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corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
May 12 2012 03:35 GMT
#101
forgetting baneling speed like this.. ;;
http://www.twitch.tv/corpsep0se
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
May 12 2012 03:41 GMT
#102
Wellplayed by Targa
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Hulavuta
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1252 Posts
May 12 2012 03:41 GMT
#103
"The Shamwow Zerg"
Done with Team Liquid for a while. Don't expect to find me here.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8230 Posts
May 12 2012 03:45 GMT
#104
Why is Huk given a walk over but Strelok's match not?
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
May 12 2012 03:50 GMT
#105
On May 12 2012 12:45 geokilla wrote:
Why is Huk given a walk over but Strelok's match not?


Strelok was given the walkover.
freeshooter
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States477 Posts
May 12 2012 06:09 GMT
#106
Feels like a lot of players haven't been showing up to their matches lately. I don't know if they think NASL is a joke or something...
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
May 12 2012 11:48 GMT
#107
Someone on Sen's facebook said he was sick and therefore overslept.
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
May 12 2012 12:07 GMT
#108
I think players should be DQ after 3 no-shows.

1st a warning, 2nd a fine (on top of not getting the money for the match, a fine of whatever prize they end up winning), 3rd a 2 season DQ.

Catz is one that would be out already.

Others should be pretty close to being tossed out.
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
May 12 2012 12:28 GMT
#109
Isn't there already a fine? I thought it had been mentioned previously that the players/team put up a bond to play.
Strelok
Profile Joined January 2006
Ukraine320 Posts
May 12 2012 12:46 GMT
#110
Players have big money penalty for no-shows, that's why i came yesterday even though i have terrible flue.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4720 Posts
May 12 2012 12:56 GMT
#111
"MaNa was not able to show up for his scheduled match time against Strelok, therefore Strelok receives a 2-0 walkover."
Its so not like Mana, i guess its because of exams he had recently.

Pathetic Greta hater.
Doomwish
Profile Joined July 2011
438 Posts
May 12 2012 17:07 GMT
#112
so many walkovers in this tourney
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
May 12 2012 17:23 GMT
#113
On May 12 2012 21:07 Jotoco wrote:
I think players should be DQ after 3 no-shows.

1st a warning, 2nd a fine (on top of not getting the money for the match, a fine of whatever prize they end up winning), 3rd a 2 season DQ.

Catz is one that would be out already.

Others should be pretty close to being tossed out.


Or you can come up with a format that doesn't require players to show up for the games they have no competitive motivation to play - by not having these kinds of games.

Just have 4 player qualifier groups in ODT format and show one group every broadcasting day. The players only have a commitment to show up once - the day their group is being played - and every series they play can lead to qualification for the final event.

It's easier and cheaper for NASL, for the players, and viewers get better games and more excitement out of them. Everyone wins. The way they've been doing things so far is pretty much based on the rationale of "we want to do it this way"... even though there's no advantages that I can see to doing it their way.

The way it's been done so far, if a player is down 0-3 or 1-4 in NASL, even with the prize money for each series it's hard to find motivation to show up. And even if he does show up, it's almost a safe bet that he won't come prepared, and will probably not show very good games.
BoBiNoU
Profile Joined March 2011
France181 Posts
May 12 2012 18:13 GMT
#114
wow the quality of the sound keeps getting worse every week :/
go m00
FrodaN
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
754 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 18:23:37
May 12 2012 18:22 GMT
#115
On May 13 2012 02:23 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 21:07 Jotoco wrote:
I think players should be DQ after 3 no-shows.

1st a warning, 2nd a fine (on top of not getting the money for the match, a fine of whatever prize they end up winning), 3rd a 2 season DQ.

Catz is one that would be out already.

Others should be pretty close to being tossed out.


Or you can come up with a format that doesn't require players to show up for the games they have no competitive motivation to play - by not having these kinds of games.

Just have 4 player qualifier groups in ODT format and show one group every broadcasting day. The players only have a commitment to show up once - the day their group is being played - and every series they play can lead to qualification for the final event.

It's easier and cheaper for NASL, for the players, and viewers get better games and more excitement out of them. Everyone wins. The way they've been doing things so far is pretty much based on the rationale of "we want to do it this way"... even though there's no advantages that I can see to doing it their way.

The way it's been done so far, if a player is down 0-3 or 1-4 in NASL, even with the prize money for each series it's hard to find motivation to show up. And even if he does show up, it's almost a safe bet that he won't come prepared, and will probably not show very good games.


Getting in NASL is essentially 8 showmatches guaranteed. You'd want to show up because it's a good way for you to get publicity while earning cash. Targa REFUSED the walkover for Jinro because he wanted to face him for his potential $150. While the $150 may not matter for a select individuals in the scene, each series matters to the rest of the progamers who aren't banking in hundreds upon thousands every year.

Even if you go 2-6 in your division, you get $300 over the course of two months. That's more than what most other players get in showmatches as the average is $100 to the winner...unless you're on the upper echelons of popularity. Trust me, most of the players care.
bikefrog
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway451 Posts
May 12 2012 18:29 GMT
#116
TargA fighting!
Foreigners fighting! Ovethrow our Korean overlords!
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 22:47:35
May 12 2012 22:46 GMT
#117
On May 13 2012 02:23 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 21:07 Jotoco wrote:
I think players should be DQ after 3 no-shows.

1st a warning, 2nd a fine (on top of not getting the money for the match, a fine of whatever prize they end up winning), 3rd a 2 season DQ.

Catz is one that would be out already.

Others should be pretty close to being tossed out.


Or you can come up with a format that doesn't require players to show up for the games they have no competitive motivation to play - by not having these kinds of games.

Just have 4 player qualifier groups in ODT format and show one group every broadcasting day. The players only have a commitment to show up once - the day their group is being played - and every series they play can lead to qualification for the final event.

It's easier and cheaper for NASL, for the players, and viewers get better games and more excitement out of them. Everyone wins. The way they've been doing things so far is pretty much based on the rationale of "we want to do it this way"... even though there's no advantages that I can see to doing it their way.

The way it's been done so far, if a player is down 0-3 or 1-4 in NASL, even with the prize money for each series it's hard to find motivation to show up. And even if he does show up, it's almost a safe bet that he won't come prepared, and will probably not show very good games.


They do have competitive motivation to play - and financial motivation. The problem is that getting people to show up on a specific day every single week is difficult. People are busy, and scheduling issues happen that they won't know in advance.

Your format does indeed solve this problem, but the format you gave results in less games. NASL's current format is 9 players x 5 groups = 45 players. Having 9 players in a group results in a total of 8 + 7 + 6 + 5 + 4 + 3 + 2 + 1 = 36 matches each group, for a total of 180 matches, which is then split between 9 weeks x 5 days x 4 matches. I don't think a standard 4 player group format is able to produce 180 matches.
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