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On May 20 2012 05:54 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 05:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:51 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:50 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:49 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:48 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:46 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:45 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Game 3 of socke v DRG on metropolis, cross spawn with DRG bottom left socke top right, socke going for an inbase pylon first!
Polt v Symbol game 1 on TDA, polt top left, symbol top right 2:00 13pool vs 13gate, now socke expanding 6 lings on the way to his base, could be in a lot of trouble. 5:00 2 zealots out now, lings cant get into main. third base on the way for drg,+1 and warp gate for socke 7:00 5 gate +1 all in for socke, but roach warren almost done for DRG. Polt going cloak banshee after FE, into third CC. socke warping in some stalker too, DRG making a lot of ling/roach, DRG in a good position it looks like ! 10:00 twil;ight on the way, socke warping in more units but they are just getting picked off. DT shirne and blink incoming. 12:00 Socke sending DT accross the map, socke reveals the blink, no detection yet, finally morphing overseer. 13:00 not much damage from DTs, DRG now 60 food ahead, surely socke cant win 14:00 socke trying to take a 3rd, DRG almost double his supply. infestor ling roach as well, socke in a world of trouble
15:00 DRG taking a 4th, and teching hive, socke getting a collosus den.
Symbol has gone muta, polt taking a 4th CC, greater spire morphing in as polt gets aggressive
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Socke had a very good run, as always  Well played !
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It really sucks that TL is so eager to ban people for so many things and yet posters who continuously post absolute nonsense are free to spread their lunacy all over the forums ad infinitum.
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Violet won again, this time against Leenock.
Seriously, I'm always impressed by how well Violet is doing at live event in every match-up, although he basically only train with foreigner. If I'm not wrong, he's still not back to Korea right?
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whoa, violet beat leenock?
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Why's everyone dickwaving about how good/bad other players are? There's games being played people, damn.
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On May 20 2012 05:52 KenChan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 05:50 SeaSwift wrote:On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano. Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC. The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them. Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive. MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano! As soon as someone uses ELO to back up who the better player is, I stop reading. According to TLPD, San is better than Oz and Genius, and Life is better than Nestea, and Lucifron is better than Ganzi. Lucifron is better than Ganzi
That's a joke right?
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Dream has played 4 TvZs in a row and his next match will be against the loser of Leenock/Violet. I'm sure he's getting tired of it.
edit: Leenock.
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The casting in Polt vs Symbol :/
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On May 20 2012 05:54 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 05:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:51 Hart_Zhen wrote:On May 20 2012 05:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano. Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC. The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them. Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive. MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano! Major LAN wins in 2012 for Stephano - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for MC - 2. MC is the better player. Major LAN wins in 2012 for Parting - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for Thorzain - 1 Thorzain is the better player. I don't know why I bother talking to such clueless fanboys. It's because you're a clueless fanboy.  MC has better success in 2012, but better success =/= better skill. When comparing skill, people only care about current skill, and you're only able to see that from how they play.
MC's skill level is really hard to gauge, because he can beat anyone (he is one of only 3 Protoss players to beat MKP in a series this year, the others being Squirtle and Parting - he also 3-0ed DRG) and also lose to anyone (a ridiculously poor record vs Ganzi, somehow going 1-3 vs DRG the very next day).
MC reaches higher peaks, but plumbs lower depths over the course of a few hours than Stephano. Stephano is probably more consistent, MC has more results, MC has a better record vs other Koreans...
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DAT ENGAGEMENT
Symbol so good with his burrow play
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On May 20 2012 05:54 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 05:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:51 Hart_Zhen wrote:On May 20 2012 05:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano. Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC. The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them. Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive. MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano! Major LAN wins in 2012 for Stephano - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for MC - 2. MC is the better player. Major LAN wins in 2012 for Parting - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for Thorzain - 1 Thorzain is the better player. I don't know why I bother talking to such clueless fanboys. I agree that MC is better than Stephano, but you can't be angry that your terrible metric for player skill is turned against you.
Yes, tournaments won and head to head record is such a poor way to compare players.
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that the german "mauer"!!! Oh wait, that was not right...
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Wow!? Symbol with the best tier two play I have seen!! Gives him a much better transission!!!
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On May 20 2012 05:55 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 05:54 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:51 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:50 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:49 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:48 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:46 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 05:45 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Game 3 of socke v DRG on metropolis, cross spawn with DRG bottom left socke top right, socke going for an inbase pylon first!
Polt v Symbol game 1 on TDA, polt top left, symbol top right 2:00 13pool vs 13gate, now socke expanding 6 lings on the way to his base, could be in a lot of trouble. 5:00 2 zealots out now, lings cant get into main. third base on the way for drg,+1 and warp gate for socke 7:00 5 gate +1 all in for socke, but roach warren almost done for DRG. Polt going cloak banshee after FE, into third CC. socke warping in some stalker too, DRG making a lot of ling/roach, DRG in a good position it looks like ! 10:00 twil;ight on the way, socke warping in more units but they are just getting picked off. DT shirne and blink incoming. 12:00 Socke sending DT accross the map, socke reveals the blink, no detection yet, finally morphing overseer. 13:00 not much damage from DTs, DRG now 60 food ahead, surely socke cant win 14:00 socke trying to take a 3rd, DRG almost double his supply. infestor ling roach as well, socke in a world of trouble 15:00 DRG taking a 4th, and teching hive, socke getting a collosus den. Symbol has gone muta, polt taking a 4th CC, greater spire morphing in as polt gets aggressive
17:00 with a 70 food ling DRG attacks the third, good force fields but so many units from DRG, socke only just holds, double robo pumping collosus, but greater spire almost done.
* 3-3 half way done for polt, symbol about to start morphin in broods, polt is pushing into symbol natural
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On May 20 2012 05:57 Cereb wrote:
Wow!? Symbol with the best tier two play I have seen!! Gives him a much better transission!!!
Transition*
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I love these discussions in LR threads. There's absolutely nothing to gain yet you all keep arguing as if it's the most important thing in your life.
TL <3
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On May 20 2012 05:56 Hakanfrog wrote:
The casting in Polt vs Symbol :/
Agreed. I like Wheat, but I don't really like Wolf. Probably just my personal preference here.
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One medivac per marine and they never die.
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On May 20 2012 05:56 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 05:54 MCDayC wrote:On May 20 2012 05:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:51 Hart_Zhen wrote:On May 20 2012 05:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano. Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC. The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them. Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive. MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano! Major LAN wins in 2012 for Stephano - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for MC - 2. MC is the better player. Major LAN wins in 2012 for Parting - 0 Major LAN wins in 2012 for Thorzain - 1 Thorzain is the better player. I don't know why I bother talking to such clueless fanboys. I agree that MC is better than Stephano, but you can't be angry that your terrible metric for player skill is turned against you. Yes, tournaments won and head to head record is such a poor way to compare players.
Stop using stats to back up your words. We don't like that kind of thing around here.
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