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Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
May 19 2012 21:00 GMT
#1341
transfuse on morphing baneling. Sick.
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Thomanson
Profile Joined November 2011
United States215 Posts
May 19 2012 21:00 GMT
#1342
200/200 DRG Socke has 11 Stalkers. Wat.
zerglingrodeo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States910 Posts
May 19 2012 21:00 GMT
#1343
On May 20 2012 05:52 KenChan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:50 SeaSwift wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano.


Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC.


The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.

Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive.


MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano!


As soon as someone uses ELO to back up who the better player is, I stop reading. According to TLPD, San is better than Oz and Genius, and Life is better than Nestea, and Lucifron is better than Ganzi.


Lucifron is better than Ganzi


There is no end to the pure comedy in these Live Report threads.
"This is how philosophers should salute one another: 'Take your time!'' - Wittgenstein
Zeborg
Profile Joined November 2010
107 Posts
May 19 2012 21:00 GMT
#1344
On May 20 2012 05:58 NipponBanzai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:56 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:54 MCDayC wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:51 Hart_Zhen wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano.


Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC.


The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.

Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive.


MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano!


Major LAN wins in 2012 for Stephano - 0
Major LAN wins in 2012 for MC - 2.

MC is the better player.


Major LAN wins in 2012 for Parting - 0

Major LAN wins in 2012 for Thorzain - 1

Thorzain is the better player.


I don't know why I bother talking to such clueless fanboys.

I agree that MC is better than Stephano, but you can't be angry that your terrible metric for player skill is turned against you.


Yes, tournaments won and head to head record is such a poor way to compare players.



Stop using stats to back up your words. We don't like that kind of thing around here.


Quick yes no question for you: if Player A beats Player B in early 2011, does that play a factor in determining who's better in mid 2012 if they're playing an updated (patched) version of the game?
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 19 2012 21:00 GMT
#1345
Symbol/Polt is fantastic.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
May 19 2012 21:00 GMT
#1346
Symbol so strong.
Always smile~
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
May 19 2012 21:00 GMT
#1347
On May 20 2012 05:59 stuchiu wrote:
Did symbol just transfuse a morphing baneling to hold that?



b--b-b-b-boner
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2012 21:00 GMT
#1348
On May 20 2012 05:59 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:58 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:57 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:55 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:54 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:51 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:50 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:49 L3g3nd_ wrote:
[quote]
7:00 5 gate +1 all in for socke, but roach warren almost done for DRG.

Polt going cloak banshee after FE, into third CC.

socke warping in some stalker too, DRG making a lot of ling/roach, DRG in a good position it looks like !

10:00 twil;ight on the way, socke warping in more units but they are just getting picked off. DT shirne and blink incoming.

12:00 Socke sending DT accross the map, socke reveals the blink, no detection yet, finally morphing overseer.

13:00 not much damage from DTs, DRG now 60 food ahead, surely socke cant win

14:00 socke trying to take a 3rd, DRG almost double his supply. infestor ling roach as well, socke in a world of trouble

15:00 DRG taking a 4th, and teching hive, socke getting a collosus den.

Symbol has gone muta, polt taking a 4th CC, greater spire morphing in as polt gets aggressive

17:00 with a 70 food ling DRG attacks the third, good force fields but so many units from DRG, socke only just holds, double robo pumping collosus, but greater spire almost done.

* 3-3 half way done for polt, symbol about to start morphin in broods, polt is pushing into symbol natural

19:00 socke taking a 4th, DRG taking a 5th, both players making a deathball.

Symbol flanks polts army ! but a bunch of marines survive and run into the natural, however broods pop out and polt has to run home.

20:00 socke attacks and the ling inefstor army of DRG cleans it up very easily. DT warp in at the 5th cant kill the hatch, 1 zealot on the field for Socke.

21:00 DRG doubling the supply of socke... going to take a miracle for socke to win.

polt ruinning around everywhere trying to split up the immobile brood army,
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 19 2012 21:00 GMT
#1349
Man, i love seeing Polt play TvZ. Somehow it always translates to sick games.
emis
Profile Joined November 2011
Estonia409 Posts
May 19 2012 21:00 GMT
#1350
Guys, SHUT THE F*** UP with comparing Stephano to other players. Grow the hell up.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 19 2012 21:00 GMT
#1351
On May 20 2012 05:58 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:56 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:54 MCDayC wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:51 Hart_Zhen wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano.


Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC.


The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.

Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive.


MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano!


Major LAN wins in 2012 for Stephano - 0
Major LAN wins in 2012 for MC - 2.

MC is the better player.


Major LAN wins in 2012 for Parting - 0

Major LAN wins in 2012 for Thorzain - 1

Thorzain is the better player.


I don't know why I bother talking to such clueless fanboys.

I agree that MC is better than Stephano, but you can't be angry that your terrible metric for player skill is turned against you.


Yes, tournaments won and head to head record is such a poor way to compare players.

So it's fair to say that Thorzain is better than Parting?


No, because Thorzain won a tournament full of foreigners and Polt/Genius where as MC won over a far tougher player pool in both tournaments.

Parting reached the semis/ro8 of Code S. Which is far harder.

There is zero measure by which Stephano is better than MC. MC surpasses him in overall results, results in 2012, prize money, head to head record, record vs other top Koreans.

He is just ahead by every metric.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 19 2012 21:01 GMT
#1352
this polt symbol game is sick!
www.superbeerbrothers.com
kratos-23
Profile Joined March 2011
303 Posts
May 19 2012 21:01 GMT
#1353
PvZ is so boring
IMHope
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)1241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 21:02:20
May 19 2012 21:01 GMT
#1354
This game is over for socke. Nice try tho.
Should have watched Polt vs Symbol instead.
Jessica Jung, Kim Taeyeon, Kwon Yuri <333
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
May 19 2012 21:01 GMT
#1355
I guess this is what happens when you anger the monster that is DRG.
"Right on" - Morrow
Schmoooopy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States448 Posts
May 19 2012 21:01 GMT
#1356
On May 20 2012 06:00 Fragile51 wrote:
Man, i love seeing Polt play TvZ. Somehow it always translates to sick games.

Agreed. It's so awesome.
Thunderflesh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States382 Posts
May 19 2012 21:01 GMT
#1357
Haha DRG is the "ambassador of pain"
You'll worry less about what people think about you when you realize how seldom they do.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
May 19 2012 21:01 GMT
#1358
holy shit cheesy line by TB rofl
#1 Grubby Fan.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2012 21:01 GMT
#1359
On May 20 2012 06:00 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:59 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:58 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:57 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:55 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:54 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:51 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:50 L3g3nd_ wrote:
[quote]
socke warping in some stalker too, DRG making a lot of ling/roach, DRG in a good position it looks like !

10:00 twil;ight on the way, socke warping in more units but they are just getting picked off. DT shirne and blink incoming.

12:00 Socke sending DT accross the map, socke reveals the blink, no detection yet, finally morphing overseer.

13:00 not much damage from DTs, DRG now 60 food ahead, surely socke cant win

14:00 socke trying to take a 3rd, DRG almost double his supply. infestor ling roach as well, socke in a world of trouble

15:00 DRG taking a 4th, and teching hive, socke getting a collosus den.

Symbol has gone muta, polt taking a 4th CC, greater spire morphing in as polt gets aggressive

17:00 with a 70 food ling DRG attacks the third, good force fields but so many units from DRG, socke only just holds, double robo pumping collosus, but greater spire almost done.

* 3-3 half way done for polt, symbol about to start morphin in broods, polt is pushing into symbol natural

19:00 socke taking a 4th, DRG taking a 5th, both players making a deathball.

Symbol flanks polts army ! but a bunch of marines survive and run into the natural, however broods pop out and polt has to run home.

20:00 socke attacks and the ling inefstor army of DRG cleans it up very easily. DT warp in at the 5th cant kill the hatch, 1 zealot on the field for Socke.

21:00 DRG doubling the supply of socke... going to take a miracle for socke to win.

polt ruinning around everywhere trying to split up the immobile brood army,

24:00 game is over DRG wins, but socke not gg'ing yet. mothership and voids on the way, but the game is 100% over.

symbol and polt trade armies, game time 26 for that game atm
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
May 19 2012 21:01 GMT
#1360
On May 20 2012 06:00 Zeborg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:58 NipponBanzai wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:56 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:54 MCDayC wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:51 Hart_Zhen wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
[quote]

Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC.


The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.

Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive.


MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano!


Major LAN wins in 2012 for Stephano - 0
Major LAN wins in 2012 for MC - 2.

MC is the better player.


Major LAN wins in 2012 for Parting - 0

Major LAN wins in 2012 for Thorzain - 1

Thorzain is the better player.


I don't know why I bother talking to such clueless fanboys.

I agree that MC is better than Stephano, but you can't be angry that your terrible metric for player skill is turned against you.


Yes, tournaments won and head to head record is such a poor way to compare players.



Stop using stats to back up your words. We don't like that kind of thing around here.


Quick yes no question for you: if Player A beats Player B in early 2011, does that play a factor in determining who's better in mid 2012 if they're playing an updated (patched) version of the game?


Obviously not. I'm not saying stephano is better or worse. I have no opinion on that. I just feel that stats aren't irrelevant.
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