design. Nothing on WG, Colossus and FF. Just to hope they revamp them completely or make them so weak they won't be able to stand a chance in pro games. Balance has nothing to do with this spectator-aspect, I just can't stand watching the infamous ball.
"It is really good to get the double observatory if you want to get the speed and sight range for the observer simultaneously. It's a little bit of an advanced tactic, and by advanced, I mean really fucking bad."
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2012 21:10 GMT
#1418
Cloud kingdom is the map for game 2,

Polt spawning bottom left,

Symbol spawning top right.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 21:10:50
May 19 2012 21:10 GMT
#1419
On May 20 2012 06:09 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:07 Asha` wrote:
Polt's the new Puma. Does well at foreign events but can't win in Korea anymore xD


When did puma ever win in korea? Polt has a super championship with the biggest cash prize...


He was winning games in Korea (GSTL and ESV) before his NASL breakout and everyone thought it was a matter of moments before he was tearing up the GSL. It was really just comparing the way Polt seems to be fine vs Koreans outside Korea but can't string together wins in it lately though =p
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
May 19 2012 21:10 GMT
#1420
Man, if Inori beats Heart and then beats Stephano I can't wait to see how absurd this thread is going to be.
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