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wow those invites... i always wonder what tournament organizers think while invinting some of those players...
i mean i'm not going to say who i mean by that cuz i don't want to get banned but i really don't know why you would invite some of those players just so they can play go 0-3 (or maybe 1-2 in some groups where there is another one of those invites)
i don't know who wants to see this but i know i don't
if you want some underdogs that might do well then hold qualifiers but if you invite not even b-class stars you won't get upsets...
sry for the negativity because i really like what you are doing and how you are doing it but it's just such a shame that we get such a ...not good i guess.... player pool once again
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On March 29 2012 02:22 sVnteen wrote:
wow those invites... i always wonder what tournament organizers think while invinting some of those players...
i mean i'm not going to say who i mean by that cuz i don't want to get banned but i really don't know why you would invite some of those players just so they can play go 0-3 (or maybe 1-2 in some groups where there is another one of those invites)
i don't know who wants to see this but i know i don't
if you want some underdogs that might do well then hold qualifiers but if you invite not even b-class stars you won't get upsets...
sry for the negativity because i really like what you are doing and how you are doing it but it's just such a shame that we get such a ...not good i guess.... player pool once again
As u say, sorry for the negativity, I dont understand why you post this here. This is not MLG or Dreamhack and its not GSL... Its a barcraft funded tournament that does a fantastic job exposing some of the hard working starcraft2 players that dont really get alott of "free" exposure!
So please, take your negativity somewhere els.
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On March 29 2012 02:54 Atoissen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 02:22 sVnteen wrote:
wow those invites... i always wonder what tournament organizers think while invinting some of those players...
i mean i'm not going to say who i mean by that cuz i don't want to get banned but i really don't know why you would invite some of those players just so they can play go 0-3 (or maybe 1-2 in some groups where there is another one of those invites)
i don't know who wants to see this but i know i don't
if you want some underdogs that might do well then hold qualifiers but if you invite not even b-class stars you won't get upsets...
sry for the negativity because i really like what you are doing and how you are doing it but it's just such a shame that we get such a ...not good i guess.... player pool once again As u say, sorry for the negativity, I dont understand why you post this here. This is not MLG or Dreamhack and its not GSL... Its a barcraft funded tournament that does a fantastic job exposing some of the hard working starcraft2 players that dont really get alott of "free" exposure! So please, take your negativity somewhere els.
so you are saying that this tournament is not organized by a big organization so i should just ignore the HUGE yet easy to avoid flaws of it and just not watch it?
yeah i won't watch it until probably like the quater finals until the players i have been talking about are filtered out ...
if you want everyone in this community to have this attitude you will quickly find yourself with tournaments having far far less viewers because noone says what they don't like but instead they just don't watch it and pout...
well if this is what you want... fine not posting my constructive criticism for this tournament anymore
gl with getting any viewers if you ever want to organize anything
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On March 29 2012 03:25 sVnteen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 02:54 Atoissen wrote:On March 29 2012 02:22 sVnteen wrote:
wow those invites... i always wonder what tournament organizers think while invinting some of those players...
i mean i'm not going to say who i mean by that cuz i don't want to get banned but i really don't know why you would invite some of those players just so they can play go 0-3 (or maybe 1-2 in some groups where there is another one of those invites)
i don't know who wants to see this but i know i don't
if you want some underdogs that might do well then hold qualifiers but if you invite not even b-class stars you won't get upsets...
sry for the negativity because i really like what you are doing and how you are doing it but it's just such a shame that we get such a ...not good i guess.... player pool once again As u say, sorry for the negativity, I dont understand why you post this here. This is not MLG or Dreamhack and its not GSL... Its a barcraft funded tournament that does a fantastic job exposing some of the hard working starcraft2 players that dont really get alott of "free" exposure! So please, take your negativity somewhere els. so you are saying that this tournament is not organized by a big organization so i should just ignore the HUGE yet easy to avoid flaws of it and just not watch it? yeah i won't watch it until probably like the quater finals until the players i have been talking about are filtered out ... if you want everyone in this community to have this attitude you will quickly find yourself with tournaments having far far less viewers because noone says what they don't like but instead they just don't watch it and pout... well if this is what you want... fine not posting my constructive criticism for this tournament anymore gl with getting any viewers if you ever want to organize anything
Im sure im not alone with thinking they managed to find lotts of good and exciting players + some upcoming talent.
And I for one is just as excited to see these upcoming talents as I am seeing the big stars wich I can see almost everyday anyway in GSL... And I am sure there are many others that feel the same way.
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On March 29 2012 02:54 Atoissen wrote:
So please, take your negativity somewhere els.
Why? He's allowed to have a opinion about this tournament, just like everyone else. Every event that's organized is a good thing but it's not the end of the world when you criticize it or have negative opinion about it. A lot of people here have such long toes.
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On March 29 2012 03:33 Atoissen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 03:25 sVnteen wrote:On March 29 2012 02:54 Atoissen wrote:On March 29 2012 02:22 sVnteen wrote:
wow those invites... i always wonder what tournament organizers think while invinting some of those players...
i mean i'm not going to say who i mean by that cuz i don't want to get banned but i really don't know why you would invite some of those players just so they can play go 0-3 (or maybe 1-2 in some groups where there is another one of those invites)
i don't know who wants to see this but i know i don't
if you want some underdogs that might do well then hold qualifiers but if you invite not even b-class stars you won't get upsets...
sry for the negativity because i really like what you are doing and how you are doing it but it's just such a shame that we get such a ...not good i guess.... player pool once again As u say, sorry for the negativity, I dont understand why you post this here. This is not MLG or Dreamhack and its not GSL... Its a barcraft funded tournament that does a fantastic job exposing some of the hard working starcraft2 players that dont really get alott of "free" exposure! So please, take your negativity somewhere els. so you are saying that this tournament is not organized by a big organization so i should just ignore the HUGE yet easy to avoid flaws of it and just not watch it? yeah i won't watch it until probably like the quater finals until the players i have been talking about are filtered out ... if you want everyone in this community to have this attitude you will quickly find yourself with tournaments having far far less viewers because noone says what they don't like but instead they just don't watch it and pout... well if this is what you want... fine not posting my constructive criticism for this tournament anymore gl with getting any viewers if you ever want to organize anything Im sure im not alone with thinking they managed to find lotts of good and exciting players + some upcoming talent. And I for one is just as excited to see these upcoming talents as I am seeing the big stars wich I can see almost everyday anyway in GSL... And I am sure there are many others that feel the same way.
i know that quite a lot of people like this tournament and all and i like it too but i just want to help them to get more viewers by suggesting them to either hold qualifiers or just don't invite players that you know of that they wouldn't make it through any qualifiers (please don't argue with me on that one)
that way they would get people like me that don't want to see boring onesided slaughters to actually watch the group stages which can't ever be bad for them
also it's not good exposure for a player if he get's stomped in the group play of some relatively minor trounament...
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On March 29 2012 03:41 sVnteen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 03:33 Atoissen wrote:On March 29 2012 03:25 sVnteen wrote:On March 29 2012 02:54 Atoissen wrote:On March 29 2012 02:22 sVnteen wrote:
wow those invites... i always wonder what tournament organizers think while invinting some of those players...
i mean i'm not going to say who i mean by that cuz i don't want to get banned but i really don't know why you would invite some of those players just so they can play go 0-3 (or maybe 1-2 in some groups where there is another one of those invites)
i don't know who wants to see this but i know i don't
if you want some underdogs that might do well then hold qualifiers but if you invite not even b-class stars you won't get upsets...
sry for the negativity because i really like what you are doing and how you are doing it but it's just such a shame that we get such a ...not good i guess.... player pool once again As u say, sorry for the negativity, I dont understand why you post this here. This is not MLG or Dreamhack and its not GSL... Its a barcraft funded tournament that does a fantastic job exposing some of the hard working starcraft2 players that dont really get alott of "free" exposure! So please, take your negativity somewhere els. so you are saying that this tournament is not organized by a big organization so i should just ignore the HUGE yet easy to avoid flaws of it and just not watch it? yeah i won't watch it until probably like the quater finals until the players i have been talking about are filtered out ... if you want everyone in this community to have this attitude you will quickly find yourself with tournaments having far far less viewers because noone says what they don't like but instead they just don't watch it and pout... well if this is what you want... fine not posting my constructive criticism for this tournament anymore gl with getting any viewers if you ever want to organize anything Im sure im not alone with thinking they managed to find lotts of good and exciting players + some upcoming talent. And I for one is just as excited to see these upcoming talents as I am seeing the big stars wich I can see almost everyday anyway in GSL... And I am sure there are many others that feel the same way. i know that quite a lot of people like this tournament and all and i like it too but i just want to help them to get more viewers by suggesting them to either hold qualifiers or just don't invite players that you know of that they wouldn't make it through any qualifiers (please don't argue with me on that one) that way they would get people like me that don't want to see boring onesided slaughters to actually watch the group stages which can't ever be bad for them also it's not good exposure for a player if he get's stomped in the group play of some relatively minor trounament...
In a perfect world, we would hold qualifiers, how ever you have to realize, that this is a side thing for us. We have full time jobs and I am a full time student as well. It makes it really hard to be able to schedule anything, especially during midterm season.
I thank you for the input on that, it is something we have been toying with 
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On March 29 2012 03:59 omnomMuffins wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 03:41 sVnteen wrote:On March 29 2012 03:33 Atoissen wrote:On March 29 2012 03:25 sVnteen wrote:On March 29 2012 02:54 Atoissen wrote:On March 29 2012 02:22 sVnteen wrote:
wow those invites... i always wonder what tournament organizers think while invinting some of those players...
i mean i'm not going to say who i mean by that cuz i don't want to get banned but i really don't know why you would invite some of those players just so they can play go 0-3 (or maybe 1-2 in some groups where there is another one of those invites)
i don't know who wants to see this but i know i don't
if you want some underdogs that might do well then hold qualifiers but if you invite not even b-class stars you won't get upsets...
sry for the negativity because i really like what you are doing and how you are doing it but it's just such a shame that we get such a ...not good i guess.... player pool once again As u say, sorry for the negativity, I dont understand why you post this here. This is not MLG or Dreamhack and its not GSL... Its a barcraft funded tournament that does a fantastic job exposing some of the hard working starcraft2 players that dont really get alott of "free" exposure! So please, take your negativity somewhere els. so you are saying that this tournament is not organized by a big organization so i should just ignore the HUGE yet easy to avoid flaws of it and just not watch it? yeah i won't watch it until probably like the quater finals until the players i have been talking about are filtered out ... if you want everyone in this community to have this attitude you will quickly find yourself with tournaments having far far less viewers because noone says what they don't like but instead they just don't watch it and pout... well if this is what you want... fine not posting my constructive criticism for this tournament anymore gl with getting any viewers if you ever want to organize anything Im sure im not alone with thinking they managed to find lotts of good and exciting players + some upcoming talent. And I for one is just as excited to see these upcoming talents as I am seeing the big stars wich I can see almost everyday anyway in GSL... And I am sure there are many others that feel the same way. i know that quite a lot of people like this tournament and all and i like it too but i just want to help them to get more viewers by suggesting them to either hold qualifiers or just don't invite players that you know of that they wouldn't make it through any qualifiers (please don't argue with me on that one) that way they would get people like me that don't want to see boring onesided slaughters to actually watch the group stages which can't ever be bad for them also it's not good exposure for a player if he get's stomped in the group play of some relatively minor trounament... In a perfect world, we would hold qualifiers, how ever you have to realize, that this is a side thing for us. We have full time jobs and I am a full time student as well. It makes it really hard to be able to schedule anything, especially during midterm season. I thank you for the input on that, it is something we have been toying with
yeah sure i know that i was just thinking that you should probably be more careful with picking the players you invite if you really want to get a bigger, more prestigeous tournament
you are still doing a great job gogo
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On March 29 2012 04:20 sVnteen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 03:59 omnomMuffins wrote:On March 29 2012 03:41 sVnteen wrote:On March 29 2012 03:33 Atoissen wrote:On March 29 2012 03:25 sVnteen wrote:On March 29 2012 02:54 Atoissen wrote:On March 29 2012 02:22 sVnteen wrote:
wow those invites... i always wonder what tournament organizers think while invinting some of those players...
i mean i'm not going to say who i mean by that cuz i don't want to get banned but i really don't know why you would invite some of those players just so they can play go 0-3 (or maybe 1-2 in some groups where there is another one of those invites)
i don't know who wants to see this but i know i don't
if you want some underdogs that might do well then hold qualifiers but if you invite not even b-class stars you won't get upsets...
sry for the negativity because i really like what you are doing and how you are doing it but it's just such a shame that we get such a ...not good i guess.... player pool once again As u say, sorry for the negativity, I dont understand why you post this here. This is not MLG or Dreamhack and its not GSL... Its a barcraft funded tournament that does a fantastic job exposing some of the hard working starcraft2 players that dont really get alott of "free" exposure! So please, take your negativity somewhere els. so you are saying that this tournament is not organized by a big organization so i should just ignore the HUGE yet easy to avoid flaws of it and just not watch it? yeah i won't watch it until probably like the quater finals until the players i have been talking about are filtered out ... if you want everyone in this community to have this attitude you will quickly find yourself with tournaments having far far less viewers because noone says what they don't like but instead they just don't watch it and pout... well if this is what you want... fine not posting my constructive criticism for this tournament anymore gl with getting any viewers if you ever want to organize anything Im sure im not alone with thinking they managed to find lotts of good and exciting players + some upcoming talent. And I for one is just as excited to see these upcoming talents as I am seeing the big stars wich I can see almost everyday anyway in GSL... And I am sure there are many others that feel the same way. i know that quite a lot of people like this tournament and all and i like it too but i just want to help them to get more viewers by suggesting them to either hold qualifiers or just don't invite players that you know of that they wouldn't make it through any qualifiers (please don't argue with me on that one) that way they would get people like me that don't want to see boring onesided slaughters to actually watch the group stages which can't ever be bad for them also it's not good exposure for a player if he get's stomped in the group play of some relatively minor trounament... In a perfect world, we would hold qualifiers, how ever you have to realize, that this is a side thing for us. We have full time jobs and I am a full time student as well. It makes it really hard to be able to schedule anything, especially during midterm season. I thank you for the input on that, it is something we have been toying with yeah sure i know that i was just thinking that you should probably be more careful with picking the players you invite if you really want to get a bigger, more prestigeous tournament you are still doing a great job gogo
Your criticism is welcome. In addition to what Muffins stated, please understand that just because we don't manage to get the absolute best lineup, it does not mean we didn't try to. Example: Thorzain was invited but had to decline because of a test. This week, in general, is really difficult with all the traveling since we started group stages yesterday, 2 days after MLG. We've definitely talked about qualifiers. There are a lot of things we want to improve about our tournaments. Secondly, not every manager, player or team necessarily responds to us. There are many factors that affect who we can or can't get for a tournament.
I hope you will at least agree that this is at least a better overall lineup than our first event. I hope that shows you that we do listen and try to get better each time.
We also made the weekend live broadcast to start earlier, at 2 EST for all our Euro homies across the pond.
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On March 29 2012 03:25 sVnteen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 02:54 Atoissen wrote:On March 29 2012 02:22 sVnteen wrote:
wow those invites... i always wonder what tournament organizers think while invinting some of those players...
i mean i'm not going to say who i mean by that cuz i don't want to get banned but i really don't know why you would invite some of those players just so they can play go 0-3 (or maybe 1-2 in some groups where there is another one of those invites)
i don't know who wants to see this but i know i don't
if you want some underdogs that might do well then hold qualifiers but if you invite not even b-class stars you won't get upsets...
sry for the negativity because i really like what you are doing and how you are doing it but it's just such a shame that we get such a ...not good i guess.... player pool once again As u say, sorry for the negativity, I dont understand why you post this here. This is not MLG or Dreamhack and its not GSL... Its a barcraft funded tournament that does a fantastic job exposing some of the hard working starcraft2 players that dont really get alott of "free" exposure! So please, take your negativity somewhere els. so you are saying that this tournament is not organized by a big organization so i should just ignore the HUGE yet easy to avoid flaws of it and just not watch it? yeah i won't watch it until probably like the quater finals until the players i have been talking about are filtered out ... if you want everyone in this community to have this attitude you will quickly find yourself with tournaments having far far less viewers because noone says what they don't like but instead they just don't watch it and pout... well if this is what you want... fine not posting my constructive criticism for this tournament anymore gl with getting any viewers if you ever want to organize anything
Look at the damn groups you fool
Let me read out some of the big names. If you don't recognize these you must be a total dumbass...
aLive, Sheth, Sase, Kas, Killer, SeleCT, TLO, ViOlet, NightEnD, Illusion, Sleep, Axslav, Ret, Grubby, Nerchio, Feast, Rain, CatZ, Socke, State, DreAm
Which one of these is bad? This is like 1/2 the entire groups Lol. Retard???
21/32 btw. Counted You derp??
I think ur mad cause they didn't put Stephano in. It'd be nice if they did but there are a lot of other players kk?
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Not every tournament needs to have the best players ever . Not every tournament needs the same players . That's a really stupid thing to think or want. If you like GSL's player lineup, then only care about GSL. It would be boring / lame if every tournament had the same 20 players playing. ONOG tournaments have people you don't see every day. They might not field the best tournament lineup ever, but the games will be nice, the prize is nice, and its good to allow different players a chance to show themselves
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We also made the weekend live broadcast to start earlier, at 2 EST for all our Euro homies across the pond.
You cant see it, but my thumbs are actually up
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On March 29 2012 05:53 Xeris wrote:
Not every tournament needs to have the best players ever . Not every tournament needs the same players . That's a really stupid thing to think or want. If you like GSL's player lineup, then only care about GSL. It would be boring / lame if every tournament had the same 20 players playing. ONOG tournaments have people you don't see every day. They might not field the best tournament lineup ever, but the games will be nice, the prize is nice, and its good to allow different players a chance to show themselves
Totally agree on that!
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On March 29 2012 03:25 sVnteen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 02:54 Atoissen wrote:On March 29 2012 02:22 sVnteen wrote:
wow those invites... i always wonder what tournament organizers think while invinting some of those players...
i mean i'm not going to say who i mean by that cuz i don't want to get banned but i really don't know why you would invite some of those players just so they can play go 0-3 (or maybe 1-2 in some groups where there is another one of those invites)
i don't know who wants to see this but i know i don't
if you want some underdogs that might do well then hold qualifiers but if you invite not even b-class stars you won't get upsets...
sry for the negativity because i really like what you are doing and how you are doing it but it's just such a shame that we get such a ...not good i guess.... player pool once again As u say, sorry for the negativity, I dont understand why you post this here. This is not MLG or Dreamhack and its not GSL... Its a barcraft funded tournament that does a fantastic job exposing some of the hard working starcraft2 players that dont really get alott of "free" exposure! So please, take your negativity somewhere els. so you are saying that this tournament is not organized by a big organization so i should just ignore the HUGE yet easy to avoid flaws of it and just not watch it? yeah i won't watch it until probably like the quater finals until the players i have been talking about are filtered out ... if you want everyone in this community to have this attitude you will quickly find yourself with tournaments having far far less viewers because noone says what they don't like but instead they just don't watch it and pout... well if this is what you want... fine not posting my constructive criticism for this tournament anymore gl with getting any viewers if you ever want to organize anything
His attitude is way better than yours. If everyone in this community would have your attitude, GSL would be the only tournament to have viewers at all.
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We will push through as many as we can, when the casters pass out, then we will pick up from there tomorrow
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I think that for an invitational tournament (especially with a lot of players and group stage) mixing top pros with underdogs is the best approach. There is no harm in giving lesser known guys some exposure, actually it's much better than, for example, inviting the same fan-favorites over and over again.
In the end you will have a solid round of sixteen lineup anyway, with all the deserving players and serious title contenders.
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kas before killer??? Have people lost their senses?
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On March 29 2012 05:53 Xeris wrote:
Not every tournament needs to have the best players ever . Not every tournament needs the same players . That's a really stupid thing to think or want. If you like GSL's player lineup, then only care about GSL. It would be boring / lame if every tournament had the same 20 players playing. ONOG tournaments have people you don't see every day. They might not field the best tournament lineup ever, but the games will be nice, the prize is nice, and its good to allow different players a chance to show themselves
Tbh, in my eyes, the last tournament was a lot less fun than it could have been because the lineup was so lopsided in skill that at least half of the games were really awful. But it doesn't seem nearly as imbalanced at the moment, so I'm pretty confident it'll be relatively good this time.
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Strange. Tumba got the same sound issue as the second caster yesterday.
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