EPTIronSquid Qualifier #2 - Page 19
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Joko
Sweden6 Posts
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On February 06 2012 05:50 pPingu wrote: Does anyone know if they will pay the flight and the hotel or not? From what I read I understood that they will get only 500$ and a spot in the tournament but I think apollo tweeted that they will pay everything. Don't know if zenex has enough money to pay everything Group stage and quarterfinals are played online, only semifinals and finals are played "offline". Players who get there should have everything paid afaik. | ||
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Rulker
United States1477 Posts
On February 06 2012 05:52 SupLilSon wrote: ZeNex Life is playing how diamond Zergs have been playing forever now. Super fast Hive after the infestors and ballin out on Ultras and Broods. I never understood why this strategy didn't catch on with pros for so long. I guess people were just stuck on the bane/ling/muta comp. because 1) Harassment based play is strong 2) If hive is scouted ghosts are made. And ghosts, ghosts are good. | ||
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Flightan
France147 Posts
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doffe
Sweden636 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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Vladoks
Germany136 Posts
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DOUDOU
Wales2940 Posts
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
On February 06 2012 05:57 Vladoks wrote: i'm impressed, i don't think i've seen a game of life before, but tonight he's shown just how awesome he is! definitly on my radar now he is playing against JYP in code A. i will be so sad if SlayerS or foreign team steal Life from ZeNEX ... i will hate this team forever. | ||
pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
On February 06 2012 05:55 StarVe wrote: Group stage and quarterfinals are played online, only semifinals and finals are played "offline". Players who get there should have everything paid afaik. Oh thank you I missed it | ||
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doffe
Sweden636 Posts
On February 06 2012 05:52 SupLilSon wrote: ZeNex Life is playing how diamond Zergs have been playing forever now. Super fast Hive after the infestors and ballin out on Ultras and Broods. I never understood why this strategy didn't catch on with pros for so long. I guess people were just stuck on the bane/ling/muta comp. well, I guess most pros if not all are GM so they probably dont feel the need to copy diamond strats :p rushing hive is like rushing carriers and infestors does in no way make you safe. Infestors are awsome, dont get me wrong but if you only have infestors and ling/baneling you have no mapcontrol against a good terran and he will be able to expand alot more then you cause if you expand to much you will have a really really hard time dealing with dropharassement. I guess thats why mutas are popular, it more or less forces the terran to seize dropping, atleast every drop will always be killed. But hey, if it works it works, but I think quick hive will have a short life in the metagame | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On February 06 2012 05:55 Rulker wrote: because 1) Harassment based play is strong 2) If hive is scouted ghosts are made. And ghosts, ghosts are good. The faster infestors deal with harassment a lot more efficiently than a moving ling/bling around the map as well as completely shut down any marine tank based timing. He scouted the hive as well but Ghosts are costly. Also, 1 misstep like in game 2, and your ghosts will be completely worthless. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
 And french stream production is mmazing, first time I'm not ashamed of watching a french stream, quite the contrary. | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On February 06 2012 06:00 doffe wrote: well, I guess most pros if not all are GM so they probably dont feel the need to copy diamond strats :p rushing hive is like rushing carriers and infestors does in no way make you safe. Infestors are awsome, dont get me wrong but if you only have infestors and ling/baneling you have no mapcontrol against a good terran and he will be able to expand alot more then you cause if you expand to much you will have a really really hard time dealing with dropharassement. I guess thats why mutas are popular, it more or less forces the terran to seize dropping, atleast every drop will always be killed. But hey, if it works it works, but I think quick hive will have a short life in the metagame But going for the fast infestors allows you to upgrade your lings a lot faster instead of dumping 1000's of gas into mutas. Zerg can generally out upgrade terran by doing this. Mass upgraded ling/bling gives you amazing map control as the same thing that happened to keen in game 2 can happen at any time. And also drop harassment really doesn't do much. Get spines and spores and infestors at your base. Spread overlords. Life was essentially playing the strategy my platinum zerg friend used to get into diamond but he played it way better, less unspent resource, more static defense, more ovie spread, etc. People used to think Ultras and Broods sucked because noone would get them until 25+ minutes. Now zergs are getting them at 15 minutes and they aren't that bad after all... | ||
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Titorelli
2492 Posts
On February 06 2012 05:58 dragonborn wrote: he is playing against JYP in code A. i will be so sad if SlayerS or foreign team steal Life from ZeNEX ... i will hate this team forever. And JYP is fucking good at PvZ right or have I confused something here? | ||
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milesfacade
United Kingdom799 Posts
On February 06 2012 06:06 Titorelli wrote: And JYP is fucking good at PvZ right or have I confused something here? hmm DRG completely destroyed JYP so I'm not so sure his pvz is amazing, perhaps it just gets hyped up like hero's because it's really fun to watch. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On February 06 2012 05:58 dragonborn wrote: he is playing against JYP in code A. i will be so sad if SlayerS or foreign team steal Life from ZeNEX ... i will hate this team forever. That sounds remarkably childish ... You say you'll get mad if another team "steals" Life from ZeNEX, but you seem to forget that if he goes to another team, it'll be of his own accord, and it'll be his own decision. ZeNEX atm is a sinking ship; I like the team, but it's unlikely to provide as good support (financially, environmentally, etc.) than other Korean teams and some of the top foreigner teams. By all rights, it is probably better for Life's future career if he goes to another team. This might seem like it's very emotionless thinking to you, but if he leaves it'll be because he's offered a.) more money or b.) more opportunities than what he has on ZeNEX, and I wouldn't scruple with either him or the team he (hypothetically) goes to if he decides to leave ZeNEX. | ||
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
On February 06 2012 06:15 babylon wrote: That sounds remarkably childish ... You say you'll get mad if another team "steals" Life from ZeNEX, but you seem to forget that if he goes to another team, it'll be of his own accord, and it'll be his own decision. ZeNEX atm is a sinking ship; I like the team, but it's unlikely to provide as good support (financially, environmentally, etc.) than other Korean teams and some of the top foreigner teams. By all rights, it is probably better for Life's future career if he goes to another team. This might seem like it's very emotionless thinking to you, but if he leaves it'll be because he's offered a.) more money or b.) more opportunities than what he has on ZeNEX, and I wouldn't scruple with either him or the team he (hypothetically) goes to if he decides to leave ZeNEX. I understand him, its kind of frustrating seeing a team that has developed such talents, and everytime they get the possibilty to compete the other top teams, their players get bought by the bigger teams. It reminds me of Begrip/BLANK/Lions in cs 1.6. | ||
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Apom
France656 Posts
On February 06 2012 06:02 MrCon wrote: Life is so good And french stream production is mmazing, first time I'm not ashamed of watching a french stream, quite the contrary. + Show Spoiler [stupid joke] + ![[image loading]](http://www.whatshappening.co.uk/pictures/events/LG%20logo.jpg) Seriously though, I agree with the comment on stream production. I know this is not a live event and all, but that's probably the best production value I have seen outside of the "big live events" (MLG, Dreamhack, IPL obviously). | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On February 06 2012 06:18 Eee wrote: I understand him, its kind of frustrating seeing a team that has developed such talents, and everytime they get the possibilty to compete the other top teams, their players get bought by the bigger teams. It reminds me of Begrip/BLANK/Lions in cs 1.6. I know how frustrating it may be, but I just think it's immature to hate a team just because they bought out another player and to term it "stealing" (which implies that the player himself has no say in the matter, which is typically not the case). I mean, how is it in any way rational to hate a team for giving a player you support more opportunities in the future to make a name for himself? If anything, you should be thankful to the new team for supporting your player, glad for the player for having more support, and of course, sad for the old team for losing a talent. There really shouldn't be any "hatred" floating around. | ||
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