EPT[NASL] Week 5 Division 3 - Page 6
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corpsepose
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Benjamin99
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Hulavuta
United States1252 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8230 Posts
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MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
On May 12 2012 12:45 geokilla wrote: Why is Huk given a walk over but Strelok's match not? Strelok was given the walkover. | ||
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freeshooter
United States477 Posts
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
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Jotoco
Brazil1342 Posts
1st a warning, 2nd a fine (on top of not getting the money for the match, a fine of whatever prize they end up winning), 3rd a 2 season DQ. Catz is one that would be out already. Others should be pretty close to being tossed out. | ||
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BathTubNZ
New Zealand2556 Posts
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Strelok
Ukraine320 Posts
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Silvanel
Poland4720 Posts
Its so not like Mana, i guess its because of exams he had recently. | ||
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Doomwish
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On May 12 2012 21:07 Jotoco wrote: I think players should be DQ after 3 no-shows. 1st a warning, 2nd a fine (on top of not getting the money for the match, a fine of whatever prize they end up winning), 3rd a 2 season DQ. Catz is one that would be out already. Others should be pretty close to being tossed out. Or you can come up with a format that doesn't require players to show up for the games they have no competitive motivation to play - by not having these kinds of games. Just have 4 player qualifier groups in ODT format and show one group every broadcasting day. The players only have a commitment to show up once - the day their group is being played - and every series they play can lead to qualification for the final event. It's easier and cheaper for NASL, for the players, and viewers get better games and more excitement out of them. Everyone wins. The way they've been doing things so far is pretty much based on the rationale of "we want to do it this way"... even though there's no advantages that I can see to doing it their way. The way it's been done so far, if a player is down 0-3 or 1-4 in NASL, even with the prize money for each series it's hard to find motivation to show up. And even if he does show up, it's almost a safe bet that he won't come prepared, and will probably not show very good games. | ||
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BoBiNoU
France181 Posts
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FrodaN
754 Posts
On May 13 2012 02:23 Talin wrote: Or you can come up with a format that doesn't require players to show up for the games they have no competitive motivation to play - by not having these kinds of games. Just have 4 player qualifier groups in ODT format and show one group every broadcasting day. The players only have a commitment to show up once - the day their group is being played - and every series they play can lead to qualification for the final event. It's easier and cheaper for NASL, for the players, and viewers get better games and more excitement out of them. Everyone wins. The way they've been doing things so far is pretty much based on the rationale of "we want to do it this way"... even though there's no advantages that I can see to doing it their way. The way it's been done so far, if a player is down 0-3 or 1-4 in NASL, even with the prize money for each series it's hard to find motivation to show up. And even if he does show up, it's almost a safe bet that he won't come prepared, and will probably not show very good games. Getting in NASL is essentially 8 showmatches guaranteed. You'd want to show up because it's a good way for you to get publicity while earning cash. Targa REFUSED the walkover for Jinro because he wanted to face him for his potential $150. While the $150 may not matter for a select individuals in the scene, each series matters to the rest of the progamers who aren't banking in hundreds upon thousands every year. Even if you go 2-6 in your division, you get $300 over the course of two months. That's more than what most other players get in showmatches as the average is $100 to the winner...unless you're on the upper echelons of popularity. Trust me, most of the players care. | ||
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bikefrog
Norway451 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On May 13 2012 02:23 Talin wrote: Or you can come up with a format that doesn't require players to show up for the games they have no competitive motivation to play - by not having these kinds of games. Just have 4 player qualifier groups in ODT format and show one group every broadcasting day. The players only have a commitment to show up once - the day their group is being played - and every series they play can lead to qualification for the final event. It's easier and cheaper for NASL, for the players, and viewers get better games and more excitement out of them. Everyone wins. The way they've been doing things so far is pretty much based on the rationale of "we want to do it this way"... even though there's no advantages that I can see to doing it their way. The way it's been done so far, if a player is down 0-3 or 1-4 in NASL, even with the prize money for each series it's hard to find motivation to show up. And even if he does show up, it's almost a safe bet that he won't come prepared, and will probably not show very good games. They do have competitive motivation to play - and financial motivation. The problem is that getting people to show up on a specific day every single week is difficult. People are busy, and scheduling issues happen that they won't know in advance. Your format does indeed solve this problem, but the format you gave results in less games. NASL's current format is 9 players x 5 groups = 45 players. Having 9 players in a group results in a total of 8 + 7 + 6 + 5 + 4 + 3 + 2 + 1 = 36 matches each group, for a total of 180 matches, which is then split between 9 weeks x 5 days x 4 matches. I don't think a standard 4 player group format is able to produce 180 matches. | ||
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