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GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
March 07 2012 10:35 GMT
#881
Feast played poorly...
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 07 2012 10:35 GMT
#882
On March 07 2012 19:34 Asha` wrote:
Even Idra can win with mutas xD


Lol!
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
March 07 2012 10:35 GMT
#883
On March 07 2012 19:34 ragnorr wrote:
So many mistakes from both players in this game.......

When you arent observing you don't have perfect foresight.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 07 2012 10:35 GMT
#884
IDRAAAAAAAAA :D
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
March 07 2012 10:35 GMT
#885
What an upset!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Delicious Insanity
Profile Joined November 2011
Belgium841 Posts
March 07 2012 10:35 GMT
#886
Awesome flanking by Idra.
doffe
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden636 Posts
March 07 2012 10:35 GMT
#887
On March 07 2012 19:32 Megabuster123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:30 doffe wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:29 Philipd122 wrote:
I'm trying to analyse why IdrA's macro has been so poor lately, it seriously looks like he has a 80% handicap on normal zerg macro. I mean his queen injects look fine and he's constantly droning but he somehow doesnt have enough larva, drones and units I'm used to seeing in ZvP.


The difference between IdrA and other similar zergs like Ret is that IdrA doesnt seem to think he needs to micro his units at all sometime. He just amoves and is often extremly costinefficient with his army.

I'm pretty sure this is simply not true, I've seen Idra do fairly strong micro in vT and vZ. The difference is that he makes some terrible decisions mid game because he literally always assumes that's he's behind during every game.


Idras armycontrol is definatly sub par compared to alot of other top zergs with a macro focus. If it is a lack of control, multitasking (doubt that) or simply a contious choice to focus on macro I do not know. But I must say that players like ret, drg, stephano seems to get about the same amount of units but focus alot more on controling them then what ive seen idra do.

Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 10:36:50
March 07 2012 10:35 GMT
#888
On March 07 2012 19:32 Lasbike wrote:
Why is Idra going Mutas against a phoenix opening..

Because Phoenixs are terrible vs Mutas. I mean, they aren't terrible in fights. But they don't fit well into builds to counter Mutalisks....

The range upgrade is for late game muta transitions where you have to deal with a ridiculous amounts of Mutalisks, and can easily afford the Fleet Beacon (or already have it/on the way for Mothership)
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
March 07 2012 10:35 GMT
#889
lol IdrA won:D
All I do is Stim.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
March 07 2012 10:35 GMT
#890
storms and/or archons idra played so bad but got away with it
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
March 07 2012 10:35 GMT
#891
FFS feast, get fleet beacon :/
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
Philipd122
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia776 Posts
March 07 2012 10:35 GMT
#892
On March 07 2012 19:32 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:29 Philipd122 wrote:
I'm trying to analyse why IdrA's macro has been so poor lately, it seriously looks like he has a 80% handicap on normal zerg macro. I mean his queen injects look fine and he's constantly droning but he somehow doesnt have enough larva, drones and units I'm used to seeing in ZvP.

It seems like he plays overly safe. Unlike most zergs he saccs 2 overlords every single game and doesn't capitalise on it. That adds up - especially if you aren't reading the opponent correctly. Despite knowing exactly what was going on, this game Idra ends up with muta/ling/roach against phoenix/blinkstalker/immortal/sentry with both on 3 bases (initially); that's a good situation for P no matter how you read it.

Basically he doesn't make plays to 'get ahead', only to stay alive/equal. Doesn't look like it's working =/


Yeah I guess your right. It seems he plays ZvP expecting every game to be a 2 base all in when everyone opens stargate against him xD.
Oz | Leenock | GuMiho | Lucky | MC | PartinG | DRG | Mvp
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
March 07 2012 10:35 GMT
#893
Can't even remember the last time I saw Idra win a game, cool.
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
March 07 2012 10:35 GMT
#894
Cool game by IdrA, hope the 2nd one will be even better :p
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 07 2012 10:35 GMT
#895
How about all the mindless Idra bashers stop offering LR. Stuff like: "Idra is playing bad, it's a muta versus phoenix opening" doesn't seem to correspond to what's going on in the game. Let people that understand the game comment.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Benjamin80
Profile Joined February 2012
581 Posts
March 07 2012 10:35 GMT
#896
Wow Idra won a game hehe.

But holy shit Feast that was bad play. You were so fare ahead
[QUOTE][B]On March 19 2012 02:32 iNcontroL wrote:[/B] IF LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS YOU CANNON RUSH[/QUOTE]
Pey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden40 Posts
March 07 2012 10:35 GMT
#897
On March 07 2012 19:32 zul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:31 Pey wrote:
What's the deal with running the main stream in just 450p quality? Is there anything I've missed here?

normal freestream quality. for the HD Pass go to esl.tv/order it`s 7€ for this event.


Thanks, appreciate the quick reply.
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 07 2012 10:35 GMT
#898
Some really bad decisions by Feast then.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
March 07 2012 10:36 GMT
#899
IDRA beast mode.
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
KosQ
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany223 Posts
March 07 2012 10:36 GMT
#900
On March 07 2012 19:35 KiNGxXx wrote:
What an upset!

Made me laugh
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