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On May 20 2012 05:56 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 05:54 MCDayC wrote:On May 20 2012 05:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:51 Hart_Zhen wrote:On May 20 2012 05:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano. Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC. The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them. Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive. MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano! Major LAN wins in 2012 for Stephano - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for MC - 2. MC is the better player. Major LAN wins in 2012 for Parting - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for Thorzain - 1 Thorzain is the better player. I don't know why I bother talking to such clueless fanboys. I agree that MC is better than Stephano, but you can't be angry that your terrible metric for player skill is turned against you. Yes, tournaments won and head to head record is such a poor way to compare players.
So it's fair to say that Thorzain is better than Parting? 
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On May 20 2012 05:57 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 05:55 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:54 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:51 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:50 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:49 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:48 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:46 L3g3nd_ wrote:
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2:00 13pool vs 13gate, now socke expanding 6 lings on the way to his base, could be in a lot of trouble. 5:00 2 zealots out now, lings cant get into main. third base on the way for drg,+1 and warp gate for socke 7:00 5 gate +1 all in for socke, but roach warren almost done for DRG. Polt going cloak banshee after FE, into third CC. socke warping in some stalker too, DRG making a lot of ling/roach, DRG in a good position it looks like ! 10:00 twil;ight on the way, socke warping in more units but they are just getting picked off. DT shirne and blink incoming. 12:00 Socke sending DT accross the map, socke reveals the blink, no detection yet, finally morphing overseer. 13:00 not much damage from DTs, DRG now 60 food ahead, surely socke cant win 14:00 socke trying to take a 3rd, DRG almost double his supply. infestor ling roach as well, socke in a world of trouble 15:00 DRG taking a 4th, and teching hive, socke getting a collosus den. Symbol has gone muta, polt taking a 4th CC, greater spire morphing in as polt gets aggressive 17:00 with a 70 food ling DRG attacks the third, good force fields but so many units from DRG, socke only just holds, double robo pumping collosus, but greater spire almost done. * 3-3 half way done for polt, symbol about to start morphin in broods, polt is pushing into symbol natural
19:00 socke taking a 4th, DRG taking a 5th, both players making a deathball.
Symbol flanks polts army ! but a bunch of marines survive and run into the natural, however broods pop out and polt has to run home.
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On May 20 2012 05:55 gedatsu wrote:
Dream has played 4 TvZs in a row and his next match will be against the loser of Leenock/Violet. I'm sure he's getting tired of it.
edit: Leenock.
As long as he keeps winning i don't think he cares.
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wtf wolf? who sells popcorn door to door?
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Socke, building minimal units. Heavily outmassed. Will have to be perfect.
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go socke you can do this. I believe
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On May 20 2012 05:58 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 05:56 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:54 MCDayC wrote:On May 20 2012 05:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:51 Hart_Zhen wrote:On May 20 2012 05:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano. Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC. The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them. Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive. MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano! Major LAN wins in 2012 for Stephano - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for MC - 2. MC is the better player. Major LAN wins in 2012 for Parting - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for Thorzain - 1 Thorzain is the better player. I don't know why I bother talking to such clueless fanboys. I agree that MC is better than Stephano, but you can't be angry that your terrible metric for player skill is turned against you. Yes, tournaments won and head to head record is such a poor way to compare players. So it's fair to say that Thorzain is better than Parting?
Context is usually important. Thorzain only had to beat 2 koreans to win dreamhack.
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On May 20 2012 05:56 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 05:54 MCDayC wrote:On May 20 2012 05:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:51 Hart_Zhen wrote:On May 20 2012 05:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano. Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC. The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them. Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive. MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano! Major LAN wins in 2012 for Stephano - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for MC - 2. MC is the better player. Major LAN wins in 2012 for Parting - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for Thorzain - 1 Thorzain is the better player. I don't know why I bother talking to such clueless fanboys. I agree that MC is better than Stephano, but you can't be angry that your terrible metric for player skill is turned against you. Yes, tournaments won and head to head record is such a poor way to compare players.
Offline H2H in 2012 is 2-2.
If you want to count in your personal statistic a game from 12 months ago where Stephano wasn't a pro player and was just a nobody, and a BO1 from 6 months ago as a proof that "MC is better RIGHT NOW", then go on, but you'll just make a fool of yourself.
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I just love watching Polt vs Symbol. So much skill and Blizzard really made TvZ amazing in WoL.
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tvz by far the best matchup to watch, so beautiful
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noooooo..................... socke.............!!!
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On May 20 2012 05:58 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 05:57 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:55 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:54 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:51 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:50 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:49 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:48 L3g3nd_ wrote:
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5:00 2 zealots out now, lings cant get into main. third base on the way for drg,+1 and warp gate for socke 7:00 5 gate +1 all in for socke, but roach warren almost done for DRG. Polt going cloak banshee after FE, into third CC. socke warping in some stalker too, DRG making a lot of ling/roach, DRG in a good position it looks like ! 10:00 twil;ight on the way, socke warping in more units but they are just getting picked off. DT shirne and blink incoming. 12:00 Socke sending DT accross the map, socke reveals the blink, no detection yet, finally morphing overseer. 13:00 not much damage from DTs, DRG now 60 food ahead, surely socke cant win 14:00 socke trying to take a 3rd, DRG almost double his supply. infestor ling roach as well, socke in a world of trouble 15:00 DRG taking a 4th, and teching hive, socke getting a collosus den. Symbol has gone muta, polt taking a 4th CC, greater spire morphing in as polt gets aggressive 17:00 with a 70 food ling DRG attacks the third, good force fields but so many units from DRG, socke only just holds, double robo pumping collosus, but greater spire almost done. * 3-3 half way done for polt, symbol about to start morphin in broods, polt is pushing into symbol natural 19:00 socke taking a 4th, DRG taking a 5th, both players making a deathball. Symbol flanks polts army ! but a bunch of marines survive and run into the natural, however broods pop out and polt has to run home.
20:00 socke attacks and the ling inefstor army of DRG cleans it up very easily. DT warp in at the 5th cant kill the hatch, 1 zealot on the field for Socke.
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Okay ignoring the first Homestory cup, MC has had a perfect record against stephano. Even the IPL with lag MC still won 5-2 or 5-3.
I'm not sure if fanboys are really serious or just trolling. If it's the former then I hope their mentality is only in sc2 and not in life
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On May 20 2012 05:58 Hart_Zhen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 05:56 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:54 MCDayC wrote:On May 20 2012 05:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:51 Hart_Zhen wrote:On May 20 2012 05:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano. Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC. The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them. Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive. MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano! Major LAN wins in 2012 for Stephano - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for MC - 2. MC is the better player. Major LAN wins in 2012 for Parting - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for Thorzain - 1 Thorzain is the better player. I don't know why I bother talking to such clueless fanboys. I agree that MC is better than Stephano, but you can't be angry that your terrible metric for player skill is turned against you. Yes, tournaments won and head to head record is such a poor way to compare players. Offline H2H in 2012 is 2-2. If you want to count in your personal statistic a game from 12 months ago where Stephano wasn't a pro player and was just a nobody, and a BO1 from 6 months ago as a proof that "MC is better RIGHT NOW", then go on, but you'll just make a fool of yourself.
Just a little tip, everyone arguing over non-important shit like this is making a fool of himself.
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On May 20 2012 05:58 NipponBanzai wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 05:58 MCDayC wrote:On May 20 2012 05:56 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:54 MCDayC wrote:On May 20 2012 05:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:51 Hart_Zhen wrote:On May 20 2012 05:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
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Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC. The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them. Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive. MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano! Major LAN wins in 2012 for Stephano - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for MC - 2. MC is the better player. Major LAN wins in 2012 for Parting - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for Thorzain - 1 Thorzain is the better player. I don't know why I bother talking to such clueless fanboys. I agree that MC is better than Stephano, but you can't be angry that your terrible metric for player skill is turned against you. Yes, tournaments won and head to head record is such a poor way to compare players. So it's fair to say that Thorzain is better than Parting? Context is usually important. Thorzain only had to beat 2 koreans to win dreamhack.
Agreed!
Is Socke dead yet, or is he holding on?
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Oh Socke, why would you move out there? 
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On May 20 2012 05:59 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 05:58 NipponBanzai wrote:On May 20 2012 05:58 MCDayC wrote:On May 20 2012 05:56 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:54 MCDayC wrote:On May 20 2012 05:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:51 Hart_Zhen wrote:On May 20 2012 05:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
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The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.
Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive. MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano! Major LAN wins in 2012 for Stephano - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for MC - 2. MC is the better player. Major LAN wins in 2012 for Parting - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for Thorzain - 1 Thorzain is the better player. I don't know why I bother talking to such clueless fanboys. I agree that MC is better than Stephano, but you can't be angry that your terrible metric for player skill is turned against you. Yes, tournaments won and head to head record is such a poor way to compare players. So it's fair to say that Thorzain is better than Parting? Context is usually important. Thorzain only had to beat 2 koreans to win dreamhack. Agreed! Is Socke dead yet, or is he holding on?
Both! :p
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This Polt vs Symbol game is awesome...
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Did symbol just transfuse a morphing baneling to hold that?
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On May 20 2012 05:58 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 05:56 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:54 MCDayC wrote:On May 20 2012 05:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:51 Hart_Zhen wrote:On May 20 2012 05:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano. Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC. The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them. Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive. MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano! Major LAN wins in 2012 for Stephano - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for MC - 2. MC is the better player. Major LAN wins in 2012 for Parting - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for Thorzain - 1 Thorzain is the better player. I don't know why I bother talking to such clueless fanboys. I agree that MC is better than Stephano, but you can't be angry that your terrible metric for player skill is turned against you. Yes, tournaments won and head to head record is such a poor way to compare players. So it's fair to say that Thorzain is better than Parting?
Thorzain has never played Parting, so the head-to-record aeroplane mentioned isn't there.
His stats aren't perfect, but neither is your analogy.
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