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Profile Joined March 2012
Bulgaria281 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 13:11:33
March 27 2012 13:11 GMT
#1761
The road from the top to the bottom is short and GuMiho knows it well now
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
March 27 2012 13:11 GMT
#1762
Amazing that Curious can't play like this (safe and defensive) against Hero and instead goes a gimmicky primitive zerg all-out attack against protoss. I feel like Curious is a metagame abuser.

Anyways, terrans need to come up with a lategame strategy against the zerg deathball (corrupter/BL/infestor/ling).
trwkling
Profile Joined September 2011
658 Posts
March 27 2012 13:11 GMT
#1763
mm gumi :/ choke day? i mean i haven't seen much of his tvz before but i think he certainly choked against maru :/ ro48 now...
but his opponent will be dreamertt!! hopefully his tvt will be okay then
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 27 2012 13:11 GMT
#1764
If Curious keeps playing like that I'd much rather have him advance over herO tbh :/
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33466 Posts
March 27 2012 13:11 GMT
#1765
curious such a beast at zvt now, wtf
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
March 27 2012 13:11 GMT
#1766
On March 27 2012 22:08 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 22:07 vndods wrote:
On March 27 2012 22:05 Huragius wrote:
TvZ more and more starts looking like TvP. I hate the "deathball effect" in sc2 :/

i wish Terran could have the option to turtle to 200/200 and win too sometimes


watch TvZ and TvT Mech games; pretty much every game a Terran wins with Mech is a 200/200 turtle.


Like I said, pure 200/200 mech does not stand a chance against Infestor/Broodlord. You need Vikings/Ghosts/Ravens and you are likely to die to and Ultra switch after big engage.
Shardz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States349 Posts
March 27 2012 13:11 GMT
#1767
I thought it was going to be Curious and Hero advancing, didn't see maru coming though lol.
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kckkryptonite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1126 Posts
March 27 2012 13:11 GMT
#1768
On March 27 2012 22:08 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 22:07 vndods wrote:
On March 27 2012 22:05 Huragius wrote:
TvZ more and more starts looking like TvP. I hate the "deathball effect" in sc2 :/

i wish Terran could have the option to turtle to 200/200 and win too sometimes


watch TvZ and TvT Mech games; pretty much every game a Terran wins with Mech is a 200/200 turtle.


Nah, you still have to do some form of harass/pressure if meching in TvZ
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silverstyle
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1108 Posts
March 27 2012 13:11 GMT
#1769
On March 27 2012 22:10 etrensce wrote:
I feel foolish for liquidbetting gumiho


same here.... really feeling that he was over hyped lol. Feeling even more dumb that I bought into the hype lol
Liquid`HerO!!!
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
March 27 2012 13:11 GMT
#1770
Another great win from Curious. I feel sorry for the towel Terran though.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
March 27 2012 13:12 GMT
#1771
I kind of hope HerO doesn't go for immediate stargate again. It looked either really good or really really sketch.
umelbumel
Profile Joined January 2011
2026 Posts
March 27 2012 13:12 GMT
#1772
gogogo hero!
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
March 27 2012 13:12 GMT
#1773
On March 27 2012 22:09 Angel_ wrote:
HerO Curious Rematch. excited.
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and no, Curious hasnt been making an ultralisk cavern. so realistically if Gumiho had bothered making vikings earlier he might have just been fine. =\


Vikings made after Broodlords have been made appear to almost be useless considering zerg can always produce corruptors faster than vikings and almost one fungal to a viking cloud is death.

Basically if a Zerg is economically ahead and is not fearing an impending Terran push, I don't actually see a reason they shouldn't go for a ling/infestor/BL/corruptor combo. Polt is the only player I've seen for a bit do anything decent against it.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Altern
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1053 Posts
March 27 2012 13:12 GMT
#1774
Hero montage time!
xOtit
Profile Joined April 2011
United States253 Posts
March 27 2012 13:12 GMT
#1775
Really poor play by Gumiho, he just decided to never attack his opponent all game long and let him max out on infestor broodlord.
"If I play zerg I'm like Nestea" - Deezer
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
March 27 2012 13:12 GMT
#1776
Tentative. That was how Gumiho played. So unfox-like.
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 27 2012 13:12 GMT
#1777
come on hero, you beat him once, you can beat him twice.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9405 Posts
March 27 2012 13:13 GMT
#1778
On March 27 2012 22:08 rothsbury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 22:03 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
On March 27 2012 22:01 rothsbury wrote:
On March 27 2012 21:56 Fluffboll wrote:
On March 27 2012 21:52 rothsbury wrote:
On March 27 2012 21:50 Azzur wrote:
Terrans have no answer to this Zerg lategame composition

At least now anyways

Eh, Gumiho was really unprepared for the broodlords in this match; he didn't start viking production until broods were already morphing. I think it is pretty balanced.


Actually, if you produce enough vikings to take out the Brood Lords and Corruptors the tech switch to Ultra/Ling will kill you so Terran lategame is really bad versus zerg lategame at this moment in time. Terrans can still win vs zerg by not letting the zerg get to the lategame however.

That's an economy issue then; broodlord/corruptor is really expensive, so if the terran has let the zerg get such an economic lead that the zerg can afford to lose all his corruptors and broods and then mass out of ultra/lings, then you were probably behind anyway. In a lot of broodlord corruptor pushes the zerg uses all of his money on those units, so if he loses them he can't really afford a big tech switch.


I think that leads us to the point: Don't let zerg reach the lategame. I wouldn't call fast tech with no economy to back it up lategame.

Lategame =/= letting zerg do whatever he wants. If you let the zerg sit on 5 bases without attacking for 20 mins, then yeah they gcan do that really expensive gas switch no problem. The idea is that even in the lategame you deny expansions, snipe expos, trade armies etc. so the zerg can't build up a giant bank while on 200/200.

Edit: also drops are really good against zerg lategame. Couple of dropships can kill a lot of tech / drones etc..


Watch stephano plays. He has great multitasking. And simply deals with early attacks. There is no way (IMO) that you can do a lot of damage early game/midgame to a zerg who simply plays very well like stephano. What works on your ladder game isn't suppoed to work on top top zerg players. And its only gonna get worse in the future (zergs gonna get better and better), untill (if) the terran finds a way to beat the army.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
March 27 2012 13:13 GMT
#1779
On March 27 2012 22:12 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 22:09 Angel_ wrote:
HerO Curious Rematch. excited.
-

and no, Curious hasnt been making an ultralisk cavern. so realistically if Gumiho had bothered making vikings earlier he might have just been fine. =\


Vikings made after Broodlords have been made appear to almost be useless considering zerg can always produce corruptors faster than vikings and almost one fungal to a viking cloud is death.

Basically if a Zerg is economically ahead and is not fearing an impending Terran push, I don't actually see a reason they shouldn't go for a ling/infestor/BL/corruptor combo. Polt is the only player I've seen for a bit do anything decent against it.

Unless you're MMA and can dropship tanks unto infestors!
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
March 27 2012 13:13 GMT
#1780
On March 27 2012 22:11 silverstyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 22:10 etrensce wrote:
I feel foolish for liquidbetting gumiho


same here.... really feeling that he was over hyped lol. Feeling even more dumb that I bought into the hype lol

Curious played better than Gumiho today.
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