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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
February 28 2012 11:31 GMT
#1021
On February 28 2012 20:28 Vindicare605 wrote:
So far today.

Jetlag 2

MVP 1.

Curious is still a good player though and beat TheStC the last time they met without jetlag being a factor
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snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
February 28 2012 11:31 GMT
#1022
On February 28 2012 20:30 poorcloud wrote:
wow and how did he not get behind by his 3 gate openings? Why does seed 3 gate expands seems to keep with the zerg way better than FFEs.


I'm wondering this too. Seems like it just shouldn't work.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
February 28 2012 11:31 GMT
#1023
On February 28 2012 20:30 Pure-SC2 wrote:
That was a surprise. Leenock didnt get the mutalisk are good on crossfire memo?



There was a new patch memo from Blizz recently
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
February 28 2012 11:31 GMT
#1024
On February 28 2012 20:30 Pure-SC2 wrote:
That was a surprise. Leenock didnt get the mutalisk are good on crossfire memo?


It's not that mutalisks are better on crossfire than any other map - it's just that everything else is terrible on crossfire - as demonstrated.

Maybe he was afraid of 2 base fleet bacon phoenix range and didn't want to go mutalisks.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 28 2012 11:31 GMT
#1025
On February 28 2012 20:30 poorcloud wrote:
wow and how did he not get behind by his 3 gate openings? Why does seed 3 gate expands seems to keep with the zerg way better than FFEs.


because Leenock is know for playing supersafe, while a fast third would have countered both of those builds
cythaze
Profile Joined June 2011
830 Posts
February 28 2012 11:32 GMT
#1026
Can´t believe why he went hydra/nydus vs gateway expand on this map? y u no go muta leenock?!
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 11:33:18
February 28 2012 11:32 GMT
#1027
On February 28 2012 20:31 cassurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 20:29 XRaDiiX wrote:
and they want to remove this map look at how Protoss can easily force field off routes on this Map...


It's one of the worst maps for PvZ if zergs go mutas. Can't FFE. Can't get 3rd.

No one says you have to get a ground army.


Wait now that Protoss learned Phoenixes actually destroy mutas. Zerg stopped making Mutas all the time. Did you watch how Nestea got dropped out of Code S!

The chokes on this map are pretty ridiculous Protoss can just move their army to kill off a base Force Field the Path with 2-3 Force Fields and simply kill a base for the Cost of a few force fields while the Zerg army can't Defend!
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FantaFanta
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany225 Posts
February 28 2012 11:32 GMT
#1028
I am quite happy Seed won, well deserved. Also must not let the fat kid with coloured hair win 11!!!
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7997 Posts
February 28 2012 11:32 GMT
#1029
with the way things are shaping up there is a high chance of a new low in zerg numbers next code s, could be only 3 looking at the brackets and depending on how the up and down groups will be made up
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
February 28 2012 11:32 GMT
#1030
On February 28 2012 20:30 SeventhPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 20:29 Bashion wrote:
Makes nydus - walks hydras across the map

The first nydus worm was sniped dude, and with seed covering the front of his base after spotting the nydus worm, there is no way leenock can sprout one out.


I know. I mentioned it cause it was funny, especially with a queen followin them.
I've got moves like Jagger
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
February 28 2012 11:33 GMT
#1031
On February 28 2012 20:30 HaXXspetten wrote:
I guess he got the... Code S Seed


YEEAAHHHHHH



I love these :D
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SeventhPride
Profile Joined February 2012
712 Posts
February 28 2012 11:33 GMT
#1032
On February 28 2012 20:30 poorcloud wrote:
wow and how did he not get behind by his 3 gate openings? Why does seed 3 gate expands seems to keep with the zerg way better than FFEs.

The current meta game is for zergs to get the third asap when faced against ffe and most of the timings are figured out. 3 gate negates that and makes a zerg fear when to place a 3rd as its possible for protoss to switch to all out aggression anytime just by planting a few more gate ways. Zergs fear 3 gate expo more then ffe actually, since it allows protoss more options.
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
February 28 2012 11:33 GMT
#1033
On February 28 2012 20:31 snotboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 20:30 poorcloud wrote:
wow and how did he not get behind by his 3 gate openings? Why does seed 3 gate expands seems to keep with the zerg way better than FFEs.


I'm wondering this too. Seems like it just shouldn't work.


Zerg has to make units when you go gateway first, they don't need to make units when you FFE. You saw how late Leenock took a 3rd base both games. If you take it to soon, you can get hurt badly by 3-gate pressure, or killed by 5-6 gate.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
February 28 2012 11:34 GMT
#1034
On February 28 2012 20:33 Cereb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 20:30 HaXXspetten wrote:
I guess he got the... Code S Seed


YEEAAHHHHHH



I love these :D

Thanks
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
February 28 2012 11:34 GMT
#1035
On February 28 2012 20:31 snotboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 20:30 poorcloud wrote:
wow and how did he not get behind by his 3 gate openings? Why does seed 3 gate expands seems to keep with the zerg way better than FFEs.


I'm wondering this too. Seems like it just shouldn't work.


because a zerg in korea seeing no forge first expects one base allin from the toss, i would assume. There was no aggression, a few month ago you would have seen endless streams of roaches and lings till the energy of the sentries went dry even without using hallucination.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
February 28 2012 11:34 GMT
#1036
On February 28 2012 20:30 poorcloud wrote:
wow and how did he not get behind by his 3 gate openings? Why does seed 3 gate expands seems to keep with the zerg way better than FFEs.

Well Leenock didn't go Hatch first either, partly because of Seed's really early scout and Probe harassment.

From there on Leenock really wasn't ahead, also he made a lot of Slings when he probably should have droned and made the lings later with the same effect, well, lack of.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
February 28 2012 11:34 GMT
#1037
On February 28 2012 20:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 20:28 Vindicare605 wrote:
So far today.

Jetlag 2

MVP 1.

Curious is still a good player though and beat TheStC the last time they met without jetlag being a factor


Agreed but it was one very one sided, and that aspect of it I attribute to jetlag.
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Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7997 Posts
February 28 2012 11:34 GMT
#1038
On February 28 2012 20:33 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 20:31 snotboogie wrote:
On February 28 2012 20:30 poorcloud wrote:
wow and how did he not get behind by his 3 gate openings? Why does seed 3 gate expands seems to keep with the zerg way better than FFEs.


I'm wondering this too. Seems like it just shouldn't work.


Zerg has to make units when you go gateway first, they don't need to make units when you FFE. You saw how late Leenock took a 3rd base both games. If you take it to soon, you can get hurt badly by 3-gate pressure, or killed by 5-6 gate.


the key was how he was hiding all the sentries to zergling pokes, that's key to how zerg has to respond, leenock didn't drone enough and was forced into early evo and spores
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
February 28 2012 11:34 GMT
#1039
Crime and passion!!
I am not young enough to know everything.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
February 28 2012 11:34 GMT
#1040
On February 28 2012 20:31 snotboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 20:30 poorcloud wrote:
wow and how did he not get behind by his 3 gate openings? Why does seed 3 gate expands seems to keep with the zerg way better than FFEs.


I'm wondering this too. Seems like it just shouldn't work.


It worked because Leenock decided to go for a hydra bust which didn't do anything. Crossfire is good for Mutas, which he went for way too late. Also, staying on one base for a long time tends to fool Zergs into thinking something cheesy is afoot, so Leenock also had to be a bit more defensive than usual by pumping out lings to scout/defend. It is a meta game thing.
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