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eVITAERC
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada61 Posts
March 16 2012 10:04 GMT
#461
On March 16 2012 19:01 Forbidden17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 18:59 eVITAERC wrote:
This match reminds me of every single TvP I play

you sit in your base with flying medics that act as transport too?


Typically it's scan and see 3 canons at every base. By that point they've switched to Colo as well so I need to start vikings, which means I have to be even more careful with my existing medivacs.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
March 16 2012 10:04 GMT
#462
On March 16 2012 19:02 vthree wrote:
Are there any terrans builds that REQUIRE toss to pressure/harass or they get behind?


Well, Mech can work if the toss lets you get 3-3 200/200 Mech army and attacks into you.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
March 16 2012 10:05 GMT
#463
On March 16 2012 19:02 vthree wrote:
Are there any terrans builds that REQUIRE toss to pressure/harass or they get behind?


No because Protoss Harass is awful and terran harass is "miss 1 drop and youre dead"... =_=

Terran has all those super strong possibilitys to harass and as a toss its super hard to defend all this shit...
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 16 2012 10:05 GMT
#464
Polt seems to be one of few Terrans that truly understand TvP atm, and he makes it look EASY too.


Yeah, and he lost to Creator to get knocked out to Code B and only got back due to Code S seed
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
March 16 2012 10:05 GMT
#465
On March 16 2012 19:02 vthree wrote:
Are there any terrans builds that REQUIRE toss to pressure/harass or they get behind?


toss qq's for 2 years how they want something harassy like bfh, marader kills your nexus in 5 seconds drops, etc.

so, its just the way game is designed. i dont think other side likes it very much either, chill
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
eericson000
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia718 Posts
March 16 2012 10:05 GMT
#466
On March 16 2012 19:03 Plexa wrote:
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On March 16 2012 19:02 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On March 16 2012 19:01 SpecFire wrote:
On March 16 2012 19:00 eericson000 wrote:
On March 16 2012 18:59 Plexa wrote:
On March 16 2012 18:57 SpecFire wrote:
seriously, what the FUCK does Terran do in this situation?!? i UNDERSTAND that it was 3-3 vs 2-2, but how does terran catch up with protoss double forge with chrono. i cant just stall, b.c. protoss can ATTACK WHEN THEY GET 3-3. boxer took the coloosi out pretty quickly, got ship weapons...

not trying to bring up balance, just frustrated for boxer and asking, what does he do?!

Attack, harass, be annoying etc.


Yeah I was suprised that boxer never planned to do any drops.


As I said before, Creator had cannons at his expos, and a group of zlots and stalkers in his main. If Boxer drops, he gets MORE behind. Eh nevermind. Creator just played well. wont complain more

Builds a bunker at the start.

Yeah that fucked up his build a lot... you usually either want to 5rax/3rax medivac after a FE and boxer got to 4rax and fell apart


I think boxer didn't build a bunker because his expo was in his main, and he was above the ramp and did not expect creator to attack with zeal+stalker, then 2 more stalkers. Creator spotted the weakness @ boxer's ramp and kept on attacking.
EatCrow
Profile Joined April 2010
Estonia333 Posts
March 16 2012 10:05 GMT
#467
On March 16 2012 19:04 Wintex wrote:
I've noticed a trend really. Every matchup with Protoss involved is just badly designed. I blame warp ins.


I blame colossus.
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
March 16 2012 10:05 GMT
#468
On March 16 2012 19:01 synaptik wrote:
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On March 16 2012 18:59 HaXXspetten wrote:
I sense a lot of tension from all the Terrans on this forum right now :o


isnt it great to see the terran QQ after a year of gsl domination?


always wondered why people put so much emphasis on 1 monthly 32 player tournament when a foreign terran hasnt won a major live tournament in well over a year.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
b0rt_
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway931 Posts
March 16 2012 10:05 GMT
#469
On March 16 2012 19:01 synaptik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 18:59 HaXXspetten wrote:
I sense a lot of tension from all the Terrans on this forum right now :o


isnt it great to see the terran QQ after a year of gsl domination?

yes I'll fetch the kayak
Forbidden17
Profile Joined December 2011
666 Posts
March 16 2012 10:06 GMT
#470
On March 16 2012 19:04 eVITAERC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 19:01 Forbidden17 wrote:
On March 16 2012 18:59 eVITAERC wrote:
This match reminds me of every single TvP I play

you sit in your base with flying medics that act as transport too?


Typically it's scan and see 3 canons at every base. By that point they've switched to Colo as well so I need to start vikings, which means I have to be even more careful with my existing medivacs.

then i guess there's nothing you can do
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
March 16 2012 10:06 GMT
#471
On March 16 2012 19:04 Wintex wrote:
I've noticed a trend really. Every matchup with Protoss involved is just badly designed. I blame warp ins.

I find zvp to be a very dynamic and fair match up for both sides and really well designed.
Svizcy
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovenia300 Posts
March 16 2012 10:06 GMT
#472
On March 16 2012 19:02 vthree wrote:
Are there any terrans builds that REQUIRE toss to pressure/harass or they get behind?


No.
ChaosTerran
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria844 Posts
March 16 2012 10:06 GMT
#473
On March 16 2012 19:05 -y0shi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 19:02 vthree wrote:
Are there any terrans builds that REQUIRE toss to pressure/harass or they get behind?


No because Protoss Harass is awful and terran harass is "miss 1 drop and youre dead"... =_=

Terran has all those super strong possibilitys to harass and as a toss its super hard to defend all this shit...


Yeah, just leaving a few stalkers in the back of your base is seriously challenging. and putting up cannons with 1 HT per base is the hardest thing in the game I heard.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
March 16 2012 10:06 GMT
#474
no boxerrrr
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
March 16 2012 10:07 GMT
#475
On March 16 2012 19:05 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 19:01 synaptik wrote:
On March 16 2012 18:59 HaXXspetten wrote:
I sense a lot of tension from all the Terrans on this forum right now :o


isnt it great to see the terran QQ after a year of gsl domination?


always wondered why people put so much emphasis on 1 monthly 32 player tournament when a foreign terran hasnt won a major live tournament in well over a year.

Because foreign terrans just aint as good as the korean ones. Its been pretty clear trend for a long time....
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 16 2012 10:07 GMT
#476
On March 16 2012 19:05 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
Polt seems to be one of few Terrans that truly understand TvP atm, and he makes it look EASY too.


Yeah, and he lost to Creator to get knocked out to Code B and only got back due to Code S seed


None of the games against Creator went late-game. Creator actually cheesed two of them and then went for an extremely fast third into a push.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 16 2012 10:07 GMT
#477
toss qq's for 2 years how they want something harassy like bfh, marader kills your nexus in 5 seconds drops, etc.


Problem is the maps. They are getting bigger and 3rds easier to defend (although Dual Site is not one of these). It makes the turtle + deathball style more viable vs pressure/harass.
Forbidden17
Profile Joined December 2011
666 Posts
March 16 2012 10:07 GMT
#478
On March 16 2012 19:05 EatCrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 19:04 Wintex wrote:
I've noticed a trend really. Every matchup with Protoss involved is just badly designed. I blame warp ins.


I blame colossus.

i blame warp as well... forces toss early game units to be weak or warp gate timings would be op. in turn toss end game is really strong -.-'
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18476 Posts
March 16 2012 10:08 GMT
#479
I'm sorry for boxer, but these terran tears are delicious!

PS. I play zerg, not toss.
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
March 16 2012 10:08 GMT
#480
On March 16 2012 19:05 -y0shi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 19:02 vthree wrote:
Are there any terrans builds that REQUIRE toss to pressure/harass or they get behind?


No because Protoss Harass is awful and terran harass is "miss 1 drop and youre dead"... =_=

Terran has all those super strong possibilitys to harass and as a toss its super hard to defend all this shit...


Maybe in Diamond League you can drop freely, but once you get into the higher leagues where Protoss actually uses cannons and ht to protect their bases, good luck making efficient drops.
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