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KenChan
Profile Joined January 2012
54 Posts
May 19 2012 20:52 GMT
#1281
On May 20 2012 05:50 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano.


Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC.


The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.

Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive.


MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano!


As soon as someone uses ELO to back up who the better player is, I stop reading. According to TLPD, San is better than Oz and Genius, and Life is better than Nestea, and Lucifron is better than Ganzi.


Lucifron is better than Ganzi
Zeborg
Profile Joined November 2010
107 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 20:52:56
May 19 2012 20:52 GMT
#1282
On May 20 2012 05:51 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:50 Hart_Zhen wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:47 MCDayC wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:46 Hart_Zhen wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:42 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:41 Benjamin99 wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:36 SeaSwift wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:34 Paraiba wrote:
Stephano: Protoss doesn't have many options vs. Z, I think ZvP is imba, etc.
Everyone else: OH YEAH HOW ABOUT YOU PLAY SOME KOREANS FIRST HUH

well, there it is


Yup, Stephano is now 5-10 against MC, including the series they played with all the lag. Other than that, it is 2-5, with this series including his first ever map.


Online dont mean shit:D Stephano beats him when it matters:D


Like at Homestory Cup 2/3 and Blizzard Cup?


You mean the HSC where Stephano was still attending school and wasn't even a full-time pro player?

Oh well, if that counts..

No, he doesn't mean that one.....


He wrote "Homestory Cup 2/3".

Slash in this context means "AND".

Which means he implied to include that HSC where Stephano wasn't a pro player as a proof that MC consistently beats Stephano.


He's beaten Stephano 4 out of the 5 times they've played and 10 out of the 15 games.



Some games are less relevant than others, but I guess it's okay to ignore that if it improves your point? I could point to Stephano beating MKP in November, but that doesn't mean anything now does it?
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 19 2012 20:52 GMT
#1283
On May 20 2012 05:51 Hart_Zhen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano.


Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC.


The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.

Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive.


MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano!


Major LAN wins in 2012 for Stephano - 0
Major LAN wins in 2012 for MC - 2.

MC is the better player.


Major LAN wins in 2012 for Parting - 0

Major LAN wins in 2012 for Thorzain - 1

Thorzain is the better player.


I don't know why I bother talking to such clueless fanboys.
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
May 19 2012 20:52 GMT
#1284
On May 20 2012 05:52 KenChan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:50 SeaSwift wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano.


Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC.


The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.

Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive.


MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano!


As soon as someone uses ELO to back up who the better player is, I stop reading. According to TLPD, San is better than Oz and Genius, and Life is better than Nestea, and Lucifron is better than Ganzi.


Lucifron is better than Ganzi



The same Lucifron that lost 3-1 to MVPfinale today? Haha.
Hart_Zhen
Profile Joined May 2012
62 Posts
May 19 2012 20:52 GMT
#1285
On May 20 2012 05:51 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:50 Hart_Zhen wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:47 MCDayC wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:46 Hart_Zhen wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:42 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:41 Benjamin99 wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:36 SeaSwift wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:34 Paraiba wrote:
Stephano: Protoss doesn't have many options vs. Z, I think ZvP is imba, etc.
Everyone else: OH YEAH HOW ABOUT YOU PLAY SOME KOREANS FIRST HUH

well, there it is


Yup, Stephano is now 5-10 against MC, including the series they played with all the lag. Other than that, it is 2-5, with this series including his first ever map.


Online dont mean shit:D Stephano beats him when it matters:D


Like at Homestory Cup 2/3 and Blizzard Cup?


You mean the HSC where Stephano was still attending school and wasn't even a full-time pro player?

Oh well, if that counts..

No, he doesn't mean that one.....


He wrote "Homestory Cup 2/3".

Slash in this context means "AND".

Which means he implied to include that HSC where Stephano wasn't a pro player as a proof that MC consistently beats Stephano.


He's beaten Stephano 4 out of the 5 times they've played and 10 out of the 15 games.



You're still wrong and you're avoiding the subject.

I asked you a question.

Did you mean the HSC2 where Stephano wasn't a fulltime pro player and was still attending school?
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2012 20:53 GMT
#1286
On May 20 2012 05:51 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:50 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:49 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:48 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:46 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:45 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Game 3 of socke v DRG on metropolis, cross spawn with DRG bottom left socke top right, socke going for an inbase pylon first!

Polt v Symbol game 1 on TDA, polt top left, symbol top right

2:00 13pool vs 13gate, now socke expanding 6 lings on the way to his base, could be in a lot of trouble.

5:00 2 zealots out now, lings cant get into main. third base on the way for drg,+1 and warp gate for socke

7:00 5 gate +1 all in for socke, but roach warren almost done for DRG.

Polt going cloak banshee after FE, into third CC.

socke warping in some stalker too, DRG making a lot of ling/roach, DRG in a good position it looks like !

10:00 twil;ight on the way, socke warping in more units but they are just getting picked off. DT shirne and blink incoming.

12:00 Socke sending DT accross the map, socke reveals the blink, no detection yet, finally morphing overseer.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
May 19 2012 20:53 GMT
#1287
On May 20 2012 05:49 power-overwhelming wrote:
So because Stephano finally won his first ever series against MC, he is now better than him? and is now "beating him all the time?" lol.. This series was the first time MC lost a map to stephano. In the past it was all 2-0's.


The fanboys are obviously exagerating the meaning of this win, but you have to realize that from all your 2-0's, only the one from the HSC 4 and the game in the Blizzard cup are really relevant, since Stephano was far from the level he has now in the games before.

So I would still say it has been almost even in recent confrontations.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 19 2012 20:53 GMT
#1288
Agh, bad situation for socke. But, against all odds, I hope he can manage to turn the tables.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 19 2012 20:53 GMT
#1289
On May 20 2012 05:52 KenChan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:50 SeaSwift wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano.


Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC.


The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.

Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive.


MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano!


As soon as someone uses ELO to back up who the better player is, I stop reading. According to TLPD, San is better than Oz and Genius, and Life is better than Nestea, and Lucifron is better than Ganzi.


Lucifron is better than Ganzi


hahahaha.

no seriously.

you fanboys are killing me here.
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
May 19 2012 20:53 GMT
#1290
On May 20 2012 05:52 KenChan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:50 SeaSwift wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano.


Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC.


The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.

Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive.


MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano!


As soon as someone uses ELO to back up who the better player is, I stop reading. According to TLPD, San is better than Oz and Genius, and Life is better than Nestea, and Lucifron is better than Ganzi.


Lucifron is better than Ganzi


That`s just a flat out ridiculous thing to say lol
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2012 20:53 GMT
#1291
On May 20 2012 05:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:51 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:50 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:49 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:48 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:46 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:45 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Game 3 of socke v DRG on metropolis, cross spawn with DRG bottom left socke top right, socke going for an inbase pylon first!

Polt v Symbol game 1 on TDA, polt top left, symbol top right

2:00 13pool vs 13gate, now socke expanding 6 lings on the way to his base, could be in a lot of trouble.

5:00 2 zealots out now, lings cant get into main. third base on the way for drg,+1 and warp gate for socke

7:00 5 gate +1 all in for socke, but roach warren almost done for DRG.

Polt going cloak banshee after FE, into third CC.

socke warping in some stalker too, DRG making a lot of ling/roach, DRG in a good position it looks like !

10:00 twil;ight on the way, socke warping in more units but they are just getting picked off. DT shirne and blink incoming.

12:00 Socke sending DT accross the map, socke reveals the blink, no detection yet, finally morphing overseer.

13:00 not much damage from DTs, DRG now 60 food ahead, surely socke cant win
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
May 19 2012 20:53 GMT
#1292
On May 20 2012 05:52 KenChan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:50 SeaSwift wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano.


Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC.


The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.

Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive.


MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano!


As soon as someone uses ELO to back up who the better player is, I stop reading. According to TLPD, San is better than Oz and Genius, and Life is better than Nestea, and Lucifron is better than Ganzi.


Lucifron is better than Ganzi


-____________-
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
May 19 2012 20:53 GMT
#1293
what a way for European underdogs to make an impression lol.

Bly defeating HuK, Tefel defeating Select and Ret, Goody defeating MMA :D
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
May 19 2012 20:53 GMT
#1294
On May 20 2012 05:51 Derrida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:50 Derrida wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:48 Derrida wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:46 Derrida wrote:
DRG - Socke Game 3 on Metropolis, DRG on 9 o'clock and Socke on 3 o'clock.

3:00
13 pool by DRG.
1 gate expand by Socke.


Socke walls of expansion with cybernetics and a forge, holds in time versus early 6 ling pressure by DRG. 1 cannon built by Socke. Chronoboosting +1 attack. 2 gasses + roach warren down by DRG.


8:00

Proxy pylon near DRG's 3rd, zealot pressure. Creep is not connected to 3rd yet.
Lings & roaches streaming as stalkers are warped to support zealots in the battle for the 3rd.


DRG repels the push, overwhelming the stalkers with lings & roaches. Dark Shrine down for Socke.


2 DTs warped in, DRG sees their blur in time to morph an overseer.
#1 Grubby Fan.
KenChan
Profile Joined January 2012
54 Posts
May 19 2012 20:54 GMT
#1295
On May 20 2012 05:52 NipponBanzai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:52 KenChan wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:50 SeaSwift wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano.


Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC.


The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.

Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive.


MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano!


As soon as someone uses ELO to back up who the better player is, I stop reading. According to TLPD, San is better than Oz and Genius, and Life is better than Nestea, and Lucifron is better than Ganzi.


Lucifron is better than Ganzi



The same Lucifron that lost 3-1 to MVPfinale today? Haha.


Ye the one that 4-0'd thorzain
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2012 20:54 GMT
#1296
On May 20 2012 05:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:51 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:50 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:49 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:48 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:46 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:45 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Game 3 of socke v DRG on metropolis, cross spawn with DRG bottom left socke top right, socke going for an inbase pylon first!

Polt v Symbol game 1 on TDA, polt top left, symbol top right

2:00 13pool vs 13gate, now socke expanding 6 lings on the way to his base, could be in a lot of trouble.

5:00 2 zealots out now, lings cant get into main. third base on the way for drg,+1 and warp gate for socke

7:00 5 gate +1 all in for socke, but roach warren almost done for DRG.

Polt going cloak banshee after FE, into third CC.

socke warping in some stalker too, DRG making a lot of ling/roach, DRG in a good position it looks like !

10:00 twil;ight on the way, socke warping in more units but they are just getting picked off. DT shirne and blink incoming.

12:00 Socke sending DT accross the map, socke reveals the blink, no detection yet, finally morphing overseer.

13:00 not much damage from DTs, DRG now 60 food ahead, surely socke cant win

14:00 socke trying to take a 3rd, DRG almost double his supply. infestor ling roach as well, socke in a world of trouble
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 19 2012 20:54 GMT
#1297
On May 20 2012 05:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:51 Hart_Zhen wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano.


Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC.


The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.

Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive.


MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano!


Major LAN wins in 2012 for Stephano - 0
Major LAN wins in 2012 for MC - 2.

MC is the better player.


Major LAN wins in 2012 for Parting - 0

Major LAN wins in 2012 for Thorzain - 1

Thorzain is the better player.


I don't know why I bother talking to such clueless fanboys.


It's because you're a clueless fanboy.

MC has better success in 2012, but better success =/= better skill. When comparing skill, people only care about current skill, and you're only able to see that from how they play.
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
May 19 2012 20:54 GMT
#1298
On May 20 2012 05:54 KenChan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:52 NipponBanzai wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:52 KenChan wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:50 SeaSwift wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano.


Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC.


The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.

Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive.


MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano!


As soon as someone uses ELO to back up who the better player is, I stop reading. According to TLPD, San is better than Oz and Genius, and Life is better than Nestea, and Lucifron is better than Ganzi.


Lucifron is better than Ganzi



The same Lucifron that lost 3-1 to MVPfinale today? Haha.


Ye the one that 4-0'd thorzain


No doubt he's good but better than the Ganz?!?! No way.
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
May 19 2012 20:54 GMT
#1299
haha apollo

i feel the same way about that movie :p
byah!
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
May 19 2012 20:54 GMT
#1300
On May 20 2012 05:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:51 Hart_Zhen wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano.


Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC.


The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.

Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive.


MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano!


Major LAN wins in 2012 for Stephano - 0
Major LAN wins in 2012 for MC - 2.

MC is the better player.


Major LAN wins in 2012 for Parting - 0

Major LAN wins in 2012 for Thorzain - 1

Thorzain is the better player.


I don't know why I bother talking to such clueless fanboys.

I agree that MC is better than Stephano, but you can't be angry that your terrible metric for player skill is turned against you.
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