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Please have some respect for the players, teams, and tournament.
Criticism is fine, criticism without anything to back it up isn't so cool.
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With how passive select was for the majority of the game i'd be suprised if grubby loses.
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Wow, Polt tore Ostojiy apart, first game.
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Poor choice to engage from SeleCT after killing the third, he should have resigned to drop harassing Grubby's other expansions while getting remaxed.
Not that it matters, I don't see how he can lose going forward, but that was a bit of a poor decision ^^
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On March 25 2012 10:43 Wegandi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:39 Femari wrote:On March 25 2012 10:37 Wegandi wrote:On March 25 2012 10:28 DystopiaX wrote:On March 25 2012 10:26 anonymitylol wrote:On March 25 2012 10:25 Femari wrote:On March 25 2012 10:21 Dumboprime wrote:On March 25 2012 10:18 Femari wrote:On March 25 2012 10:17 Mysticesper wrote:On March 25 2012 10:16 Femari wrote:
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Yeah I've been pulled away from SC2 for a bit to watch the series so that says something. But if the Halo crowd keeps this up it'll start rivaling the SC2 crowd in intensity and it won't be dropped until 4 comes out.
I just hope H4 is like the originals, not Reach. What changed in Halo: Reach? I don't know anything about it, but I find it hard to believe a console FPS game can change all that much. Bloom, equipment, no BR, etc. Not to mention the maps Bungie made were pretty bad. It just wasnt fun at all. It was boring, especially the maps. What's Bloom?  In FPS games you have the target built in, well with bloom there is a circle that expands when you move or shoot, meaning your accuracy goes down. So if you shoot you have to wait for your circle to get small again to shoot or you'll miss. Works in Shadowrun, but not Halo. That's not bloom, that's a dynamic crosshair... and that's in every FPS game that's good, other than Quake. Bloom is with the graphics, it created a little outer flow around models that softens the outside. Only with Halo it was set up in such a way that if you ignored bloom and just shot as fast as you could you could win against the player who was theoretically shooting right. Not to mention that the randomness made the shooting feel bad, like you should have hit someone and that didn't happen. It reminded me a lot of shooter-RPGs that have dice rolls for accuracy, only you don't want that with Halo. MLG settings now have bloom turned off (one of the things 343 did right), so we'll see. Still haven't returned to it though. old halo 1 map DLC replacing shitty Reach maps help too. Pretty sure that magnetic targetting carried over from H3 IIRC. That was one of the dumbest things they ever put in the game. Completely crippling game-skill. No auto-aim in console FPS = terrible games. You'd have terrible accuracy without it cause it's on a controller. No it isn't. I guess you've never played H1 or H2. It actually took practice and skill to shoot accurate. Getting 4shots consistently used to be a mark of a great player, now any schmoe can do it. (At least in H3) It was a complete and utter joke, especially removing BxR and all the other skill ceiling activities.
Halo 1/2 had autoaim. It just wasn't as bad as H3.
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Not a bad game by Ostojiy though. Quite entertaining. Another fantastic engagement by Polt gives him a decisive victory.
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On March 25 2012 10:49 FliedLice wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:48 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:46 Synwave wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:41 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:39 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:38 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:37 zefreak wrote:On March 25 2012 10:31 scarper65 wrote:
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I completely agree with you. It is just obnoxious, unpleasant noise. Rofl, you people complaining about dubstep must be like 50 years old. And don't act like you are too cultured for dubstep because I guarantee you would think most classical music and jazz is just noise as well, let alone serial or panchromatic music. I'm not saying that dubstep is comparable to Stravinsky or anything but open your mind. Music isn't supposed to just sound pleasing, some of it is supposed to be challenging and some of it is supposed to be aggressive. Dubstep is supposed to be aggressive. It is like the metal of electronic music. I listen to every kind of music, even death metal. Dubstep is not music. AND its surely not in the category of metal of electronic music. Only people who like it seems to be kids. No offense. They seem to like it, my kid brother is proof of it. You know, old people said the same thing about rock n roll back in the day. the only people that like it are kids. Well then you just proved my point! :D If your point was you sound like an old close-minded man, then yes, i did prove your point! Nope! But its for kids! yes I proved my point  Listen more to dumbstep, I bet your brains will be fried like radiation soon lolol. We get it you dont like the music and your generalizations make you happy. Stop spamming the thread with it already please, go create a thread to discuss the pros and cons of age vs musical taste or something. This shit is getting really old to read. Its the internet, I am free to say what I want to say, and you are free to ignore what I type. You don't have to feel compelled to read what I type. You really think you're really fucking smart, right? Just... wow.
I didn't say that, but if you think so, then thank you. Thats nice of you.
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On March 25 2012 10:48 SeventhPride wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:46 Synwave wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:41 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:39 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:38 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:37 zefreak wrote:On March 25 2012 10:31 scarper65 wrote:On March 25 2012 10:30 SeventhPride wrote:
okay, let me just clear this out of my chest. I really hate dubstep. And even if its gamer music, I would take classical music over it anytime. Seriously, do people call that music? Its so annoying. I completely agree with you. It is just obnoxious, unpleasant noise. Rofl, you people complaining about dubstep must be like 50 years old. And don't act like you are too cultured for dubstep because I guarantee you would think most classical music and jazz is just noise as well, let alone serial or panchromatic music. I'm not saying that dubstep is comparable to Stravinsky or anything but open your mind. Music isn't supposed to just sound pleasing, some of it is supposed to be challenging and some of it is supposed to be aggressive. Dubstep is supposed to be aggressive. It is like the metal of electronic music. I listen to every kind of music, even death metal. Dubstep is not music. AND its surely not in the category of metal of electronic music. Only people who like it seems to be kids. No offense. They seem to like it, my kid brother is proof of it. You know, old people said the same thing about rock n roll back in the day. the only people that like it are kids. Well then you just proved my point! :D If your point was you sound like an old close-minded man, then yes, i did prove your point! Nope! But its for kids! yes I proved my point Listen more to dumbstep, I bet your brains will be fried like radiation soon lolol. We get it you dont like the music and your generalizations make you happy. Stop spamming the thread with it already please, go create a thread to discuss the pros and cons of age vs musical taste or something. This shit is getting really old to read. Its the internet, I am free to say what I want to say, and you are free to ignore what I type. You don't have to feel compelled to read what I type.
Actually no, you do have to stay roughly on topic on this particular part of the internet. Obviously you want to discuss this or troll this thread to piss people off. Im asking you to create a thread for a discussion or stop with the trolling.
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On March 25 2012 10:45 SeventhPride wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:44 hifriend wrote:On March 25 2012 10:42 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:41 hifriend wrote:On March 25 2012 10:38 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:37 zefreak wrote:On March 25 2012 10:31 scarper65 wrote:On March 25 2012 10:30 SeventhPride wrote:
okay, let me just clear this out of my chest. I really hate dubstep. And even if its gamer music, I would take classical music over it anytime. Seriously, do people call that music? Its so annoying. I completely agree with you. It is just obnoxious, unpleasant noise. Rofl, you people complaining about dubstep must be like 50 years old. And don't act like you are too cultured for dubstep because I guarantee you would think most classical music and jazz is just noise as well, let alone serial or panchromatic music. I'm not saying that dubstep is comparable to Stravinsky or anything but open your mind. Music isn't supposed to just sound pleasing, some of it is supposed to be challenging and some of it is supposed to be aggressive. Dubstep is supposed to be aggressive. It is like the metal of electronic music. I listen to every kind of music, even death metal. Dubstep is not music. AND its surely not in the category of metal of electronic music. Only people who like it seems to be kids. No offense. They seem to like it, my kid brother is proof of it. Not a big fan of dubstep, but what you're saying is beyond retarded. :/ really? cause no one in my country likes it. Only the kids. if you think its good, go ahead, but it is the internet. I am free to what I say, at least I didn't say the N word. I personally don't but it is music and a lot of people seem to appreciate it, certainly not just kids.. seems to me only gamers like it. The only dubstep that everone likes is shufflin. Other then that :/ Even clubs don't play dubstep anymore. Been that way since a month ago.
Dubstep and shuffling is not even close to related also, why only gamers? you must have been spending way too much time under a rock.
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On March 25 2012 10:48 Hamdemon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:39 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 25 2012 10:36 nvs. wrote:On March 25 2012 10:34 megapants wrote:On March 25 2012 10:30 MooMu wrote:On March 25 2012 10:26 Hamdemon wrote:
I've missed the first day and a half of this tourney and feel like I've missed nothing. Blah blah blah koreans blah blah HuK blah Naniwa blah blah. A little interesting to see some new faces in the upper bracket though but they're just gonna get crushed 2-0 in lopsided matches. MLG should really be an NA tourney imo, does everyone really want to see the same 8 korean players or so who are well funded crushing through a bunch of fodder? Championship sunday is seeming more and more like the only point to these things.
(okay sorry for being a cynic but I've had a bad day) Take a shot or a toke, bro For real bro just chillax majorly harsh buzzkill NA only? So no ret, TLO, Grubby, Thorzain, Hasu, etc. etc. Sounds 1000x worse LOL. No one would pay to watch a NA tournament, no one would sponsor it, no one would care about it. Koreans are going to keep getting invited because people like watching them, they bring viewers and viewers bring money. To say nothing of the fact that any tournament that prevents legitimate competition from entering is something no one would feel crazy about winning. My point is more out of frustration that I feel the NA scene is hampered by a general lack of ability to get anywhere, we're being choped off at the legs. The only way to prove yourself is to be able to beat koreans, and realistically if our ladder is really worse and our players are worse, how are we supposed to improve? I just saw IdrA and Ostojiy fold like an accordion to basic hellion pressure that didn't even look that impressive to me. The koreans have GSL and the GSTL and a proleague coming up IN KOREA. We have a bunch of tourneys that for now, are just going to be flying koreans and a few really good euro players to utterly crush anything we have. We need our own dedicated league and every time we set one it gets filled up with koreans. We don't have pro houses where a group of 12 people are practicing 80+ hours a week strategizing together, and even if we did it'd take a while to catch up. The NA scene needs a shot in the arm by someone willing to give a decent place for NA players to grow without having to face up against the top-tier koreans just yet. We should at least have some sort of "minor league" that is consistent so that we can grow. I know it's not always korean vs foreigners, but they have infastructure and a culture setup that currently, we can't compete with until we grow seperately.
You get better by playing with the best, if you play with worse players you will only be good enough to beat worse players.
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On March 25 2012 10:47 SeventhPride wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:46 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:41 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:39 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:38 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:37 zefreak wrote:On March 25 2012 10:31 scarper65 wrote:On March 25 2012 10:30 SeventhPride wrote:
okay, let me just clear this out of my chest. I really hate dubstep. And even if its gamer music, I would take classical music over it anytime. Seriously, do people call that music? Its so annoying. I completely agree with you. It is just obnoxious, unpleasant noise. Rofl, you people complaining about dubstep must be like 50 years old. And don't act like you are too cultured for dubstep because I guarantee you would think most classical music and jazz is just noise as well, let alone serial or panchromatic music. I'm not saying that dubstep is comparable to Stravinsky or anything but open your mind. Music isn't supposed to just sound pleasing, some of it is supposed to be challenging and some of it is supposed to be aggressive. Dubstep is supposed to be aggressive. It is like the metal of electronic music. I listen to every kind of music, even death metal. Dubstep is not music. AND its surely not in the category of metal of electronic music. Only people who like it seems to be kids. No offense. They seem to like it, my kid brother is proof of it. You know, old people said the same thing about rock n roll back in the day. the only people that like it are kids. Well then you just proved my point! :D If your point was you sound like an old close-minded man, then yes, i did prove your point! Nope! But its for kids! yes I proved my point Listen more to dumbstep, I bet your brains will be fried like radiation soon lolol. you do realize how much of a jackass you sound like right? Define kids? I mean I know a ton of people in there 20s and 30s that listen to dubstep Wow personal attack? I was sure team liquid doesn't allow it. becareful bro, don't want you getting ban. Or are you 13? lol, I see, now I know why you are so pissed.
I didn't call you a jackass, I said you sound like one. And nope, I'm 22. And I hate when people try to shit on other genres of music because of opinion. Listen to what you like and let other people listen to what they like. Its complete ignorance.
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On March 25 2012 10:49 shabby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:48 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:46 Synwave wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:41 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:39 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:38 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:37 zefreak wrote:On March 25 2012 10:31 scarper65 wrote:
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I completely agree with you. It is just obnoxious, unpleasant noise. Rofl, you people complaining about dubstep must be like 50 years old. And don't act like you are too cultured for dubstep because I guarantee you would think most classical music and jazz is just noise as well, let alone serial or panchromatic music. I'm not saying that dubstep is comparable to Stravinsky or anything but open your mind. Music isn't supposed to just sound pleasing, some of it is supposed to be challenging and some of it is supposed to be aggressive. Dubstep is supposed to be aggressive. It is like the metal of electronic music. I listen to every kind of music, even death metal. Dubstep is not music. AND its surely not in the category of metal of electronic music. Only people who like it seems to be kids. No offense. They seem to like it, my kid brother is proof of it. You know, old people said the same thing about rock n roll back in the day. the only people that like it are kids. Well then you just proved my point! :D If your point was you sound like an old close-minded man, then yes, i did prove your point! Nope! But its for kids! yes I proved my point Listen more to dumbstep, I bet your brains will be fried like radiation soon lolol. We get it you dont like the music and your generalizations make you happy. Stop spamming the thread with it already please, go create a thread to discuss the pros and cons of age vs musical taste or something. This shit is getting really old to read. Its the internet, I am free to say what I want to say, and you are free to ignore what I type. You don't have to feel compelled to read what I type. But it is a live report thread.
Precisely, the live report thread. Dumbstep was played during it. Thanks for protecting my ass.
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On March 25 2012 10:49 Femari wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:43 Wegandi wrote:On March 25 2012 10:39 Femari wrote:On March 25 2012 10:37 Wegandi wrote:On March 25 2012 10:28 DystopiaX wrote:On March 25 2012 10:26 anonymitylol wrote:On March 25 2012 10:25 Femari wrote:On March 25 2012 10:21 Dumboprime wrote:On March 25 2012 10:18 Femari wrote:On March 25 2012 10:17 Mysticesper wrote:
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What changed in Halo: Reach? I don't know anything about it, but I find it hard to believe a console FPS game can change all that much. Bloom, equipment, no BR, etc. Not to mention the maps Bungie made were pretty bad. It just wasnt fun at all. It was boring, especially the maps. What's Bloom? In FPS games you have the target built in, well with bloom there is a circle that expands when you move or shoot, meaning your accuracy goes down. So if you shoot you have to wait for your circle to get small again to shoot or you'll miss. Works in Shadowrun, but not Halo. That's not bloom, that's a dynamic crosshair... and that's in every FPS game that's good, other than Quake. Bloom is with the graphics, it created a little outer flow around models that softens the outside. Only with Halo it was set up in such a way that if you ignored bloom and just shot as fast as you could you could win against the player who was theoretically shooting right. Not to mention that the randomness made the shooting feel bad, like you should have hit someone and that didn't happen. It reminded me a lot of shooter-RPGs that have dice rolls for accuracy, only you don't want that with Halo. MLG settings now have bloom turned off (one of the things 343 did right), so we'll see. Still haven't returned to it though. old halo 1 map DLC replacing shitty Reach maps help too. Pretty sure that magnetic targetting carried over from H3 IIRC. That was one of the dumbest things they ever put in the game. Completely crippling game-skill. No auto-aim in console FPS = terrible games. You'd have terrible accuracy without it cause it's on a controller. No it isn't. I guess you've never played H1 or H2. It actually took practice and skill to shoot accurate. Getting 4shots consistently used to be a mark of a great player, now any schmoe can do it. (At least in H3) It was a complete and utter joke, especially removing BxR and all the other skill ceiling activities. Halo 1/2 had autoaim. It just wasn't as bad as H3.
It was more on the sniper than on the BR which wanst so bad except that you didnt want it on the sniper.
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How did this thread get derailed so hard?
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On March 25 2012 10:50 Synwave wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:48 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:46 Synwave wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:41 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:39 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:38 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:37 zefreak wrote:On March 25 2012 10:31 scarper65 wrote:
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I completely agree with you. It is just obnoxious, unpleasant noise. Rofl, you people complaining about dubstep must be like 50 years old. And don't act like you are too cultured for dubstep because I guarantee you would think most classical music and jazz is just noise as well, let alone serial or panchromatic music. I'm not saying that dubstep is comparable to Stravinsky or anything but open your mind. Music isn't supposed to just sound pleasing, some of it is supposed to be challenging and some of it is supposed to be aggressive. Dubstep is supposed to be aggressive. It is like the metal of electronic music. I listen to every kind of music, even death metal. Dubstep is not music. AND its surely not in the category of metal of electronic music. Only people who like it seems to be kids. No offense. They seem to like it, my kid brother is proof of it. You know, old people said the same thing about rock n roll back in the day. the only people that like it are kids. Well then you just proved my point! :D If your point was you sound like an old close-minded man, then yes, i did prove your point! Nope! But its for kids! yes I proved my point Listen more to dumbstep, I bet your brains will be fried like radiation soon lolol. We get it you dont like the music and your generalizations make you happy. Stop spamming the thread with it already please, go create a thread to discuss the pros and cons of age vs musical taste or something. This shit is getting really old to read. Its the internet, I am free to say what I want to say, and you are free to ignore what I type. You don't have to feel compelled to read what I type. Actually no, you do have to stay roughly on topic on this particular part of the internet. Obviously you want to discuss this or troll this thread to piss people off. Im asking you to create a thread for a discussion or stop with the trolling.
Dubstep was played during the mlg. It was played ON stream. Is that not live? You should stop assuming people are trolling and accusing others.
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On March 25 2012 10:50 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:47 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:46 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:41 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:39 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:38 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:37 zefreak wrote:On March 25 2012 10:31 scarper65 wrote:
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I completely agree with you. It is just obnoxious, unpleasant noise. Rofl, you people complaining about dubstep must be like 50 years old. And don't act like you are too cultured for dubstep because I guarantee you would think most classical music and jazz is just noise as well, let alone serial or panchromatic music. I'm not saying that dubstep is comparable to Stravinsky or anything but open your mind. Music isn't supposed to just sound pleasing, some of it is supposed to be challenging and some of it is supposed to be aggressive. Dubstep is supposed to be aggressive. It is like the metal of electronic music. I listen to every kind of music, even death metal. Dubstep is not music. AND its surely not in the category of metal of electronic music. Only people who like it seems to be kids. No offense. They seem to like it, my kid brother is proof of it. You know, old people said the same thing about rock n roll back in the day. the only people that like it are kids. Well then you just proved my point! :D If your point was you sound like an old close-minded man, then yes, i did prove your point! Nope! But its for kids! yes I proved my point Listen more to dumbstep, I bet your brains will be fried like radiation soon lolol. you do realize how much of a jackass you sound like right? Define kids? I mean I know a ton of people in there 20s and 30s that listen to dubstep Wow personal attack? I was sure team liquid doesn't allow it. becareful bro, don't want you getting ban. Or are you 13? lol, I see, now I know why you are so pissed. I didn't call you a jackass, I said you sound like one. And nope, I'm 22. And I hate when people try to shit on other genres of music because of opinion. Listen to what you like and let other people listen to what they like. Its complete ignorance.
Yeah, it's hilarious. "I LOVE MUSIC EXCEPT THESE 30GENRES THAT I JUST RAMBLED"
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SeleCT is playing sooo well.
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On March 25 2012 10:50 Shellshock1122 wrote:
How did this thread get derailed so hard?
None of the starcraft games atm are terrific games though it looks like select is about to doom drop grubby.
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On March 25 2012 10:49 Femari wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:43 Wegandi wrote:On March 25 2012 10:39 Femari wrote:On March 25 2012 10:37 Wegandi wrote:On March 25 2012 10:28 DystopiaX wrote:On March 25 2012 10:26 anonymitylol wrote:On March 25 2012 10:25 Femari wrote:On March 25 2012 10:21 Dumboprime wrote:On March 25 2012 10:18 Femari wrote:On March 25 2012 10:17 Mysticesper wrote:
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What changed in Halo: Reach? I don't know anything about it, but I find it hard to believe a console FPS game can change all that much. Bloom, equipment, no BR, etc. Not to mention the maps Bungie made were pretty bad. It just wasnt fun at all. It was boring, especially the maps. What's Bloom? In FPS games you have the target built in, well with bloom there is a circle that expands when you move or shoot, meaning your accuracy goes down. So if you shoot you have to wait for your circle to get small again to shoot or you'll miss. Works in Shadowrun, but not Halo. That's not bloom, that's a dynamic crosshair... and that's in every FPS game that's good, other than Quake. Bloom is with the graphics, it created a little outer flow around models that softens the outside. Only with Halo it was set up in such a way that if you ignored bloom and just shot as fast as you could you could win against the player who was theoretically shooting right. Not to mention that the randomness made the shooting feel bad, like you should have hit someone and that didn't happen. It reminded me a lot of shooter-RPGs that have dice rolls for accuracy, only you don't want that with Halo. MLG settings now have bloom turned off (one of the things 343 did right), so we'll see. Still haven't returned to it though. old halo 1 map DLC replacing shitty Reach maps help too. Pretty sure that magnetic targetting carried over from H3 IIRC. That was one of the dumbest things they ever put in the game. Completely crippling game-skill. No auto-aim in console FPS = terrible games. You'd have terrible accuracy without it cause it's on a controller. No it isn't. I guess you've never played H1 or H2. It actually took practice and skill to shoot accurate. Getting 4shots consistently used to be a mark of a great player, now any schmoe can do it. (At least in H3) It was a complete and utter joke, especially removing BxR and all the other skill ceiling activities. Halo 1/2 had autoaim. It just wasn't as bad as H3.
Halo 2's autoaim > Halo 3's Autoaim > Halo's.
Either way, these new MLG settings have actually made Reach watchable.
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Puma one game AWAY!~ ...from being eliminated
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The immortal allin will be very hard to stop without stim or combat shields.
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