• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:27
CET 04:27
KST 12:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT29Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains2Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block2GSL CK - New online series13BSL Season 224Vitality ends partnership with ONSYDE20
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block GSL CK - New online series Weekly Cups (Feb 23-Mar 1): herO doubles, 2v2 bonanza Vitality ends partnership with ONSYDE
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
Recent recommended BW games ASL21 General Discussion BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Season 22
Tourneys
ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues BWCL Season 64 Announcement [BSL22] Open Qualifier #1 - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread Path of Exile No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC) Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Gaming-Related Deaths
TrAiDoS
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1589 users

[ONOG] i2 $5,000 32-player March 27th - April 1st - Page 34

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
1169 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 59 Next
Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
March 31 2012 02:18 GMT
#661
On March 31 2012 11:03 goswser wrote:
I don't really like the player caster combo unless the player is commentating a matchup with his own race in it. Terran players are pretty useless when casting PvZ.


I think that can be true sometimes for sure. Machine not casting Zerg matchups can be interesting to say the least. However, I think Pokebunny is providing good knowledge of the protoss race and zerg race, and at the very least, Tumba can fill in on anything he's missing out on.

It amazes me how young pokebunny is, he is quite professional and a very good caster =) Always love Tumba too so overall I think they work very nicely together =)
The multiplying villanies of man do swarm upon him.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 31 2012 02:30 GMT
#662
Pokebunnys wpm is quite impressive. Very talkative guy. ^^
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
oldahe
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria534 Posts
March 31 2012 02:32 GMT
#663
someone please shoot the observer!
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
March 31 2012 02:35 GMT
#664
On March 31 2012 11:32 oldahe wrote:
someone please shoot the observer!

Haha, quite true. Observer-dude, the mini-map is your friend!
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 31 2012 02:42 GMT
#665
So these were the results today:

Dream 1-2 Sase
Alive 2-0 Socke
Alive 0-2 Catz
Snute 2-0 Killer
Violet 2-0 Nightend
Pig 0-2 TLO

Only 6 series compared to yesterdays 14. A more even distribution would be nice both for casters (poor Gwin almost died yesterday :p) and viewers. Thanks for the games. ^^
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 31 2012 02:52 GMT
#666
On March 31 2012 11:42 AlternativeEgo wrote:
So these were the results today:

Dream 1-2 Sase
Alive 2-0 Socke
Alive 0-2 Catz
Snute 2-0 Killer
Violet 2-0 Nightend
Pig 0-2 TLO

Only 6 series compared to yesterdays 14. A more even distribution would be nice both for casters (poor Gwin almost died yesterday :p) and viewers. Thanks for the games. ^^


Wow, Catz 2-0 aLive? Amazing upset there
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
March 31 2012 02:55 GMT
#667
On March 31 2012 10:54 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 10:41 dot89 wrote:
Norwegians aren't very nice, are they?


We are, but remember Norway is the home of the Trolls...

Haha, that's good. ^^
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
March 31 2012 03:00 GMT
#668
On March 31 2012 11:03 goswser wrote:
I don't really like the player caster combo unless the player is commentating a matchup with his own race in it. Terran players are pretty useless when casting PvZ.

You feel like I've been giving bad analysis? I have been playing protoss a lot at high master level lately, and I cast/watch tons of games. If you'd point out where I was wrong, I'd gladly improve.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
PiGStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia999 Posts
March 31 2012 03:31 GMT
#669
I just wanted to post to say thanks to ONOG for putting me in the vote to get into this tournament. Also thanks to everyone from SEA who voted for me to get into it. It was a great opportunity to compete with some of the best players around the world.

Unfortunately I didn't play my best and didn't take a single game which was really disappointing for me. It's been a learning experience though and I always try to walk away from every loss with motivation to work harder. These were all fantastic players and I learnt from each loss:

Playing Titan taught me that I need to be unafraid to cheese players who have a tendency to play very risky. If I want to macro vs odd and greedy playstyles I need to be extremely well practiced with my defensive timings. I was off by ~30-60seconds in both games against titan with overdroning.

Playing Select I realised the main problem was a large lack of terran practice partners. To a lesser extent i had the same problem against Titan as SEA's top players are mostly Zergs and very few T and P. Since my loss to Select I've decided to go to a net cafe several times a week to train on the NA server with some of the pro teams there to improve my vP and vT. I didn't do this previously cos my connection to NA from home is ~300ping.

Playing TLO I realised I was not used to playing such strange opening builds and while I feel I made the right decisions with my openers in each game I failed in some other stages. Game 1 I failed to drone hard enough and scout his front often enough in the earlygame and then was completely caught off guard by the nydus because I didn;t overseer scout immediately when my lair finished. Game 2 I tried muta play to counter his insanely late gas build. However I rarely train this and so my defense from his lingbane aggression was too thin and i took over 10 drone losses, delaying my mutas long enough to get up his 3rd safely. I also didn't prioritise my mutas to attacking drones as well as I could have.

All in all I feel I embarrased myself in quite a few of these games. But rather than hiding it I accept that I haven't trained hard enough, with good enough players. I've isolated myself in the smaller SEA scene with just Korean ladder to improve my skill and as a result I've really neglected large areas of my play. It's time to really switch on and hopefully give myself a better showing the next time an opportunity like this comes along.

Thanks Deric and Hannah for organising this, you guys are insane doing this all on your own. Also shoutout to the casters for doing a great job, I appreciate the effort you guys put into entertaining us.

Progamerwww.twitch.tv/x5_pig | pigrandom88@gmail.com | @x5_PiG | www.facebook.com/pigSC2
HydraFucaZ
Profile Joined May 2011
104 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 03:37:47
March 31 2012 03:36 GMT
#670
On March 31 2012 11:18 Liquid`TLO wrote:
that can happen to any other play as well, also it's nice to give newcomers opportunities to show their skill, even if sometimes it does not work out I am happy ONOG gives people a chance.

Wouldn't it be boring if the scene is entirely static and no new kids ever get a chance?


Very true. It wasn't long ago Snute was in this position too, a lot of people were doubting him and hesitant towards inviting him to these kind of events
http://www.gamersleague.no
Uglymutt
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia57 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 03:57:15
March 31 2012 03:56 GMT
#671
On March 31 2012 12:31 PiGStarcraft wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I just wanted to post to say thanks to ONOG for putting me in the vote to get into this tournament. Also thanks to everyone from SEA who voted for me to get into it. It was a great opportunity to compete with some of the best players around the world.

Unfortunately I didn't play my best and didn't take a single game which was really disappointing for me. It's been a learning experience though and I always try to walk away from every loss with motivation to work harder. These were all fantastic players and I learnt from each loss:

Playing Titan taught me that I need to be unafraid to cheese players who have a tendency to play very risky. If I want to macro vs odd and greedy playstyles I need to be extremely well practiced with my defensive timings. I was off by ~30-60seconds in both games against titan with overdroning.

Playing Select I realised the main problem was a large lack of terran practice partners. To a lesser extent i had the same problem against Titan as SEA's top players are mostly Zergs and very few T and P. Since my loss to Select I've decided to go to a net cafe several times a week to train on the NA server with some of the pro teams there to improve my vP and vT. I didn't do this previously cos my connection to NA from home is ~300ping.

Playing TLO I realised I was not used to playing such strange opening builds and while I feel I made the right decisions with my openers in each game I failed in some other stages. Game 1 I failed to drone hard enough and scout his front often enough in the earlygame and then was completely caught off guard by the nydus because I didn;t overseer scout immediately when my lair finished. Game 2 I tried muta play to counter his insanely late gas build. However I rarely train this and so my defense from his lingbane aggression was too thin and i took over 10 drone losses, delaying my mutas long enough to get up his 3rd safely. I also didn't prioritise my mutas to attacking drones as well as I could have.

All in all I feel I embarrased myself in quite a few of these games. But rather than hiding it I accept that I haven't trained hard enough, with good enough players. I've isolated myself in the smaller SEA scene with just Korean ladder to improve my skill and as a result I've really neglected large areas of my play. It's time to really switch on and hopefully give myself a better showing the next time an opportunity like this comes along.

Thanks Deric and Hannah for organising this, you guys are insane doing this all on your own. Also shoutout to the casters for doing a great job, I appreciate the effort you guys put into entertaining us.




Thanks for playing PiG I'm glad you're using this opportunity to improve your practice and become a better player. I'm glad I got to watch all your games, you're one of my favourite players.

Good luck in the future, I'm looking forward to an even better PiG.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 31 2012 04:06 GMT
#672
On March 31 2012 12:00 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 11:03 goswser wrote:
I don't really like the player caster combo unless the player is commentating a matchup with his own race in it. Terran players are pretty useless when casting PvZ.

You feel like I've been giving bad analysis? I have been playing protoss a lot at high master level lately, and I cast/watch tons of games. If you'd point out where I was wrong, I'd gladly improve.


As a high(ish) level random player I felt your analysis was quite good. Liked the casting and felt you knew what you were doing.
My only real criticism would be that you should cool down a little when dual casting and make sure the other caster gets to say things. You talked over Tumba a couple of times and I like having casters bring each other to a higher level.
Thanks for casting tonight, you did a great job.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
tripper688
Profile Joined January 2011
United States569 Posts
March 31 2012 05:37 GMT
#673
On March 31 2012 11:03 goswser wrote:
I don't really like the player caster combo unless the player is commentating a matchup with his own race in it. Terran players are pretty useless when casting PvZ.


Idk, so should bitterdam and tastosis never cast TvTs again? Or is this specifically referring to this tourney?
"Excuse me I gotta do some vacuuming really fast *vrrrrrrmmmmmmmmm*" Day[9]
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
March 31 2012 06:18 GMT
#674
i found it hard to listen to pokebunny today. i don't mean to be mean it's just his voice is still a bit young and i'd prefer to listen to somebody with a smoother voice like tumba. pretty good analysis from poke tho, too bad he's not a coupole years older.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
March 31 2012 06:24 GMT
#675
Forgot to watch this, come back and see Snute winning his group. This pleases me.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
March 31 2012 06:50 GMT
#676
On March 31 2012 14:37 tripper688 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 11:03 goswser wrote:
I don't really like the player caster combo unless the player is commentating a matchup with his own race in it. Terran players are pretty useless when casting PvZ.


Idk, so should bitterdam and tastosis never cast TvTs again? Or is this specifically referring to this tourney?

Bitterdam and Tastosis are casters, they have been casting for years, so it is irrelevant what race they play, since they have casted for a very long time. Pokebunny's analysis isn't bad on what he talks about, but there is a lot of essential details about the non-terran matchups which he misses, and Tumba doesn't always pick up on them either.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
StateSC2
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 08:04:52
March 31 2012 08:04 GMT
#677
If anyone has Socke added on EU, could you ask him to join the channel ONOGC please? Thanks [:
Fireblast!: "This guy is pointless and wonderful"
Raflal
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway11 Posts
March 31 2012 08:10 GMT
#678
I don't see why people expect Pokebunny to be a perfect caster, he's 16 with very little casting background. He did a great job and really lifted the tournament castingwise for me. It's also been great to see non-famous players get to join a rather big tournament, I was honestly getting tired of seeing the same names everywhere, there's alot of "pro" players being outclassed by newcomers and it's about time to stop letting players who are not as good as the hype wants them to be take all the spots.

I hope the live games of the tournament will go 9000 times smoother than the replays has because it's been downright painful to follow the games so far.

Also people like Joakiiim should just gtfo, all you do is make the rest of your nation look as bad as you do, please stop doing that. >_>
mki
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Poland882 Posts
March 31 2012 08:11 GMT
#679
On March 31 2012 17:04 vileState wrote:
If anyone has Socke added on EU, could you ask him to join the channel ONOGC please? Thanks [:


Add him through the GM ladder
Head of New Business at Team Kinguin :: https://www.teamkinguin.com
Orval
Profile Joined February 2012
Norway236 Posts
March 31 2012 08:39 GMT
#680
On March 31 2012 10:26 Joakiiim wrote:
Snute won his group 3-0 in matches and 6-1 in maps.
Nerchio is up 2-0 in matches and 4-0 in maps.
Pig is down 0-2 in matches and 0-4 in maps.
Yeah, Pig deserved his spot =P


How can you be speaking against up-and-comers/underdogs getting a shot in tourneys when our own norwegian players are in that exact same position? See snute in IEM Sao Paolo, bet you didn't go out of your way to tell the world he didn't deserve that chance. gtfo with that bs son
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 59 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#72
PiGStarcraft642
EnkiAlexander 41
davetesta28
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft642
RuFF_SC2 202
Nathanias 32
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 2093
Shuttle 340
Dewaltoss 225
Dota 2
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
minikerr11
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1522
C9.Mang0481
Other Games
summit1g13096
Maynarde87
ViBE51
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2042
BasetradeTV53
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 198
• HeavenSC 26
• practicex 21
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo799
Other Games
• Scarra454
Upcoming Events
GSL
6h 33m
WardiTV Team League
8h 33m
The PondCast
1d 6h
WardiTV Team League
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
[ Show More ]
BSL
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
WardiTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
NationLESS Cup
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.