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On March 16 2012 18:59 HaXXspetten wrote: I sense a lot of tension from all the Terrans on this forum right now :o
isnt it great to see the terran QQ after a year of gsl domination?
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On March 16 2012 19:00 SpecFire wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 18:58 Senixter wrote:On March 16 2012 18:57 SpecFire wrote: seriously, what the FUCK does Terran do in this situation?!? i UNDERSTAND that it was 3-3 vs 2-2, but how does terran catch up with protoss double forge with chrono. i cant just stall, b.c. protoss can ATTACK WHEN THEY GET 3-3. boxer took the coloosi out pretty quickly, got ship weapons...
not trying to bring up balance, just frustrated for boxer and asking, what does he do?! not sit in your base till his upgrades finishes Did you SEE creator's defense? He had cannons at his expansions, and a grou pof 4-5 stalkers and 4-5 zealots in his main mineral line. If Boxer drops, he gets MORE behind. ...well then maybe Creator played better? Thought of that? -.-
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On March 16 2012 19:01 graNite wrote: boxer was passive? creator was passive, too. the problem is that you can never catch up to the protoss tech as terran, and you have to be harassing becasue you have the mobile army, p has the "sitbackandgetthedeathball" army
Protoss is strongest when they are passive.
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On March 16 2012 19:00 eericson000 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 18:59 Plexa wrote:On March 16 2012 18:57 SpecFire wrote: seriously, what the FUCK does Terran do in this situation?!? i UNDERSTAND that it was 3-3 vs 2-2, but how does terran catch up with protoss double forge with chrono. i cant just stall, b.c. protoss can ATTACK WHEN THEY GET 3-3. boxer took the coloosi out pretty quickly, got ship weapons...
not trying to bring up balance, just frustrated for boxer and asking, what does he do?! Attack, harass, be annoying etc. Yeah I was suprised that boxer never planned to do any drops.
As I said before, Creator had cannons at his expos, and a group of zlots and stalkers in his main. If Boxer drops, he gets MORE behind. Eh nevermind. Creator just played well. wont complain more
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On March 16 2012 19:01 graNite wrote: boxer was passive? creator was passive, too. the problem is that you can never catch up to the protoss tech as terran, and you have to be harassing becasue you have the mobile army, p has the "sitbackandgetthedeathball" army
boy, wait till you discover this 3rd race in sc2 called zerg.
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On March 16 2012 19:01 DizzySheep wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 18:57 ragnorr wrote:On March 16 2012 18:56 vthree wrote: lol, this is why terrans like to cheese, late game is just so bad right now Boxer never did anything to stop creator from getting a third, getting a deathball comp. You really need to pressure toss in order to delay their tech/deathball Well, boxer is in no position to do that after losing 9-10 marines to the initial stalker pressure.
Yes, however once boxer had medivacs, his army is probably more mobile then creator's ball
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On March 16 2012 19:01 synaptik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 18:59 HaXXspetten wrote: I sense a lot of tension from all the Terrans on this forum right now :o isnt it great to see the terran QQ after a year of gsl domination?
strange, I could've swore there are more toss tension in the first 10 pages when creator got 2raxed.
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Are there any terrans builds that REQUIRE toss to pressure/harass or they get behind?
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On March 16 2012 18:59 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 18:58 WigglingSquid wrote:On March 16 2012 18:57 Svizcy wrote: This game is answer for anyone who is still asking himself why terrans need gimmicky strats to win. Polt doesn't.  What impressive Korean Protoss has Polt beaten recently? He lost to Creator in Code A as well.
Squirtle, among others. Polt seems to be one of few Terrans that truly understand TvP atm, and he makes it look EASY too.
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On March 16 2012 19:01 SpecFire wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 19:00 eericson000 wrote:On March 16 2012 18:59 Plexa wrote:On March 16 2012 18:57 SpecFire wrote: seriously, what the FUCK does Terran do in this situation?!? i UNDERSTAND that it was 3-3 vs 2-2, but how does terran catch up with protoss double forge with chrono. i cant just stall, b.c. protoss can ATTACK WHEN THEY GET 3-3. boxer took the coloosi out pretty quickly, got ship weapons...
not trying to bring up balance, just frustrated for boxer and asking, what does he do?! Attack, harass, be annoying etc. Yeah I was suprised that boxer never planned to do any drops. As I said before, Creator had cannons at his expos, and a group of zlots and stalkers in his main. If Boxer drops, he gets MORE behind. Eh nevermind. Creator just played well. wont complain more Builds a bunker at the start.
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TvP is so badly designed lol :/
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On March 16 2012 19:01 synaptik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 18:59 HaXXspetten wrote: I sense a lot of tension from all the Terrans on this forum right now :o isnt it great to see the terran QQ after a year of gsl domination? heh, well of course it's nice to get a little revenge for the 1/1/1 era, but I'd rather the game was just fair at all game lengths... mayhap a little wishful thinking though
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On March 16 2012 19:02 FuzzyJAM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 19:01 SpecFire wrote:On March 16 2012 19:00 eericson000 wrote:On March 16 2012 18:59 Plexa wrote:On March 16 2012 18:57 SpecFire wrote: seriously, what the FUCK does Terran do in this situation?!? i UNDERSTAND that it was 3-3 vs 2-2, but how does terran catch up with protoss double forge with chrono. i cant just stall, b.c. protoss can ATTACK WHEN THEY GET 3-3. boxer took the coloosi out pretty quickly, got ship weapons...
not trying to bring up balance, just frustrated for boxer and asking, what does he do?! Attack, harass, be annoying etc. Yeah I was suprised that boxer never planned to do any drops. As I said before, Creator had cannons at his expos, and a group of zlots and stalkers in his main. If Boxer drops, he gets MORE behind. Eh nevermind. Creator just played well. wont complain more Builds a bunker at the start. Yeah that fucked up his build a lot... you usually either want to 5rax/3rax medivac after a FE and boxer got to 4rax and fell apart
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On March 16 2012 19:01 SpecFire wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 19:00 eericson000 wrote:On March 16 2012 18:59 Plexa wrote:On March 16 2012 18:57 SpecFire wrote: seriously, what the FUCK does Terran do in this situation?!? i UNDERSTAND that it was 3-3 vs 2-2, but how does terran catch up with protoss double forge with chrono. i cant just stall, b.c. protoss can ATTACK WHEN THEY GET 3-3. boxer took the coloosi out pretty quickly, got ship weapons...
not trying to bring up balance, just frustrated for boxer and asking, what does he do?! Attack, harass, be annoying etc. Yeah I was suprised that boxer never planned to do any drops. As I said before, Creator had cannons at his expos, and a group of zlots and stalkers in his main. If Boxer drops, he gets MORE behind. What does he do?!
Maruader drops? i don't know, 3rd base had like 1 cannon, like Wolf mentions, current meta game in TvP in dual sight,it's often hard for Toss to take a 3rd, creater easily took his 4th...
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also, on that map, not getting PF on third is almost suicide, when you know he's gonna come and instantly remax on zealots. i even expected PF's inbetween second and third, when he put two additional cc. if protoss comes for you, you drop their third and fourth and so on...
hard map for terran, boxer is 1-6 now 1-7 at that specific map right?
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On March 16 2012 19:02 FidoDido wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 19:01 synaptik wrote:On March 16 2012 18:59 HaXXspetten wrote: I sense a lot of tension from all the Terrans on this forum right now :o isnt it great to see the terran QQ after a year of gsl domination? strange, I could've swore there are more toss tension in the first 10 pages when creator got 2raxed. except that had nothing to do with balance, that was just Supernova doing a lame build, not the same thing
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I've noticed a trend really. Every matchup with Protoss involved is just badly designed. I blame warp ins.
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Terran's need to harass, Polt/MKP/Puma are always dropping or faking drops while still macro'n beautifully. Boxer seemed to just want to play a no rush style which is fine but his macro wasn't that great (sadly) his armory was to late to go straight into 2/2 and his 3/3 was started very late even tho he was floating the resources.
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On March 16 2012 18:58 Fubi wrote: Max supply vs Max supply, Creator steamrolled Boxer only using half of his army, what?
Welcome to Zerg one year ago. Protoss deathballs are strong. You can't A-move at them.
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