[Code S] Ro16 2012 GSL Season 2 Group A - Page 154

On April 19 2012 05:39 dangerjoe wrote:
The picture for this VOD on gom.tv says this is 'Free' but I can only watch Game 1

On April 19 2012 05:43 Hamdemon wrote:


It's always been free to watch game 1, have to get a ticket to watch the rest.

On April 19 2012 04:37 Liquid`NonY wrote:
It's hard to tell when a player plays poorly because of the pressure his opponent is putting on him. Sometimes certain timings and strategies are quite confounding when seeing them for the first time in Code S. And once a player kind of establishes his momentum and presence in a match, a lot of players will get intimidated and lose confidence and start making all kinds of random mistakes. I think the dominating player deserves credit for that.

Also when a player commits to something and it works, and he does this over and over again and every time he commits he's winning, well then you can't really call him risky or all-in. For all we know, the only time he commits is when he knows it works.

It seems to me that a lot of viewers cannot tell the difference between luck and skill, whether we're talking about the smallest bit of micro or the strategy of the whole game. Anything and everything that a player does could be done with a lot of knowledge backing it up that we don't know about. Myself included. When I'm trying to learn from a player I'm watching, it's very important for me to know whether he took a risk and whether this thing that appeared to be lucky was intentionally set up. Or when there's a very close call that the player knew would go in his favor but everyone else thought could've gone either way, I need to be able to make the right call too.

When a player keeps winning, you've got to give him credit. That's all it comes down to.

As for attempts at ranking and who belongs where etc, I'm surprised that it's not obvious to everyone that most of those thoughts are in vain. There are a lot of people that can beat a lot of people. Players that can make a deep run in Code S can fail to qualify for Code A for a couple seasons. IMO watch the games, enjoy the fruits of the progamers' hard work, cheer on your favorites, talk about the games themselves and call it a day =]

On April 19 2012 03:34 GreyKnight wrote:
also I think naniwa needs a back and forth series where the opponent actually plays a strong code s level game. the games he's playing are really weak or he just wins.

his games just look less effort on his part and he still wins. his engagements look really sloppy and bad honestly and the pvp vs genius was just weird. like for example, nobody doubts supernova's code s quality when he plays games like that vs genius on daybreak. naniwa needs something like that before it cements his status in my opinion. people are blinded by the fact he's a foreigner but i actually think his opponents played insanely poor.

i dont want to detract from his accomplishment either but code s feels alot less skilled than last season with champions playing poorly and dropping out.

On April 19 2012 06:00 Alkro wrote:
It's quite cool that the foreigners who have reached furthest in GSL are both Swedish. (Jinro and Naniwa)

On April 19 2012 06:30 Phobbers wrote:

Remember that one time HuK got to the RO8? I guess not. =/

On April 19 2012 03:34 GreyKnight wrote:
people are blinded by the fact he's a foreigner but i actually think his opponents played insanely poor.

i dont want to detract from his accomplishment either but code s feels alot less skilled than last season with champions playing poorly and dropping out.

On April 19 2012 06:38 Juvant wrote:



Idra too.

On April 19 2012 04:37 Liquid`NonY wrote:
It's hard to tell when a player plays poorly because of the pressure his opponent is putting on him. Sometimes certain timings and strategies are quite confounding when seeing them for the first time in Code S. And once a player kind of establishes his momentum and presence in a match, a lot of players will get intimidated and lose confidence and start making all kinds of random mistakes. I think the dominating player deserves credit for that.

Also when a player commits to something and it works, and he does this over and over again and every time he commits he's winning, well then you can't really call him risky or all-in. For all we know, the only time he commits is when he knows it works.

It seems to me that a lot of viewers cannot tell the difference between luck and skill, whether we're talking about the smallest bit of micro or the strategy of the whole game. Anything and everything that a player does could be done with a lot of knowledge backing it up that we don't know about. Myself included. When I'm trying to learn from a player I'm watching, it's very important for me to know whether he took a risk and whether this thing that appeared to be lucky was intentionally set up. Or when there's a very close call that the player knew would go in his favor but everyone else thought could've gone either way, I need to be able to make the right call too.

When a player keeps winning, you've got to give him credit. That's all it comes down to.

As for attempts at ranking and who belongs where etc, I'm surprised that it's not obvious to everyone that most of those thoughts are in vain. There are a lot of people that can beat a lot of people. Players that can make a deep run in Code S can fail to qualify for Code A for a couple seasons. IMO watch the games, enjoy the fruits of the progamers' hard work, cheer on your favorites, talk about the games themselves and call it a day =]