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synaptik
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada644 Posts
March 16 2012 10:01 GMT
#441
On March 16 2012 18:59 HaXXspetten wrote:
I sense a lot of tension from all the Terrans on this forum right now :o


isnt it great to see the terran QQ after a year of gsl domination?
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
March 16 2012 10:01 GMT
#442
On March 16 2012 18:58 LeLfe wrote:
As much as I can QQ on late TvP, match up is not to blame on that one... It has never been BoxeR's best match up anyway


it was boxer's 2nd best MU, his worst MU is vs Zerg, at a staggering 31.25%
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/225_BoxeR
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
March 16 2012 10:01 GMT
#443
On March 16 2012 19:00 SpecFire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 18:58 Senixter wrote:
On March 16 2012 18:57 SpecFire wrote:
seriously, what the FUCK does Terran do in this situation?!? i UNDERSTAND that it was 3-3 vs 2-2, but how does terran catch up with protoss double forge with chrono. i cant just stall, b.c. protoss can ATTACK WHEN THEY GET 3-3. boxer took the coloosi out pretty quickly, got ship weapons...

not trying to bring up balance, just frustrated for boxer and asking, what does he do?!

not sit in your base till his upgrades finishes



Did you SEE creator's defense? He had cannons at his expansions, and a grou pof 4-5 stalkers and 4-5 zealots in his main mineral line. If Boxer drops, he gets MORE behind.

...well then maybe Creator played better? Thought of that? -.-
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 16 2012 10:01 GMT
#444
On March 16 2012 19:01 graNite wrote:
boxer was passive? creator was passive, too.
the problem is that you can never catch up to the protoss tech as terran, and you have to be harassing becasue you have the mobile army, p has the "sitbackandgetthedeathball" army

Protoss is strongest when they are passive.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
SpecFire
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1681 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 10:02:25
March 16 2012 10:01 GMT
#445
On March 16 2012 19:00 eericson000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 18:59 Plexa wrote:
On March 16 2012 18:57 SpecFire wrote:
seriously, what the FUCK does Terran do in this situation?!? i UNDERSTAND that it was 3-3 vs 2-2, but how does terran catch up with protoss double forge with chrono. i cant just stall, b.c. protoss can ATTACK WHEN THEY GET 3-3. boxer took the coloosi out pretty quickly, got ship weapons...

not trying to bring up balance, just frustrated for boxer and asking, what does he do?!

Attack, harass, be annoying etc.


Yeah I was suprised that boxer never planned to do any drops.


As I said before, Creator had cannons at his expos, and a group of zlots and stalkers in his main. If Boxer drops, he gets MORE behind. Eh nevermind. Creator just played well. wont complain more
•|SlayerS_MMA| • Ryung • Fin • Puzzle •
Forbidden17
Profile Joined December 2011
666 Posts
March 16 2012 10:01 GMT
#446
On March 16 2012 19:01 graNite wrote:
boxer was passive? creator was passive, too.
the problem is that you can never catch up to the protoss tech as terran, and you have to be harassing becasue you have the mobile army, p has the "sitbackandgetthedeathball" army

boy, wait till you discover this 3rd race in sc2 called zerg.
eericson000
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia718 Posts
March 16 2012 10:01 GMT
#447
On March 16 2012 19:01 DizzySheep wrote:
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On March 16 2012 18:57 ragnorr wrote:
On March 16 2012 18:56 vthree wrote:
lol, this is why terrans like to cheese, late game is just so bad right now

Boxer never did anything to stop creator from getting a third, getting a deathball comp. You really need to pressure toss in order to delay their tech/deathball


Well, boxer is in no position to do that after losing 9-10 marines to the initial stalker pressure.


Yes, however once boxer had medivacs, his army is probably more mobile then creator's ball
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
March 16 2012 10:02 GMT
#448
On March 16 2012 19:01 synaptik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 18:59 HaXXspetten wrote:
I sense a lot of tension from all the Terrans on this forum right now :o


isnt it great to see the terran QQ after a year of gsl domination?


strange, I could've swore there are more toss tension in the first 10 pages when creator got 2raxed.
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 16 2012 10:02 GMT
#449
Are there any terrans builds that REQUIRE toss to pressure/harass or they get behind?
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
March 16 2012 10:02 GMT
#450
On March 16 2012 18:59 JJH777 wrote:
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On March 16 2012 18:58 WigglingSquid wrote:
On March 16 2012 18:57 Svizcy wrote:
This game is answer for anyone who is still asking himself why terrans need gimmicky strats to win.

Polt doesn't.


What impressive Korean Protoss has Polt beaten recently? He lost to Creator in Code A as well.


Squirtle, among others. Polt seems to be one of few Terrans that truly understand TvP atm, and he makes it look EASY too.
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
March 16 2012 10:02 GMT
#451
On March 16 2012 19:01 SpecFire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 19:00 eericson000 wrote:
On March 16 2012 18:59 Plexa wrote:
On March 16 2012 18:57 SpecFire wrote:
seriously, what the FUCK does Terran do in this situation?!? i UNDERSTAND that it was 3-3 vs 2-2, but how does terran catch up with protoss double forge with chrono. i cant just stall, b.c. protoss can ATTACK WHEN THEY GET 3-3. boxer took the coloosi out pretty quickly, got ship weapons...

not trying to bring up balance, just frustrated for boxer and asking, what does he do?!

Attack, harass, be annoying etc.


Yeah I was suprised that boxer never planned to do any drops.


As I said before, Creator had cannons at his expos, and a group of zlots and stalkers in his main. If Boxer drops, he gets MORE behind. Eh nevermind. Creator just played well. wont complain more

Builds a bunker at the start.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Scila
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1849 Posts
March 16 2012 10:02 GMT
#452
TvP is so badly designed lol :/
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
March 16 2012 10:02 GMT
#453
On March 16 2012 19:01 synaptik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 18:59 HaXXspetten wrote:
I sense a lot of tension from all the Terrans on this forum right now :o


isnt it great to see the terran QQ after a year of gsl domination?

heh, well of course it's nice to get a little revenge for the 1/1/1 era, but I'd rather the game was just fair at all game lengths... mayhap a little wishful thinking though
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 16 2012 10:03 GMT
#454
On March 16 2012 19:02 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 19:01 SpecFire wrote:
On March 16 2012 19:00 eericson000 wrote:
On March 16 2012 18:59 Plexa wrote:
On March 16 2012 18:57 SpecFire wrote:
seriously, what the FUCK does Terran do in this situation?!? i UNDERSTAND that it was 3-3 vs 2-2, but how does terran catch up with protoss double forge with chrono. i cant just stall, b.c. protoss can ATTACK WHEN THEY GET 3-3. boxer took the coloosi out pretty quickly, got ship weapons...

not trying to bring up balance, just frustrated for boxer and asking, what does he do?!

Attack, harass, be annoying etc.


Yeah I was suprised that boxer never planned to do any drops.


As I said before, Creator had cannons at his expos, and a group of zlots and stalkers in his main. If Boxer drops, he gets MORE behind. Eh nevermind. Creator just played well. wont complain more

Builds a bunker at the start.

Yeah that fucked up his build a lot... you usually either want to 5rax/3rax medivac after a FE and boxer got to 4rax and fell apart
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
eericson000
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia718 Posts
March 16 2012 10:03 GMT
#455
On March 16 2012 19:01 SpecFire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 19:00 eericson000 wrote:
On March 16 2012 18:59 Plexa wrote:
On March 16 2012 18:57 SpecFire wrote:
seriously, what the FUCK does Terran do in this situation?!? i UNDERSTAND that it was 3-3 vs 2-2, but how does terran catch up with protoss double forge with chrono. i cant just stall, b.c. protoss can ATTACK WHEN THEY GET 3-3. boxer took the coloosi out pretty quickly, got ship weapons...

not trying to bring up balance, just frustrated for boxer and asking, what does he do?!

Attack, harass, be annoying etc.


Yeah I was suprised that boxer never planned to do any drops.


As I said before, Creator had cannons at his expos, and a group of zlots and stalkers in his main. If Boxer drops, he gets MORE behind. What does he do?!


Maruader drops? i don't know, 3rd base had like 1 cannon, like Wolf mentions, current meta game in TvP in dual sight,it's often hard for Toss to take a 3rd, creater easily took his 4th...
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
March 16 2012 10:03 GMT
#456
also, on that map, not getting PF on third is almost suicide, when you know he's gonna come and instantly remax on zealots. i even expected PF's inbetween second and third, when he put two additional cc. if protoss comes for you, you drop their third and fourth and so on...

hard map for terran, boxer is 1-6 now 1-7 at that specific map right?
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
March 16 2012 10:04 GMT
#457
On March 16 2012 19:02 FidoDido wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 19:01 synaptik wrote:
On March 16 2012 18:59 HaXXspetten wrote:
I sense a lot of tension from all the Terrans on this forum right now :o


isnt it great to see the terran QQ after a year of gsl domination?


strange, I could've swore there are more toss tension in the first 10 pages when creator got 2raxed.

except that had nothing to do with balance, that was just Supernova doing a lame build, not the same thing
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
March 16 2012 10:04 GMT
#458
I've noticed a trend really. Every matchup with Protoss involved is just badly designed. I blame warp ins.
The Bomber boy
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
March 16 2012 10:04 GMT
#459
Terran's need to harass, Polt/MKP/Puma are always dropping or faking drops while still macro'n beautifully. Boxer seemed to just want to play a no rush style which is fine but his macro wasn't that great (sadly) his armory was to late to go straight into 2/2 and his 3/3 was started very late even tho he was floating the resources.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
March 16 2012 10:04 GMT
#460
On March 16 2012 18:58 Fubi wrote:
Max supply vs Max supply, Creator steamrolled Boxer only using half of his army, what?


Welcome to Zerg one year ago. Protoss deathballs are strong. You can't A-move at them.
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