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Please have some respect for the players, teams, and tournament.
Criticism is fine, criticism without anything to back it up isn't so cool.
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On March 25 2012 11:34 MVTaylor wrote:
DeMusliM has a realistic chance of getting in to the top 16 now if he can recapture his MLG Arena form that saw him beat NesTea and go 1-0 up against Oz.
I would say Socke and CrazyMoving are lower tier opponents. Hell, even DRG said he was the best player he played in his group. Oh fuck it I don't care if I'm biased, UK FIGHTING!
(holy crap there's no US players left!)
Funny, how you call Socke "lower tier", when he has overall better tournament results than Demuslim.
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On March 25 2012 11:39 murtas wrote:
I never played WC3 and didnt follow it, but Grubby doesnt seem to have the overall mechanics and multitask to dominate a game such as SC2.
Specially when koreans are on field.
Agreed. I feel like his strategies are really good and he puts a lot of thought into his play but his raw macro, speed and multi task is well short.
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can you guys tell me at what stream did stephano play inori and at what time?
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On March 25 2012 11:59 Holdinga wrote:
can you guys tell me at what stream did stephano play inori and at what time?
I don't think it was streamed
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On March 25 2012 11:55 illsick wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 11:41 ref4 wrote:
again, I meant not disrespect to Grubby, I know that he makes his living through sponsors because he is such an articulate and likable individual. But his career as a player is not going anywhere if he is not willing to make the necessary sacrifices just like all the Korean players and top foreigners (Naniwa, Huk) and fans can only really watch their idols under-performing and fall so many times before they decided to stop caring about them, and then Grubby will (most likely) loses his sponsors. I think with his game knowledge he should transition into being a caster/commentator it really suits him better and it allows him to take care of his wife & family. You are so wrong, he has a fan base and fans don't simply stop caring for him or follow him if he does bad. Great example of that is Boxer. Grubby is still one of the best protoss foreigner, if you think he should stop because he had one bad tournament then you should really think about what you are saying. If the cut off line in skill is Grubby for people to quit playing then you just cut off 90% of foreigners. Let's have Naniwa, Stephano, and HuK be the only foreigners playing this game (sarcasm).
I agree that he shouldnt quit but I think you're laying on the praise a little too thick. There are more than 3 players that are better than Grubby.
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You cant call this tournament even bad for Grubby, he prolly learned a lot from it. He never faced so many good players in 2 days before.
You dont need top results to have a massive fanbase, if you treat you fanbase the correct way they will stick by you. And Grubby does that, he got like 700 dollars last month in donations alone besides his subscribers. Thats pretty sick.
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On March 25 2012 11:43 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 11:35 Bagration wrote:On March 25 2012 11:33 KalWarkov wrote:satisfied with Socke and HasuObs performance, kind of sad stephano didnt show his true power  but its hard from the open bracket anyway - should lose to inori though in his best MU. kind of wanna see that games. Demuslim couldve won against haypro and id be fine with how this MLG went - oh, besides LuK again having as much of it as humanly possible. Yeah can you believe how lucky Huk gets? He deserved to get banned from progaming for being so lucky. /sarcasm off The Huk hate is astounding really, even Deezer doesn't get this much hate. Really, since when does pointing out that he gets incredibly lucky with brackets (Which he does!) equal hate? I haven't been the biggest HuK fan lately, but I certainly don't hate him either. You can't really deny he has earned the nickname LuK the last 2-3 foreign tournaments I've seen him at he has had by far the easiest group/bracket.
It does when people completely brush off his achievements, like getting 3rd at MLG Arena. It's actually quite disrespectful. I'm not really a Huk fan either, but here you have a guy who is playing professional SC2 full time and whenever he has a good run, people just call it luck.
Obviously he doesn't have as hard of a group as a guy like Grubby did, but that doesn't mean he still has been winning most of his games. Imagine yourself in his position, how would you react if not one person, but a significant portion of the community dismisses your accomplishments because they think you got lucky?
I agree that he's gotten relatively easy brackets at Arena and this tournament, but they have not been exactly cakewalks either.
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On March 25 2012 11:50 Tobon wrote:
I think HuK's luck in getting easy groups in foreign tournaments is balanced by his bad luck in code S and up/down matches. Last year in the GSL he always seemed to hit the eventual code S winner or runner-up in early rounds and was out earlier than he probably deserved.
Karmic balance.
Like half of Code S gets personally defeated by the Code S champion or runner-up. So it's not fair to characterize it as bad luck.
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On March 25 2012 11:52 Desiato wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 11:51 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
is there going to be an overnight rerun? You can just click backwards on the stream timeline and instantly rewatch any games on it.
Or if you have gold you can look at all the VODs instantly.
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Thank god Puma's out, saves me a lot of annoying slobbering drool from fanboys when I go barcrafting tommorow.
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Why are people hating on Grubby all of a sudden? Just look at his group, that would've been a hard group for almost any foreigner.
He just got top4 at the Lone Star Clash beating Violet etc. and one week later it's all forgotten.
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On March 25 2012 11:56 Sphaero wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 11:34 MVTaylor wrote:
DeMusliM has a realistic chance of getting in to the top 16 now if he can recapture his MLG Arena form that saw him beat NesTea and go 1-0 up against Oz.
I would say Socke and CrazyMoving are lower tier opponents. Hell, even DRG said he was the best player he played in his group. Oh fuck it I don't care if I'm biased, UK FIGHTING!
(holy crap there's no US players left!) Funny, how you call Socke "lower tier", when he has overall better tournament results than Demuslim.
I think he means Socke is lower tier from Oz and CrazyMoving from NesTea ?? Could be wrong
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grats to socke for winnin against puma, at least a toss able to beat a terran today. not sure what happened in the game itself but thats a quality win right there.
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Nice job socke beating Puma!
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On March 25 2012 11:47 TeTrodoToxIn wrote:
For some reason I think Oz is going to take this tournament, he's going to take one eventually and from the games I've seen he is playing very strong this weekend.
I was hoping for IdrA and NonY to go farther in this tournament as well. That second game against Polt was just terrible luck for IdrA. That was probably the worst time for Polt to pause for him. If Polt's lag was that terrible I can see why he would pause, just that was an awkward place for both players in terms of when to pause.
IdrA not having his spine crawler up in time to defend against probably the single most common current TvZ opening wasn't terrible luck, the pause didn't have anything to do with that.
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On March 25 2012 12:01 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 11:43 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On March 25 2012 11:35 Bagration wrote:On March 25 2012 11:33 KalWarkov wrote:satisfied with Socke and HasuObs performance, kind of sad stephano didnt show his true power but its hard from the open bracket anyway - should lose to inori though in his best MU. kind of wanna see that games. Demuslim couldve won against haypro and id be fine with how this MLG went - oh, besides LuK again having as much of it as humanly possible. Yeah can you believe how lucky Huk gets? He deserved to get banned from progaming for being so lucky. /sarcasm off The Huk hate is astounding really, even Deezer doesn't get this much hate. Really, since when does pointing out that he gets incredibly lucky with brackets (Which he does!) equal hate? I haven't been the biggest HuK fan lately, but I certainly don't hate him either. You can't really deny he has earned the nickname LuK the last 2-3 foreign tournaments I've seen him at he has had by far the easiest group/bracket. It does when people completely brush off his achievements, like getting 3rd at MLG Arena. It's actually quite disrespectful. (...) I agree that he's gotten relatively easy brackets at Arena and this tournament, .
Seems like the two of you agree with each other. Nothing disrespectful about pointing out the relative bracket strength as you did yourself. No one brushed his accomplishments aside.
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Lol stephano loses to a toss and it isnt shown. the whole world wants to see.. xDDDD
Can you guys then tell me which games were really epic on the main stream?
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On March 25 2012 12:14 Holdinga wrote:
Lol stephano loses to a toss and it isnt shown. the whole world wants to see.. xDDDD
Can you guys then tell me which games were really epic on the main stream?
Polt vs IdrA
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On March 25 2012 09:38 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 09:35 iAmJeffReY wrote:On March 25 2012 09:35 shekyeung wrote:![[image loading]](http://i40.tinypic.com/j803na.png) congrats to my friend!! so proud!! love, yl whos that? thats YATA! can we get some more background on him?
This is not yata at all. Stop spreading the picture.
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On March 25 2012 12:16 dragonborn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 12:14 Holdinga wrote:
Lol stephano loses to a toss and it isnt shown. the whole world wants to see.. xDDDD
Can you guys then tell me which games were really epic on the main stream? Polt vs IdrA
That series was the antithesis of epic.
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