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Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 19 2012 20:49 GMT
#1261
On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano.


Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC.


The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.

Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive.


MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano!


Major LAN wins in 2012 for Stephano - 0
Major LAN wins in 2012 for MC - 2.

MC is the better player.
Baalthersar
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany239 Posts
May 19 2012 20:49 GMT
#1262
Go Socke
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2012 20:49 GMT
#1263
On May 20 2012 05:48 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:46 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:45 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Game 3 of socke v DRG on metropolis, cross spawn with DRG bottom left socke top right, socke going for an inbase pylon first!

Polt v Symbol game 1 on TDA, polt top left, symbol top right

2:00 13pool vs 13gate, now socke expanding 6 lings on the way to his base, could be in a lot of trouble.

5:00 2 zealots out now, lings cant get into main. third base on the way for drg,+1 and warp gate for socke

7:00 5 gate +1 all in for socke, but roach warren almost done for DRG.

Polt going cloak banshee after FE, into third CC.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
May 19 2012 20:49 GMT
#1264
So because Stephano finally won his first ever series against MC, he is now better than him? and is now "beating him all the time?" lol.. This series was the first time MC lost a map to stephano. In the past it was all 2-0's.
Kkxtrouble
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil575 Posts
May 19 2012 20:49 GMT
#1265
On May 20 2012 05:48 PooLsharK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:47 Kkxtrouble wrote:
LOL Bayern.

(((

Don't worry I'm sure Bayern will win.
I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 19 2012 20:49 GMT
#1266
On May 20 2012 05:47 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:46 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano.


Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC.


The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.

Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive.


Polt beat Stephano the last time they played.


Stephano beat Polt consecutively at Lone Star.


Which isn't the last time they played. Polt knocked him out of MLG a week later.
Schmoooopy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States448 Posts
May 19 2012 20:49 GMT
#1267
On May 20 2012 05:48 MCDayC wrote:
Unlucky bayern....

also, who do we want to win, Polt or Symbol?

Polt! Hoping for a Stephano vs. Polt winners bracket finals.
Hart_Zhen
Profile Joined May 2012
62 Posts
May 19 2012 20:50 GMT
#1268
On May 20 2012 05:47 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:46 Hart_Zhen wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:42 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:41 Benjamin99 wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:36 SeaSwift wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:34 Paraiba wrote:
Stephano: Protoss doesn't have many options vs. Z, I think ZvP is imba, etc.
Everyone else: OH YEAH HOW ABOUT YOU PLAY SOME KOREANS FIRST HUH

well, there it is


Yup, Stephano is now 5-10 against MC, including the series they played with all the lag. Other than that, it is 2-5, with this series including his first ever map.


Online dont mean shit:D Stephano beats him when it matters:D


Like at Homestory Cup 2/3 and Blizzard Cup?


You mean the HSC where Stephano was still attending school and wasn't even a full-time pro player?

Oh well, if that counts..

No, he doesn't mean that one.....


He wrote "Homestory Cup 2/3".

Slash in this context means "AND".

Which means he implied to include that HSC where Stephano wasn't a pro player as a proof that MC consistently beats Stephano.
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
May 19 2012 20:50 GMT
#1269
what's going on in leenock vs violet?

Is violet still doing his awful 1 base roach expand build?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 19 2012 20:50 GMT
#1270
On May 20 2012 05:49 power-overwhelming wrote:
So because Stephano finally won his first ever series against MC, he is now better than him? and is now "beating him all the time?" lol.. This series was the first time MC lost a map to stephano. In the past it was all 2-0's.

Just accept that SC2 fans have the shortest memories in the world and LR threads become easier to read.
Glorious SEA doto
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2012 20:50 GMT
#1271
On May 20 2012 05:49 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:48 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:46 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:45 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Game 3 of socke v DRG on metropolis, cross spawn with DRG bottom left socke top right, socke going for an inbase pylon first!

Polt v Symbol game 1 on TDA, polt top left, symbol top right

2:00 13pool vs 13gate, now socke expanding 6 lings on the way to his base, could be in a lot of trouble.

5:00 2 zealots out now, lings cant get into main. third base on the way for drg,+1 and warp gate for socke

7:00 5 gate +1 all in for socke, but roach warren almost done for DRG.

Polt going cloak banshee after FE, into third CC.

socke warping in some stalker too, DRG making a lot of ling/roach, DRG in a good position it looks like !
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
May 19 2012 20:50 GMT
#1272
On May 20 2012 05:48 Derrida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:46 Derrida wrote:
DRG - Socke Game 3 on Metropolis, DRG on 9 o'clock and Socke on 3 o'clock.

3:00
13 pool by DRG.
1 gate expand by Socke.


Socke walls of expansion with cybernetics and a forge, holds in time versus early 6 ling pressure by DRG. 1 cannon built by Socke. Chronoboosting +1 attack. 2 gasses + roach warren down by DRG.


8:00

Proxy pylon near DRG's 3rd, zealot pressure. Creep is not connected to 3rd yet.
Lings & roaches streaming as stalkers are warped to support zealots in the battle for the 3rd.
#1 Grubby Fan.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
May 19 2012 20:50 GMT
#1273
On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano.


Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC.


The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.

Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive.


MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano!


As soon as someone uses ELO to back up who the better player is, I stop reading. According to TLPD, San is better than Oz and Genius, and Life is better than Nestea, and Lucifron is better than Ganzi.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 19 2012 20:51 GMT
#1274
On May 20 2012 05:50 Hart_Zhen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:47 MCDayC wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:46 Hart_Zhen wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:42 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:41 Benjamin99 wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:36 SeaSwift wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:34 Paraiba wrote:
Stephano: Protoss doesn't have many options vs. Z, I think ZvP is imba, etc.
Everyone else: OH YEAH HOW ABOUT YOU PLAY SOME KOREANS FIRST HUH

well, there it is


Yup, Stephano is now 5-10 against MC, including the series they played with all the lag. Other than that, it is 2-5, with this series including his first ever map.


Online dont mean shit:D Stephano beats him when it matters:D


Like at Homestory Cup 2/3 and Blizzard Cup?


You mean the HSC where Stephano was still attending school and wasn't even a full-time pro player?

Oh well, if that counts..

No, he doesn't mean that one.....


He wrote "Homestory Cup 2/3".

Slash in this context means "AND".

Which means he implied to include that HSC where Stephano wasn't a pro player as a proof that MC consistently beats Stephano.


He's beaten Stephano 4 out of the 5 times they've played and 10 out of the 15 games.

power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
May 19 2012 20:51 GMT
#1275
MC HAS consistently beat stephano. This is his first ever series loss to him. Lol fanboys can be so misguided
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2012 20:51 GMT
#1276
On May 20 2012 05:50 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:49 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:48 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:46 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:45 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Game 3 of socke v DRG on metropolis, cross spawn with DRG bottom left socke top right, socke going for an inbase pylon first!

Polt v Symbol game 1 on TDA, polt top left, symbol top right

2:00 13pool vs 13gate, now socke expanding 6 lings on the way to his base, could be in a lot of trouble.

5:00 2 zealots out now, lings cant get into main. third base on the way for drg,+1 and warp gate for socke

7:00 5 gate +1 all in for socke, but roach warren almost done for DRG.

Polt going cloak banshee after FE, into third CC.

socke warping in some stalker too, DRG making a lot of ling/roach, DRG in a good position it looks like !

10:00 twil;ight on the way, socke warping in more units but they are just getting picked off. DT shirne and blink incoming.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
May 19 2012 20:51 GMT
#1277
Rooting for Polt so we do not get ZvZ final.
"It is really good to get the double observatory if you want to get the speed and sight range for the observer simultaneously. It's a little bit of an advanced tactic, and by advanced, I mean really fucking bad."
Thunderflesh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States382 Posts
May 19 2012 20:51 GMT
#1278
Boss defense from DRG
You'll worry less about what people think about you when you realize how seldom they do.
Hart_Zhen
Profile Joined May 2012
62 Posts
May 19 2012 20:51 GMT
#1279
On May 20 2012 05:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:47 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:44 NeonFox wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:40 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:39 The_Darkness wrote:
Stephano was 6-1 v. jyp and people still thought MC was better than him. Although this victory wasn't necessary since Mc isn't probably even top 5 in pvz, it will further cement Stephano as the great foreign hope. WP Stephano.


Stephano is 5-10 vs MC. MC is better than him (as evidenced by MC's two major LAN wins this year) but obviously Stephano is no scrub and is capable of beating MC.


The important part here is the reversal in score, it's like the whole Polt vs Stephano story, he used to get crushed by Polt all the time, then he won some, and now he wins most of them.

Stephano lost to MC all the time before, the two latest records are 5-3 for MC and 2-0 for Stephano. Now I still think MC is better overall than Stephano but the rate at which that zerg player adapts and improves is impressive.


MC isn't at all better than stephano. He squeaked out that FC win after Stephano was coming off a 10 day lay off. Stephano is 6-1 against JYP, who is far better at zvp than MC. Stephano is the better player, IMO and this is evidenced by his having a higher Elo in the matchup. Having taken down MC Stephano will trust himself and stomp MC just like all of the other protosses - at least that's what I predict. Go Stephano!


Major LAN wins in 2012 for Stephano - 0
Major LAN wins in 2012 for MC - 2.

MC is the better player.


Major LAN wins in 2012 for Parting - 0

Major LAN wins in 2012 for Thorzain - 1

Thorzain is the better player.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
May 19 2012 20:51 GMT
#1280
On May 20 2012 05:50 Derrida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 05:48 Derrida wrote:
On May 20 2012 05:46 Derrida wrote:
DRG - Socke Game 3 on Metropolis, DRG on 9 o'clock and Socke on 3 o'clock.

3:00
13 pool by DRG.
1 gate expand by Socke.


Socke walls of expansion with cybernetics and a forge, holds in time versus early 6 ling pressure by DRG. 1 cannon built by Socke. Chronoboosting +1 attack. 2 gasses + roach warren down by DRG.


8:00

Proxy pylon near DRG's 3rd, zealot pressure. Creep is not connected to 3rd yet.
Lings & roaches streaming as stalkers are warped to support zealots in the battle for the 3rd.


DRG repels the push, overwhelming the stalkers with lings & roaches. Dark Shrine down for Socke.
#1 Grubby Fan.
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