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On March 24 2012 21:28 Terminal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 20:53 zefreak wrote:On March 24 2012 20:04 b0rt_ wrote:that 3-1 caster prediction of naniwa beating drg was ridiculous. Do they not watch this game?  Pretty ridiculous. Artosis is the only one who can even play starcraft at a semi-high level, so its no surprise that the other casters don't appreciate his play. I don't care what anyone thinks, you cannot have a deep understanding of high level starcraft unless you also play at a somewhat high level. Otherwise you end up like Tasteless who only cares about cute plays and micro tricks. MKP's factory wall against DRG in the Winter Arena did for him what months of fast, aggressive and intelligent play couldn't. Look at him drool over Naniwa because of his micro in the Winter Arena. He now thinks Naniwa is the best protoss in the world. He is just incapable at his level of appreciating the play of intelligent, non flashy play. If it weren't for Artosis telling him to like and who to dislike he wouldn't know what was going on. I realize this turned into a tasteless rant even though I love the guy. He is just a particularly relevant example. Almost all casters are guilty of this. I don't mean to pick on tasteless. Artosis isn't the only caster who can play at a semi-high level so you're wrong there for starters. And you realize somebody in Tasteless' position is just doing there job too, right? His job is to also hype and sell the players and point out the more casual-friendly fancy things for the majority of spectators. Though I'm sure he can differentiate good from bad play with the experience he has he'll leave that role to somebody like Artosis, who yes - has more understanding of the game and intelligent play but I wouldn't say Tasteless has zero knowledge and only cares about cute players and micro tricks, it's just that's not his position to do so most of the time.
Look, all I can base this off of is what he says publicly. I think that he betrays a shallow understanding of the game based on both his casting as well as his predictions. I realize he is the play by play caster and not the analyst, but he often does make predictions and calls games, and sometimes he is completely wrong.
I think he has done a lot for the community and personally think he is one of the people I would get along with the most. I would love to get some drinks with the guy but I just think his game knowledge isn't deep enough to appreciate really high level play that isn't flashy (in other words, obvious).
And what casters can play at a high level besides artosis? I'm genuinely curious. I really like dApollo's casting and know he plays as well, but I'm not very knowledgeable regarding his skill.
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On March 24 2012 21:46 mememolly wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 21:35 WolfintheSheep wrote:On March 24 2012 21:31 mememolly wrote:On March 24 2012 20:53 Neelia wrote:On March 24 2012 19:09 mememolly wrote:On March 24 2012 18:45 TheMexican wrote:
horrible first day, soundissues, overlayissues, hp's were always turned off and very few games (as usual) on the free streams.ATROCIOUS obersving in the games that were shown, horrible casters besides the "established"ones ofc (<3 at least day 9 was back, though he could not save the first day) combined with the demuslim-drg decision....had to turn off after that, just horrible.
sry mlg but that is neither getting potential new costumers nor making those that do pay satisifed to win them over longterm.
not sure whether or not i will be watching the rest, and im sure im not the only one gotta admit this is the worst mlg i've watched so far, they haven't fix a lot of things from last season, the pools are still stupid and unfair and still no seeding in open bracket, all the casting has gotten worse, rather have husky than some of these dudes, stream has to refreshed after every ad, lots of downtime between games, I expected it to get smoother and more refined but its gotten worse, which is weird because a bunch of university kids managed to get it so right last week The season just started, on what should the seeding be based besides Winter Arena (+ WA qualifier) results? TLPD ELO? Won Pricemoney? Fan Votes? Your Private Seeding System? If People don't have any MLG points cause they didn't play in the prior ones of the respective season they may get unlucky brackets cause they didn't earn a seed. -_- take into consideration tourney results from things over than MLG, it's not rocket science Right. So how does an Ro64 Code A finish compare to an 11th place IEM finish? so stephano and polt should go unseeded in the open bracket?
If they don't have any MLG points, of course. It's bad enough GomTv screws around with giving out arbitrary seeds..
On March 24 2012 22:00 zefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 21:28 Terminal wrote:On March 24 2012 20:53 zefreak wrote:On March 24 2012 20:04 b0rt_ wrote:that 3-1 caster prediction of naniwa beating drg was ridiculous. Do they not watch this game? Pretty ridiculous. Artosis is the only one who can even play starcraft at a semi-high level, so its no surprise that the other casters don't appreciate his play. I don't care what anyone thinks, you cannot have a deep understanding of high level starcraft unless you also play at a somewhat high level. Otherwise you end up like Tasteless who only cares about cute plays and micro tricks. MKP's factory wall against DRG in the Winter Arena did for him what months of fast, aggressive and intelligent play couldn't. Look at him drool over Naniwa because of his micro in the Winter Arena. He now thinks Naniwa is the best protoss in the world. He is just incapable at his level of appreciating the play of intelligent, non flashy play. If it weren't for Artosis telling him to like and who to dislike he wouldn't know what was going on. I realize this turned into a tasteless rant even though I love the guy. He is just a particularly relevant example. Almost all casters are guilty of this. I don't mean to pick on tasteless. Artosis isn't the only caster who can play at a semi-high level so you're wrong there for starters. And you realize somebody in Tasteless' position is just doing there job too, right? His job is to also hype and sell the players and point out the more casual-friendly fancy things for the majority of spectators. Though I'm sure he can differentiate good from bad play with the experience he has he'll leave that role to somebody like Artosis, who yes - has more understanding of the game and intelligent play but I wouldn't say Tasteless has zero knowledge and only cares about cute players and micro tricks, it's just that's not his position to do so most of the time. Look, all I can base this off of is what he says publicly. I think that he betrays a shallow understanding of the game based on both his casting as well as his predictions. I realize he is the play by play caster and not the analyst, but he often does make predictions and calls games, and sometimes he is completely wrong. I think he has done a lot for the community and personally think he is one of the people I would get along with the most. I would love to get some drinks with the guy but I just think his game knowledge isn't deep enough to appreciate really high level play that isn't flashy (in other words, obvious). And what casters can play at a high level besides artosis? I'm genuinely curious. I really like dApollo's casting and know he plays as well, but I'm not very knowledgeable regarding his skill.
Isn't Rotterdam on the edge to EU GM with his Toss? Apollo is mid - high masters on EU as Random I think.
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On March 24 2012 21:46 0ne wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 21:35 WolfintheSheep wrote:On March 24 2012 21:31 mememolly wrote:On March 24 2012 20:53 Neelia wrote:On March 24 2012 19:09 mememolly wrote:On March 24 2012 18:45 TheMexican wrote:
horrible first day, soundissues, overlayissues, hp's were always turned off and very few games (as usual) on the free streams.ATROCIOUS obersving in the games that were shown, horrible casters besides the "established"ones ofc (<3 at least day 9 was back, though he could not save the first day) combined with the demuslim-drg decision....had to turn off after that, just horrible.
sry mlg but that is neither getting potential new costumers nor making those that do pay satisifed to win them over longterm.
not sure whether or not i will be watching the rest, and im sure im not the only one gotta admit this is the worst mlg i've watched so far, they haven't fix a lot of things from last season, the pools are still stupid and unfair and still no seeding in open bracket, all the casting has gotten worse, rather have husky than some of these dudes, stream has to refreshed after every ad, lots of downtime between games, I expected it to get smoother and more refined but its gotten worse, which is weird because a bunch of university kids managed to get it so right last week The season just started, on what should the seeding be based besides Winter Arena (+ WA qualifier) results? TLPD ELO? Won Pricemoney? Fan Votes? Your Private Seeding System? If People don't have any MLG points cause they didn't play in the prior ones of the respective season they may get unlucky brackets cause they didn't earn a seed. -_- take into consideration tourney results from things over than MLG, it's not rocket science Right. So how does an Ro64 Code A finish compare to an 11th place IEM finish? Don't bother trying to argue about this. People is just mad that Stephano is out of the winners bracket after they were talking about him about to win MLG and become the best zerg in the world. Now they have to create some drama and blame MLG's system when there's no way to seed Stephano and Polt because they didn't want to play in the winter arena. It's fine, they wanted to play in other tournament, but now it's his fault that they met so early and not MLG's + Show Spoiler +
It was just very unfortunate that the 2 best players (i know arguably...) were to play in the open bracket this early. but yeah that happens, still the other problems of this mlg remain, and that makes me a little bit angry. i realize it's huge compared to the lone clash, yet there somehow the actual experience on stream was better though the production cost were probably a 100th of what mlg is paying. sth is just not right there.
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The VOD of streams 2 and 3 are not available ?
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On March 24 2012 22:00 Neelia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 21:46 mememolly wrote:On March 24 2012 21:35 WolfintheSheep wrote:On March 24 2012 21:31 mememolly wrote:On March 24 2012 20:53 Neelia wrote:On March 24 2012 19:09 mememolly wrote:On March 24 2012 18:45 TheMexican wrote:
horrible first day, soundissues, overlayissues, hp's were always turned off and very few games (as usual) on the free streams.ATROCIOUS obersving in the games that were shown, horrible casters besides the "established"ones ofc (<3 at least day 9 was back, though he could not save the first day) combined with the demuslim-drg decision....had to turn off after that, just horrible.
sry mlg but that is neither getting potential new costumers nor making those that do pay satisifed to win them over longterm.
not sure whether or not i will be watching the rest, and im sure im not the only one gotta admit this is the worst mlg i've watched so far, they haven't fix a lot of things from last season, the pools are still stupid and unfair and still no seeding in open bracket, all the casting has gotten worse, rather have husky than some of these dudes, stream has to refreshed after every ad, lots of downtime between games, I expected it to get smoother and more refined but its gotten worse, which is weird because a bunch of university kids managed to get it so right last week The season just started, on what should the seeding be based besides Winter Arena (+ WA qualifier) results? TLPD ELO? Won Pricemoney? Fan Votes? Your Private Seeding System? If People don't have any MLG points cause they didn't play in the prior ones of the respective season they may get unlucky brackets cause they didn't earn a seed. -_- take into consideration tourney results from things over than MLG, it's not rocket science Right. So how does an Ro64 Code A finish compare to an 11th place IEM finish? so stephano and polt should go unseeded in the open bracket? If they don't have any MLG points, of course. It's bad enough GomTv screws around with giving out arbitrary seeds.. Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 22:00 zefreak wrote:On March 24 2012 21:28 Terminal wrote:On March 24 2012 20:53 zefreak wrote:On March 24 2012 20:04 b0rt_ wrote:that 3-1 caster prediction of naniwa beating drg was ridiculous. Do they not watch this game? Pretty ridiculous. Artosis is the only one who can even play starcraft at a semi-high level, so its no surprise that the other casters don't appreciate his play. I don't care what anyone thinks, you cannot have a deep understanding of high level starcraft unless you also play at a somewhat high level. Otherwise you end up like Tasteless who only cares about cute plays and micro tricks. MKP's factory wall against DRG in the Winter Arena did for him what months of fast, aggressive and intelligent play couldn't. Look at him drool over Naniwa because of his micro in the Winter Arena. He now thinks Naniwa is the best protoss in the world. He is just incapable at his level of appreciating the play of intelligent, non flashy play. If it weren't for Artosis telling him to like and who to dislike he wouldn't know what was going on. I realize this turned into a tasteless rant even though I love the guy. He is just a particularly relevant example. Almost all casters are guilty of this. I don't mean to pick on tasteless. Artosis isn't the only caster who can play at a semi-high level so you're wrong there for starters. And you realize somebody in Tasteless' position is just doing there job too, right? His job is to also hype and sell the players and point out the more casual-friendly fancy things for the majority of spectators. Though I'm sure he can differentiate good from bad play with the experience he has he'll leave that role to somebody like Artosis, who yes - has more understanding of the game and intelligent play but I wouldn't say Tasteless has zero knowledge and only cares about cute players and micro tricks, it's just that's not his position to do so most of the time. Look, all I can base this off of is what he says publicly. I think that he betrays a shallow understanding of the game based on both his casting as well as his predictions. I realize he is the play by play caster and not the analyst, but he often does make predictions and calls games, and sometimes he is completely wrong. I think he has done a lot for the community and personally think he is one of the people I would get along with the most. I would love to get some drinks with the guy but I just think his game knowledge isn't deep enough to appreciate really high level play that isn't flashy (in other words, obvious). And what casters can play at a high level besides artosis? I'm genuinely curious. I really like dApollo's casting and know he plays as well, but I'm not very knowledgeable regarding his skill. Isn't Rotterdam on the edge to EU GM with his Toss? Apollo is mid - high masters on EU as Random I think.
Polt and Stephano have actually been seeded based on their points from last year. Everyone up to seed #49 in the open bracket has points that carried over from last year; from #50 down it's supposed to be random but even that is obviously seeded in some way. (I'm guessing TLPD).
Apollo is indeed high in masters. A week ago he was at 1000 points and playing 30% of the time against GM players. Source: His twitter, tweet is dated March 16th.
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On March 24 2012 22:14 Wroshe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 22:00 Neelia wrote:On March 24 2012 21:46 mememolly wrote:On March 24 2012 21:35 WolfintheSheep wrote:On March 24 2012 21:31 mememolly wrote:On March 24 2012 20:53 Neelia wrote:On March 24 2012 19:09 mememolly wrote:On March 24 2012 18:45 TheMexican wrote:
horrible first day, soundissues, overlayissues, hp's were always turned off and very few games (as usual) on the free streams.ATROCIOUS obersving in the games that were shown, horrible casters besides the "established"ones ofc (<3 at least day 9 was back, though he could not save the first day) combined with the demuslim-drg decision....had to turn off after that, just horrible.
sry mlg but that is neither getting potential new costumers nor making those that do pay satisifed to win them over longterm.
not sure whether or not i will be watching the rest, and im sure im not the only one gotta admit this is the worst mlg i've watched so far, they haven't fix a lot of things from last season, the pools are still stupid and unfair and still no seeding in open bracket, all the casting has gotten worse, rather have husky than some of these dudes, stream has to refreshed after every ad, lots of downtime between games, I expected it to get smoother and more refined but its gotten worse, which is weird because a bunch of university kids managed to get it so right last week The season just started, on what should the seeding be based besides Winter Arena (+ WA qualifier) results? TLPD ELO? Won Pricemoney? Fan Votes? Your Private Seeding System? If People don't have any MLG points cause they didn't play in the prior ones of the respective season they may get unlucky brackets cause they didn't earn a seed. -_- take into consideration tourney results from things over than MLG, it's not rocket science Right. So how does an Ro64 Code A finish compare to an 11th place IEM finish? so stephano and polt should go unseeded in the open bracket? If they don't have any MLG points, of course. It's bad enough GomTv screws around with giving out arbitrary seeds.. On March 24 2012 22:00 zefreak wrote:On March 24 2012 21:28 Terminal wrote:On March 24 2012 20:53 zefreak wrote:On March 24 2012 20:04 b0rt_ wrote:that 3-1 caster prediction of naniwa beating drg was ridiculous. Do they not watch this game? Pretty ridiculous. Artosis is the only one who can even play starcraft at a semi-high level, so its no surprise that the other casters don't appreciate his play. I don't care what anyone thinks, you cannot have a deep understanding of high level starcraft unless you also play at a somewhat high level. Otherwise you end up like Tasteless who only cares about cute plays and micro tricks. MKP's factory wall against DRG in the Winter Arena did for him what months of fast, aggressive and intelligent play couldn't. Look at him drool over Naniwa because of his micro in the Winter Arena. He now thinks Naniwa is the best protoss in the world. He is just incapable at his level of appreciating the play of intelligent, non flashy play. If it weren't for Artosis telling him to like and who to dislike he wouldn't know what was going on. I realize this turned into a tasteless rant even though I love the guy. He is just a particularly relevant example. Almost all casters are guilty of this. I don't mean to pick on tasteless. Artosis isn't the only caster who can play at a semi-high level so you're wrong there for starters. And you realize somebody in Tasteless' position is just doing there job too, right? His job is to also hype and sell the players and point out the more casual-friendly fancy things for the majority of spectators. Though I'm sure he can differentiate good from bad play with the experience he has he'll leave that role to somebody like Artosis, who yes - has more understanding of the game and intelligent play but I wouldn't say Tasteless has zero knowledge and only cares about cute players and micro tricks, it's just that's not his position to do so most of the time. Look, all I can base this off of is what he says publicly. I think that he betrays a shallow understanding of the game based on both his casting as well as his predictions. I realize he is the play by play caster and not the analyst, but he often does make predictions and calls games, and sometimes he is completely wrong. I think he has done a lot for the community and personally think he is one of the people I would get along with the most. I would love to get some drinks with the guy but I just think his game knowledge isn't deep enough to appreciate really high level play that isn't flashy (in other words, obvious). And what casters can play at a high level besides artosis? I'm genuinely curious. I really like dApollo's casting and know he plays as well, but I'm not very knowledgeable regarding his skill. Isn't Rotterdam on the edge to EU GM with his Toss? Apollo is mid - high masters on EU as Random I think. Polt and Stephano have actually been seeded based on their points from last year. Everyone up to seed #49 in the open bracket has points that carried over from last year; from #50 down it's supposed to be random but even that is obviously seeded in some way. (I'm guessing TLPD). Apollo is indeed high in masters. A week ago he was at 1000 points and playing 30% of the time against GM players. Source: His twitter, tweet is dated March 16th.
But that doesn't make sense. For example, aLive got knocked out by Polt last year in the only MLG any of them went to, both Polt and Stephano got much farther than him and he still is seeded far ahead of them. I don't know, it just doesn't make any sense.
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I really can't say I had any problem with watching MLG. The observing wasn't the best I've ever seen and that was the most annoying thing that actually happaned. I had no issues with lag, nor the sound... one time they fucked up the overlay, maybe twice but seriously, if you are going to bitch about a wrong color in the overlay.. you just want to bash on something.
The production was very good for me, didn't miss a single game.
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In case this hasn't been said yet: Holy balls the VOD system is awesome!
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On March 24 2012 22:22 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 22:14 Wroshe wrote:On March 24 2012 22:00 Neelia wrote:On March 24 2012 21:46 mememolly wrote:On March 24 2012 21:35 WolfintheSheep wrote:On March 24 2012 21:31 mememolly wrote:On March 24 2012 20:53 Neelia wrote:On March 24 2012 19:09 mememolly wrote:On March 24 2012 18:45 TheMexican wrote:
horrible first day, soundissues, overlayissues, hp's were always turned off and very few games (as usual) on the free streams.ATROCIOUS obersving in the games that were shown, horrible casters besides the "established"ones ofc (<3 at least day 9 was back, though he could not save the first day) combined with the demuslim-drg decision....had to turn off after that, just horrible.
sry mlg but that is neither getting potential new costumers nor making those that do pay satisifed to win them over longterm.
not sure whether or not i will be watching the rest, and im sure im not the only one gotta admit this is the worst mlg i've watched so far, they haven't fix a lot of things from last season, the pools are still stupid and unfair and still no seeding in open bracket, all the casting has gotten worse, rather have husky than some of these dudes, stream has to refreshed after every ad, lots of downtime between games, I expected it to get smoother and more refined but its gotten worse, which is weird because a bunch of university kids managed to get it so right last week The season just started, on what should the seeding be based besides Winter Arena (+ WA qualifier) results? TLPD ELO? Won Pricemoney? Fan Votes? Your Private Seeding System? If People don't have any MLG points cause they didn't play in the prior ones of the respective season they may get unlucky brackets cause they didn't earn a seed. -_- take into consideration tourney results from things over than MLG, it's not rocket science Right. So how does an Ro64 Code A finish compare to an 11th place IEM finish? so stephano and polt should go unseeded in the open bracket? If they don't have any MLG points, of course. It's bad enough GomTv screws around with giving out arbitrary seeds.. On March 24 2012 22:00 zefreak wrote:On March 24 2012 21:28 Terminal wrote:On March 24 2012 20:53 zefreak wrote:On March 24 2012 20:04 b0rt_ wrote:that 3-1 caster prediction of naniwa beating drg was ridiculous. Do they not watch this game? Pretty ridiculous. Artosis is the only one who can even play starcraft at a semi-high level, so its no surprise that the other casters don't appreciate his play. I don't care what anyone thinks, you cannot have a deep understanding of high level starcraft unless you also play at a somewhat high level. Otherwise you end up like Tasteless who only cares about cute plays and micro tricks. MKP's factory wall against DRG in the Winter Arena did for him what months of fast, aggressive and intelligent play couldn't. Look at him drool over Naniwa because of his micro in the Winter Arena. He now thinks Naniwa is the best protoss in the world. He is just incapable at his level of appreciating the play of intelligent, non flashy play. If it weren't for Artosis telling him to like and who to dislike he wouldn't know what was going on. I realize this turned into a tasteless rant even though I love the guy. He is just a particularly relevant example. Almost all casters are guilty of this. I don't mean to pick on tasteless. Artosis isn't the only caster who can play at a semi-high level so you're wrong there for starters. And you realize somebody in Tasteless' position is just doing there job too, right? His job is to also hype and sell the players and point out the more casual-friendly fancy things for the majority of spectators. Though I'm sure he can differentiate good from bad play with the experience he has he'll leave that role to somebody like Artosis, who yes - has more understanding of the game and intelligent play but I wouldn't say Tasteless has zero knowledge and only cares about cute players and micro tricks, it's just that's not his position to do so most of the time. Look, all I can base this off of is what he says publicly. I think that he betrays a shallow understanding of the game based on both his casting as well as his predictions. I realize he is the play by play caster and not the analyst, but he often does make predictions and calls games, and sometimes he is completely wrong. I think he has done a lot for the community and personally think he is one of the people I would get along with the most. I would love to get some drinks with the guy but I just think his game knowledge isn't deep enough to appreciate really high level play that isn't flashy (in other words, obvious). And what casters can play at a high level besides artosis? I'm genuinely curious. I really like dApollo's casting and know he plays as well, but I'm not very knowledgeable regarding his skill. Isn't Rotterdam on the edge to EU GM with his Toss? Apollo is mid - high masters on EU as Random I think. Polt and Stephano have actually been seeded based on their points from last year. Everyone up to seed #49 in the open bracket has points that carried over from last year; from #50 down it's supposed to be random but even that is obviously seeded in some way. (I'm guessing TLPD). Apollo is indeed high in masters. A week ago he was at 1000 points and playing 30% of the time against GM players. Source: His twitter, tweet is dated March 16th. But that doesn't make sense. For example, aLive got knocked out by Polt last year in the only MLG any of them went to, both Polt and Stephano got much farther than him and he still is seeded far ahead of them. I don't know, it just doesn't make any sense.
I think it's based on the Winter Arena Qualifier results where aLive got a better result than Polt.
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On March 24 2012 22:22 Type|NarutO wrote:
I really can't say I had any problem with watching MLG. The observing wasn't the best I've ever seen and that was the most annoying thing that actually happaned. I had no issues with lag, nor the sound... one time they fucked up the overlay, maybe twice but seriously, if you are going to bitch about a wrong color in the overlay.. you just want to bash on something.
The production was very good for me, didn't miss a single game.
I gotta say the wrong colour in overlay was very confusing for people who tuned in halfway, esp when it's a mirror. Took me quite a while to figure out who was Ret and who was viOlet.
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On March 24 2012 22:29 silentsod wrote:
In case this hasn't been said yet: Holy balls the VOD system is awesome!
Link? Also, do we need gold membership to watch them?
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On March 24 2012 22:46 teamsolid wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 22:29 silentsod wrote:
In case this hasn't been said yet: Holy balls the VOD system is awesome! Link? Also, do we need gold membership to watch them?
It's on the live player and yes, it's not free.
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I really dislike MLG tournament model. Yes i wanted Stephano to go deep and hopefully he still can but same would have been for Polt too.
To me linking this tournament to the Arena gives a significant boost to those available for that event. It should have been an entirely seperate standalone tournament. Especially as Gold viewers had to pay for it seperately (but thats another story).
I just do not like any tounrament where there is such a two tier system. It is obsurdly unfair to those that 'turn up' on the day and if it continues will continue to alientate Europeans. Something MLG claims to be striving not to do.
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ps I also think it seems a bit smelly they 'randomly' meet for the last match of the day.
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is anywhere "free" ticket for silver membership like it was earlier mlg's?
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On March 24 2012 22:54 Ireniicus wrote:
ps I also think it seems a bit smelly they 'randomly' meet for the last match of the day.
It wasn't even going to be the last match of the day, it wasn't even going to be aired.
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How do I watch free like I did for MLG arena?
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On March 24 2012 23:01 HQuality wrote:
is anywhere "free" ticket for silver membership like it was earlier mlg's?
there is no silver membership anymore bro
(pretty sure)
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Is the stream at majorleaguegaming.com/live the only one? Are there any re-streams or better ways to watch it?
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On March 24 2012 21:04 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 20:53 zefreak wrote:On March 24 2012 20:04 b0rt_ wrote:that 3-1 caster prediction of naniwa beating drg was ridiculous. Do they not watch this game? Pretty ridiculous. Artosis is the only one who can even play starcraft at a semi-high level, so its no surprise that the other casters don't appreciate his play. I don't care what anyone thinks, you cannot have a deep understanding of high level starcraft unless you also play at a somewhat high level. Otherwise you end up like Tasteless who only cares about cute plays and micro tricks. MKP's factory wall against DRG in the Winter Arena did for him what months of fast, aggressive and intelligent play couldn't. Look at him drool over Naniwa because of his micro in the Winter Arena. He now thinks Naniwa is the best protoss in the world. He is just incapable at his level of appreciating the play of intelligent, non flashy play. If it weren't for Artosis telling him to like and who to dislike he wouldn't know what was going on. I realize this turned into a tasteless rant even though I love the guy. He is just a particularly relevant example. Almost all casters are guilty of this. I don't mean to pick on tasteless. Completely agree. The only 2 full-time casters I think are worth listening to for analysis are Apollo and Artosis, with sometimes Day[9] also giving some good insight.
You do realize he does colour commentary and not analysis when casting with Artosis. If they switched roles you would notice that Tasteless does know a lot more then is let on.
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