EPT[GSL] 2012 Season 2 Code S Ro32 Group D - Page 42
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On March 27 2012 20:04 Thugtronik wrote: probably because protoss has to 2 base all in every game. if all protoss went for thirds like this im sure zerg's winrate would be higher rofl, so if protoss wins most of the games on this map by 2-basing its BAD for protoss? And then you fault map because its weak for 3 base? Never heard of map dependant builds? | ||
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zerglingrodeo
United States910 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37072 Posts
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Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
On March 27 2012 20:05 JJH777 wrote: Stop complaining about the map. Hero isn't and has never been a top toss. Curious is the 4th best Zerg in the world. Curious has to prove something more then being in Code-S to call himself that, you can speculate that he is the fourth best, but its not a fact! And btw, Hero is a top toss!  | ||
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ch1ppr
Sweden123 Posts
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StUfF
Australia1437 Posts
He lost when he didn't deny the third and/or follow up with an all-in. edit: amazing how well he did to hold on so far but its got to be taxing/draining trying to win an unwinnable game. | ||
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teamamerica
United States958 Posts
On March 27 2012 20:05 MegaFonzie wrote: A riveting argument old chap, but the amount of lings forced and killed at the start, queen snipe and delayed 3rd base were well worth the price of the gateway expand. I'm not usually a fan of it but in this particular game, it simply worked. It's stupid to try and deny that It did but it also had his expo far later then a FFE and invested 600 gas in sentries that a FFE can let him skip, or at least invest in later. I honestly think a FFE would have been better, I think it lends itself better to a 2base timing because you get econ up faster so atk comes sooner. | ||
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etrensce
Australia337 Posts
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
On March 27 2012 20:06 Asha` wrote: 80 games is a decent sample size. And I know Toss complain about it, but they win on it a ton. Play to the map? Metropolis is a hard map for ZvP but you didn't see Zergs blaming Curious loss on how easy it is for Protoss to turtle on 3 bases there =/ The point is still that if you are forced by map design into a small set of builds, then the map isn't as good as others. Take metropolis, you can either take a 3rd or allin. On dual sight you are forced to allins and because of the structure of the map, you will win more than on any other map, which to me is just stupid. It's the same exact reason why Crossfire is finally out of the map pool. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
Same primitive strat but different map Still, Hero got too greedy during the early game and made some mistakes! | ||
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itsjuspeter
United States668 Posts
On March 27 2012 20:06 Asha` wrote: 80 games is a decent sample size. And I know Toss complain about it, but they win on it a ton. Play to the map? Metropolis is a very hard map for ZvP but you didn't see Zergs blaming Curious loss on how easy it is for Protoss to turtle on 3 bases there =/ You kidding right? do you know how many attack paths there are going to the 3rd? Also how far it is for a protoss to cover his main if hes caught out of positions if mutas fly in? | ||
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
Both players did mistakes in the game though. | ||
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dainbramage
Australia1442 Posts
On March 27 2012 20:03 SolvusAnima wrote: Can someone explain to me why such a horrible map is still being used? Consider how long it took them to get rid of crossfire... | ||
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Acnologia
Australia410 Posts
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TheBB
Switzerland5133 Posts
On March 27 2012 20:05 Atoissen wrote: They only reason for the low % then has to be Protoss all-inning...? And winning? But thats not waht we want to see is it? We never want to know that he will 2 base all-inn... It would be easy for zerg to win then. What? All-ins are part of the game too. Of course a map will appear imbalanced for Zerg if all Protoss choose to employ a suboptimal strategy. | ||
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JJH777
United States4416 Posts
On March 27 2012 20:07 Atoissen wrote: Curious has to prove something more then being in Code-S to call himself that, you can speculate that he is the fourth best, but its not a fact! And btw, Hero is a top toss! He's the only Zerg besides the obvious top 3 to have gotten a Code S ro16 in a long time. He also destroyed Code A. There is no one else participating for the 4th spot. Hero has never done well in GSL. Doing well in foreign tournaments doesn't make you a top Protoss. | ||
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bbQ4Aiur
Hong Kong2752 Posts
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