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Please have some respect for the players, teams, and tournament.
Criticism is fine, criticism without anything to back it up isn't so cool.
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On March 25 2012 10:50 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:47 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:46 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:41 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:39 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:38 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:37 zefreak wrote:On March 25 2012 10:31 scarper65 wrote:
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I completely agree with you. It is just obnoxious, unpleasant noise. Rofl, you people complaining about dubstep must be like 50 years old. And don't act like you are too cultured for dubstep because I guarantee you would think most classical music and jazz is just noise as well, let alone serial or panchromatic music. I'm not saying that dubstep is comparable to Stravinsky or anything but open your mind. Music isn't supposed to just sound pleasing, some of it is supposed to be challenging and some of it is supposed to be aggressive. Dubstep is supposed to be aggressive. It is like the metal of electronic music. I listen to every kind of music, even death metal. Dubstep is not music. AND its surely not in the category of metal of electronic music. Only people who like it seems to be kids. No offense. They seem to like it, my kid brother is proof of it. You know, old people said the same thing about rock n roll back in the day. the only people that like it are kids. Well then you just proved my point! :D If your point was you sound like an old close-minded man, then yes, i did prove your point! Nope! But its for kids! yes I proved my point  Listen more to dumbstep, I bet your brains will be fried like radiation soon lolol. you do realize how much of a jackass you sound like right? Define kids? I mean I know a ton of people in there 20s and 30s that listen to dubstep Wow personal attack? I was sure team liquid doesn't allow it. becareful bro, don't want you getting ban. Or are you 13? lol, I see, now I know why you are so pissed. I didn't call you a jackass, I said you sound like one. And nope, I'm 22. And I hate when people try to shit on other genres of music because of opinion. Listen to what you like and let other people listen to what they like. Its complete ignorance.
Did I say NO YOU CAN'T LISTEN TO DUB STEP? no I didn't. I just give a opinion. Just like how you called me a jack ass. Which is a personal attack.
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On March 25 2012 10:48 Hamdemon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:39 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 25 2012 10:36 nvs. wrote:On March 25 2012 10:34 megapants wrote:On March 25 2012 10:30 MooMu wrote:On March 25 2012 10:26 Hamdemon wrote:
I've missed the first day and a half of this tourney and feel like I've missed nothing. Blah blah blah koreans blah blah HuK blah Naniwa blah blah. A little interesting to see some new faces in the upper bracket though but they're just gonna get crushed 2-0 in lopsided matches. MLG should really be an NA tourney imo, does everyone really want to see the same 8 korean players or so who are well funded crushing through a bunch of fodder? Championship sunday is seeming more and more like the only point to these things.
(okay sorry for being a cynic but I've had a bad day) Take a shot or a toke, bro For real bro just chillax majorly harsh buzzkill NA only? So no ret, TLO, Grubby, Thorzain, Hasu, etc. etc. Sounds 1000x worse LOL. No one would pay to watch a NA tournament, no one would sponsor it, no one would care about it. Koreans are going to keep getting invited because people like watching them, they bring viewers and viewers bring money. To say nothing of the fact that any tournament that prevents legitimate competition from entering is something no one would feel crazy about winning. My point is more out of frustration that I feel the NA scene is hampered by a general lack of ability to get anywhere, we're being choped off at the legs. The only way to prove yourself is to be able to beat koreans, and realistically if our ladder is really worse and our players are worse, how are we supposed to improve? I just saw IdrA and Ostojiy fold like an accordion to basic hellion pressure that didn't even look that impressive to me. The koreans have GSL and the GSTL and a proleague coming up IN KOREA. We have a bunch of tourneys that for now, are just going to be flying koreans and a few really good euro players to utterly crush anything we have. We need our own dedicated league and every time we set one it gets filled up with koreans. We don't have pro houses where a group of 12 people are practicing 80+ hours a week strategizing together, and even if we did it'd take a while to catch up. The NA scene needs a shot in the arm by someone willing to give a decent place for NA players to grow without having to face up against the top-tier koreans just yet. We should at least have some sort of "minor league" that is consistent so that we can grow. I know it's not always korean vs foreigners, but they have infastructure and a culture setup that currently, we can't compete with until we grow seperately.
Most NA players are making decent money though and earn a salary. Nothing stopping players from multiple teams renting a house together like TLO did in Sweden.
You don't even need to live in the same house, you have skype/battle.net.
How many NA players are actually practising 8-10 hours a day 6 days a week, week after week after week for months on end?
I don't think many and I'd estimate zero.
Until they do that I don't think they can whine about infrastructure.
I don't think you get better playing worse players either.
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Grubby not impressing at all.
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I honestly think SeleCT hasn't scouted that 4th base yet lol, he keeps pushing the dead third ><
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I listen to all types of trance/electronic and its subgenres like hardstyle, progressive, vocal trance, discotronic but dubstep is straight up garbage.
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On March 25 2012 10:49 Archybaldie wrote:
With how passive select was for the majority of the game i'd be suprised if grubby loses.
color u surprised :D
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Oh shut up about dubstep. Nobody cares about your music taste.
Either discuss the games or shut up.
And damn, Grubby seems kinda dead. I really want him to advance T_T
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On March 25 2012 10:52 SeventhPride wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:50 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:47 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:46 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:41 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:39 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:38 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:37 zefreak wrote:
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Rofl, you people complaining about dubstep must be like 50 years old.
And don't act like you are too cultured for dubstep because I guarantee you would think most classical music and jazz is just noise as well, let alone serial or panchromatic music.
I'm not saying that dubstep is comparable to Stravinsky or anything but open your mind. Music isn't supposed to just sound pleasing, some of it is supposed to be challenging and some of it is supposed to be aggressive. Dubstep is supposed to be aggressive. It is like the metal of electronic music. I listen to every kind of music, even death metal. Dubstep is not music. AND its surely not in the category of metal of electronic music. Only people who like it seems to be kids. No offense. They seem to like it, my kid brother is proof of it. You know, old people said the same thing about rock n roll back in the day. the only people that like it are kids. Well then you just proved my point! :D If your point was you sound like an old close-minded man, then yes, i did prove your point! Nope! But its for kids! yes I proved my point Listen more to dumbstep, I bet your brains will be fried like radiation soon lolol. you do realize how much of a jackass you sound like right? Define kids? I mean I know a ton of people in there 20s and 30s that listen to dubstep Wow personal attack? I was sure team liquid doesn't allow it. becareful bro, don't want you getting ban. Or are you 13? lol, I see, now I know why you are so pissed. I didn't call you a jackass, I said you sound like one. And nope, I'm 22. And I hate when people try to shit on other genres of music because of opinion. Listen to what you like and let other people listen to what they like. Its complete ignorance. Did I say NO YOU CAN'T LISTEN TO DUB STEP? no I didn't. I just give a opinion. Just like how you called me a jack ass. Which is a personal attack.
Get back when you can actually spell the genre correctly.
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On March 25 2012 10:52 SeventhPride wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:50 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:47 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:46 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:41 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:39 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:38 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:37 zefreak wrote:
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Rofl, you people complaining about dubstep must be like 50 years old.
And don't act like you are too cultured for dubstep because I guarantee you would think most classical music and jazz is just noise as well, let alone serial or panchromatic music.
I'm not saying that dubstep is comparable to Stravinsky or anything but open your mind. Music isn't supposed to just sound pleasing, some of it is supposed to be challenging and some of it is supposed to be aggressive. Dubstep is supposed to be aggressive. It is like the metal of electronic music. I listen to every kind of music, even death metal. Dubstep is not music. AND its surely not in the category of metal of electronic music. Only people who like it seems to be kids. No offense. They seem to like it, my kid brother is proof of it. You know, old people said the same thing about rock n roll back in the day. the only people that like it are kids. Well then you just proved my point! :D If your point was you sound like an old close-minded man, then yes, i did prove your point! Nope! But its for kids! yes I proved my point Listen more to dumbstep, I bet your brains will be fried like radiation soon lolol. you do realize how much of a jackass you sound like right? Define kids? I mean I know a ton of people in there 20s and 30s that listen to dubstep Wow personal attack? I was sure team liquid doesn't allow it. becareful bro, don't want you getting ban. Or are you 13? lol, I see, now I know why you are so pissed. I didn't call you a jackass, I said you sound like one. And nope, I'm 22. And I hate when people try to shit on other genres of music because of opinion. Listen to what you like and let other people listen to what they like. Its complete ignorance. Did I say NO YOU CAN'T LISTEN TO DUB STEP? no I didn't. I just give a opinion. Just like how you called me a jack ass. Which is a personal attack.
Your an idiot just stop talking honestly.
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On March 25 2012 10:48 Hamdemon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:39 Vindicare605 wrote:On March 25 2012 10:36 nvs. wrote:On March 25 2012 10:34 megapants wrote:On March 25 2012 10:30 MooMu wrote:On March 25 2012 10:26 Hamdemon wrote:
I've missed the first day and a half of this tourney and feel like I've missed nothing. Blah blah blah koreans blah blah HuK blah Naniwa blah blah. A little interesting to see some new faces in the upper bracket though but they're just gonna get crushed 2-0 in lopsided matches. MLG should really be an NA tourney imo, does everyone really want to see the same 8 korean players or so who are well funded crushing through a bunch of fodder? Championship sunday is seeming more and more like the only point to these things.
(okay sorry for being a cynic but I've had a bad day) Take a shot or a toke, bro For real bro just chillax majorly harsh buzzkill NA only? So no ret, TLO, Grubby, Thorzain, Hasu, etc. etc. Sounds 1000x worse LOL. No one would pay to watch a NA tournament, no one would sponsor it, no one would care about it. Koreans are going to keep getting invited because people like watching them, they bring viewers and viewers bring money. To say nothing of the fact that any tournament that prevents legitimate competition from entering is something no one would feel crazy about winning. My point is more out of frustration that I feel the NA scene is hampered by a general lack of ability to get anywhere, we're being choped off at the legs. The only way to prove yourself is to be able to beat koreans, and realistically if our ladder is really worse and our players are worse, how are we supposed to improve? I just saw IdrA and Ostojiy fold like an accordion to basic hellion pressure that didn't even look that impressive to me. The koreans have GSL and the GSTL and a proleague coming up IN KOREA. We have a bunch of tourneys that for now, are just going to be flying koreans and a few really good euro players to utterly crush anything we have. We need our own dedicated league and every time we set one it gets filled up with koreans. We don't have pro houses where a group of 12 people are practicing 80+ hours a week strategizing together, and even if we did it'd take a while to catch up. The NA scene needs a shot in the arm by someone willing to give a decent place for NA players to grow without having to face up against the top-tier koreans just yet. We should at least have some sort of "minor league" that is consistent so that we can grow. I know it's not always korean vs foreigners, but they have infastructure and a culture setup that currently, we can't compete with until we grow seperately.
Well then you should be looking to simply create more small scale leagues. Koreans aren't going to bother showing up to events if it isn't worth it for them.
There's no reason there can't be a semi-pro North American league (the NASL comes to mind) that is smaller scale with less financial incentive to draw in the big Korean boys, but you're still going to have to contend with European pros.
Basically as long as people can make money, they're going to pursue it. The incentive to improve has to be beyond simply making money. That's the big difference about the Koreans and the North Americans. The people over there legitimately care about improving, and being the best. Over here, the motivation is about being able to make money.
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Socke won game 1 against Puma? Nice
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On March 25 2012 10:52 Thinasy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:52 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:50 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:47 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:46 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:41 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:39 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:38 SeventhPride wrote:
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I listen to every kind of music, even death metal. Dubstep is not music. AND its surely not in the category of metal of electronic music. Only people who like it seems to be kids. No offense. They seem to like it, my kid brother is proof of it. You know, old people said the same thing about rock n roll back in the day. the only people that like it are kids. Well then you just proved my point! :D If your point was you sound like an old close-minded man, then yes, i did prove your point! Nope! But its for kids! yes I proved my point Listen more to dumbstep, I bet your brains will be fried like radiation soon lolol. you do realize how much of a jackass you sound like right? Define kids? I mean I know a ton of people in there 20s and 30s that listen to dubstep Wow personal attack? I was sure team liquid doesn't allow it. becareful bro, don't want you getting ban. Or are you 13? lol, I see, now I know why you are so pissed. I didn't call you a jackass, I said you sound like one. And nope, I'm 22. And I hate when people try to shit on other genres of music because of opinion. Listen to what you like and let other people listen to what they like. Its complete ignorance. Did I say NO YOU CAN'T LISTEN TO DUB STEP? no I didn't. I just give a opinion. Just like how you called me a jack ass. Which is a personal attack. Get back when you can actually spell the genre correctly.
Oh a spacing mistake is a big problem? and btw, I will do what I want.
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On March 25 2012 10:52 zev318 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:49 Archybaldie wrote:
With how passive select was for the majority of the game i'd be suprised if grubby loses. color u surprised :D
Yup!
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grubby cross-train brood war please lol, economy game vs micro game is definitely holding back his play
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damn, that was pretty nice.
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On March 25 2012 10:50 SeventhPride wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:49 shabby wrote:On March 25 2012 10:48 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:46 Synwave wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:41 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:39 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:38 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:37 zefreak wrote:
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Rofl, you people complaining about dubstep must be like 50 years old.
And don't act like you are too cultured for dubstep because I guarantee you would think most classical music and jazz is just noise as well, let alone serial or panchromatic music.
I'm not saying that dubstep is comparable to Stravinsky or anything but open your mind. Music isn't supposed to just sound pleasing, some of it is supposed to be challenging and some of it is supposed to be aggressive. Dubstep is supposed to be aggressive. It is like the metal of electronic music. I listen to every kind of music, even death metal. Dubstep is not music. AND its surely not in the category of metal of electronic music. Only people who like it seems to be kids. No offense. They seem to like it, my kid brother is proof of it. You know, old people said the same thing about rock n roll back in the day. the only people that like it are kids. Well then you just proved my point! :D If your point was you sound like an old close-minded man, then yes, i did prove your point! Nope! But its for kids! yes I proved my point Listen more to dumbstep, I bet your brains will be fried like radiation soon lolol. We get it you dont like the music and your generalizations make you happy. Stop spamming the thread with it already please, go create a thread to discuss the pros and cons of age vs musical taste or something. This shit is getting really old to read. Its the internet, I am free to say what I want to say, and you are free to ignore what I type. You don't have to feel compelled to read what I type. But it is a live report thread. Precisely, the live report thread. Dumbstep was played during it. Thanks for protecting my ass.
I didn't mean to back you up, I meant for you to make your own thread and stop discussing dubstep here. You are not even discussing the dubstep that was played, you are discussing the musical genre and its target audience.
Back on topic: Socke totally beating Puma out of the tourney.
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On March 25 2012 10:53 SeventhPride wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:52 Thinasy wrote:On March 25 2012 10:52 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:50 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:47 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:46 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:43 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:41 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 10:39 jmbthirteen wrote:
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You know, old people said the same thing about rock n roll back in the day. the only people that like it are kids. Well then you just proved my point! :D If your point was you sound like an old close-minded man, then yes, i did prove your point! Nope! But its for kids! yes I proved my point Listen more to dumbstep, I bet your brains will be fried like radiation soon lolol. you do realize how much of a jackass you sound like right? Define kids? I mean I know a ton of people in there 20s and 30s that listen to dubstep Wow personal attack? I was sure team liquid doesn't allow it. becareful bro, don't want you getting ban. Or are you 13? lol, I see, now I know why you are so pissed. I didn't call you a jackass, I said you sound like one. And nope, I'm 22. And I hate when people try to shit on other genres of music because of opinion. Listen to what you like and let other people listen to what they like. Its complete ignorance. Did I say NO YOU CAN'T LISTEN TO DUB STEP? no I didn't. I just give a opinion. Just like how you called me a jack ass. Which is a personal attack. Get back when you can actually spell the genre correctly. Oh a spacing mistake is a big problem? and btw, I will do what I want.
Yeah it's a big problem when you are trying to make a point.
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