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milesfacade
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom799 Posts
May 13 2012 14:56 GMT
#81
On May 13 2012 23:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 23:50 TheCheapSkate wrote:
And this is why you dont build hydras

please dont just jump on the hydra hate bandwagon, the correct response in this situation was to go hydra. monster just slipped up on his macro (injects/no macro hatch - i think no macro hatch at least).

If you KNOW your oppoennt isnt going collosus (say hes doing a blink all in, like this game) hydra is 100% the correct choice.


I agree. However, I don't even think macro was that much of a problem, he just kept engaging too far away from reinforcements and didn't retreat when he had a much small army than the blink stalkers. You have to engage blink stalkers with far superior numbers otherwise you get diminishing returns.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 13 2012 14:56 GMT
#82
oh man looks like a 5th win is on the cards... xD
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
May 13 2012 14:57 GMT
#83
Cool I like seeing stargate play in PvT.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
May 13 2012 14:57 GMT
#84
On May 13 2012 23:52 Notfragile wrote:
Wow. How interesting of a micro battle. Wow...
What an interesting strategy.
How interesting of a match-up.
3 base vs 2 base with better econ, spines/hydras/lings/roaches but no... blink stalker ftw.

Edit: Sorry for the whine but... I can't stand this unit. Every other unit has a "counter" of sorts. Blink stalker's only counter is when blink is not yet upgraded.


Blink stalkers' only counter is anything but Hydras.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 13 2012 14:59 GMT
#85
On May 13 2012 23:56 milesfacade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 23:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 13 2012 23:50 TheCheapSkate wrote:
And this is why you dont build hydras

please dont just jump on the hydra hate bandwagon, the correct response in this situation was to go hydra. monster just slipped up on his macro (injects/no macro hatch - i think no macro hatch at least).

If you KNOW your oppoennt isnt going collosus (say hes doing a blink all in, like this game) hydra is 100% the correct choice.


I agree. However, I don't even think macro was that much of a problem, he just kept engaging too far away from reinforcements and didn't retreat when he had a much small army than the blink stalkers. You have to engage blink stalkers with far superior numbers otherwise you get diminishing returns.

i agree with the later part of your post, the first part, i dont know. he did seem to play well but i think the macro was the issue, roaches and lings are really cheap, if he could have had 800-300 more units, that is sooo many, especially in such a close situation.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 15:00:17
May 13 2012 15:00 GMT
#86
please go DT, would be so good right now

EDIT: nvm HT could choice
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aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
May 13 2012 15:00 GMT
#87
these games look like throwbacks O_O
11 min and no expos
can i get my estro logo back pls
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38156 Posts
May 13 2012 15:00 GMT
#88
1 base storm
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
May 13 2012 15:00 GMT
#89
storm of 1 base o0
milesfacade
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom799 Posts
May 13 2012 15:01 GMT
#90
On May 13 2012 23:59 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 23:56 milesfacade wrote:
On May 13 2012 23:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 13 2012 23:50 TheCheapSkate wrote:
And this is why you dont build hydras

please dont just jump on the hydra hate bandwagon, the correct response in this situation was to go hydra. monster just slipped up on his macro (injects/no macro hatch - i think no macro hatch at least).

If you KNOW your oppoennt isnt going collosus (say hes doing a blink all in, like this game) hydra is 100% the correct choice.


I agree. However, I don't even think macro was that much of a problem, he just kept engaging too far away from reinforcements and didn't retreat when he had a much small army than the blink stalkers. You have to engage blink stalkers with far superior numbers otherwise you get diminishing returns.

i agree with the later part of your post, the first part, i dont know. he did seem to play well but i think the macro was the issue, roaches and lings are really cheap, if he could have had 800-300 more units, that is sooo many, especially in such a close situation.


Oh for sure, I just think good engagements could have made up for the slip-ups in macro.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
May 13 2012 15:04 GMT
#91
gtg

Can someone update LP please?
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
May 13 2012 15:05 GMT
#92
No clue how Seed lost this game. Full scouting info.... I think he expanded too late / didn't use sentries to hold ramps / waste time,
IMNasty
Profile Joined February 2012
663 Posts
May 13 2012 15:05 GMT
#93
lol, crossfire
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38156 Posts
May 13 2012 15:05 GMT
#94
Clutch tank targetting on high templars winning that for Noblesse.

glad MVP one a game, would have been one of the most boring all kills ever if Seed cleaned up xD
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?36969 Posts
May 13 2012 15:05 GMT
#95
Noblesse with DAT patience Oo
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 15:06:17
May 13 2012 15:05 GMT
#96
Would have to be one of the worst games I've seen so far in 2012
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 13 2012 15:06 GMT
#97
there was a sick clutch HT snipe by tanks in that game that sealed the deal, very nice micro from noblesse : )
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 13 2012 15:06 GMT
#98
would have been hard to AK DRG too though, if he comes out
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
May 13 2012 15:07 GMT
#99
Tanks ftw, Terran's should just make more tanks in general. If i was Terran I'd go pure Tank raven, regardless of matchup.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 13 2012 15:07 GMT
#100
On May 14 2012 00:05 Mycl wrote:
Would have to be one of the worst games I've seen so far in 2012

personally i enjoyed it a lot, low econ =/= boring. low econ games are more epic, but maybe thats the wc3 player in me talking
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
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