MaNa was not able to show up for his scheduled match time against Strelok, therefore Strelok receives a 2-0 walkover. Match 3 #6 Mana (2-2) vs #1 Strelok (3-1) Mana < Daybreak > Strelok Mana < Loser's Pick > Strelok Mana < Loser's Pick > Strelok Results + Show Spoiler +
MaNa was not able to show up for their scheduled match time, therefore Strelok receives a 2-0 walkover.
Instead of arguing about whether these games are played in the past, lets argue about whether or not they are played in the future. Seems just as probable.
Rain was disappointing to watch. At least I had a glass of red wine to go with all the cheese. Always makes me happy to see the bad cheese lose though.
Ugh, Axslav played that so well (aside from his simcity) and Ganzi kept throwing away units. No reason not to have Hts against drops by then, and no reason not to have storm or colossi.
Here's the thing with the walkovers, Season 1, they had a 2 day turnaround between matches and broadcasts, and there were a lot of walkovers. Last season, they secretly allowed VERY flexible scheduling, matches played weeks ahead of broadcast and such, and there were few walkovers, but this fact leaked, people hated it, and it was a reason why viewership was so bad. Now they listen to their customers and have a live or at most 1 day turnaround, and the walkovers are back. I think NASL is really in a Catch-22 here, the only solution to the walkovers is horribly unpopular with everyone else other than the players.
On May 12 2012 11:48 compucomp wrote: Here's the thing with the walkovers, Season 1, they had a 2 day turnaround between matches and broadcasts, and there were a lot of walkovers. Last season, they secretly allowed VERY flexible scheduling, matches played weeks ahead of broadcast and such, and there were few walkovers, but this fact leaked, people hated it, and it was a reason why viewership was so bad. Now they listen to their customers and have a live or at most 1 day turnaround, and the walkovers are back. I think NASL is really in a Catch-22 here, the only solution to the walkovers is horribly unpopular with everyone else other than the players.
They tried to take their money, to give them money, if they don't understand that language time for the league to shrink the roster and weed out the bad apples.
"MaNa was not able to show up for his scheduled match time against Strelok, therefore Strelok receives a 2-0 walkover." Its so not like Mana, i guess its because of exams he had recently.
On May 12 2012 21:07 Jotoco wrote: I think players should be DQ after 3 no-shows.
1st a warning, 2nd a fine (on top of not getting the money for the match, a fine of whatever prize they end up winning), 3rd a 2 season DQ.
Catz is one that would be out already.
Others should be pretty close to being tossed out.
Or you can come up with a format that doesn't require players to show up for the games they have no competitive motivation to play - by not having these kinds of games.
Just have 4 player qualifier groups in ODT format and show one group every broadcasting day. The players only have a commitment to show up once - the day their group is being played - and every series they play can lead to qualification for the final event.
It's easier and cheaper for NASL, for the players, and viewers get better games and more excitement out of them. Everyone wins. The way they've been doing things so far is pretty much based on the rationale of "we want to do it this way"... even though there's no advantages that I can see to doing it their way.
The way it's been done so far, if a player is down 0-3 or 1-4 in NASL, even with the prize money for each series it's hard to find motivation to show up. And even if he does show up, it's almost a safe bet that he won't come prepared, and will probably not show very good games.
On May 12 2012 21:07 Jotoco wrote: I think players should be DQ after 3 no-shows.
1st a warning, 2nd a fine (on top of not getting the money for the match, a fine of whatever prize they end up winning), 3rd a 2 season DQ.
Catz is one that would be out already.
Others should be pretty close to being tossed out.
Or you can come up with a format that doesn't require players to show up for the games they have no competitive motivation to play - by not having these kinds of games.
Just have 4 player qualifier groups in ODT format and show one group every broadcasting day. The players only have a commitment to show up once - the day their group is being played - and every series they play can lead to qualification for the final event.
It's easier and cheaper for NASL, for the players, and viewers get better games and more excitement out of them. Everyone wins. The way they've been doing things so far is pretty much based on the rationale of "we want to do it this way"... even though there's no advantages that I can see to doing it their way.
The way it's been done so far, if a player is down 0-3 or 1-4 in NASL, even with the prize money for each series it's hard to find motivation to show up. And even if he does show up, it's almost a safe bet that he won't come prepared, and will probably not show very good games.
Getting in NASL is essentially 8 showmatches guaranteed. You'd want to show up because it's a good way for you to get publicity while earning cash. Targa REFUSED the walkover for Jinro because he wanted to face him for his potential $150. While the $150 may not matter for a select individuals in the scene, each series matters to the rest of the progamers who aren't banking in hundreds upon thousands every year.
Even if you go 2-6 in your division, you get $300 over the course of two months. That's more than what most other players get in showmatches as the average is $100 to the winner...unless you're on the upper echelons of popularity. Trust me, most of the players care.
On May 12 2012 21:07 Jotoco wrote: I think players should be DQ after 3 no-shows.
1st a warning, 2nd a fine (on top of not getting the money for the match, a fine of whatever prize they end up winning), 3rd a 2 season DQ.
Catz is one that would be out already.
Others should be pretty close to being tossed out.
Or you can come up with a format that doesn't require players to show up for the games they have no competitive motivation to play - by not having these kinds of games.
Just have 4 player qualifier groups in ODT format and show one group every broadcasting day. The players only have a commitment to show up once - the day their group is being played - and every series they play can lead to qualification for the final event.
It's easier and cheaper for NASL, for the players, and viewers get better games and more excitement out of them. Everyone wins. The way they've been doing things so far is pretty much based on the rationale of "we want to do it this way"... even though there's no advantages that I can see to doing it their way.
The way it's been done so far, if a player is down 0-3 or 1-4 in NASL, even with the prize money for each series it's hard to find motivation to show up. And even if he does show up, it's almost a safe bet that he won't come prepared, and will probably not show very good games.
They do have competitive motivation to play - and financial motivation. The problem is that getting people to show up on a specific day every single week is difficult. People are busy, and scheduling issues happen that they won't know in advance.
Your format does indeed solve this problem, but the format you gave results in less games. NASL's current format is 9 players x 5 groups = 45 players. Having 9 players in a group results in a total of 8 + 7 + 6 + 5 + 4 + 3 + 2 + 1 = 36 matches each group, for a total of 180 matches, which is then split between 9 weeks x 5 days x 4 matches. I don't think a standard 4 player group format is able to produce 180 matches.
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