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On February 06 2012 06:15 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 05:58 dragonborn wrote:On February 06 2012 05:57 Vladoks wrote:
i'm impressed, i don't think i've seen a game of life before, but tonight he's shown just how awesome he is! definitly on my radar now he is playing against JYP in code A. i will be so sad if SlayerS or foreign team steal Life from ZeNEX ...
i will hate this team forever. That sounds remarkably childish ... You say you'll get mad if another team "steals" Life from ZeNEX, but you seem to forget that if he goes to another team, it'll be of his own accord, and it'll be his own decision. ZeNEX atm is a sinking ship; I like the team, but it's unlikely to provide as good support (financially, environmentally, etc.) than other Korean teams and some of the top foreigner teams. By all rights, it is probably better for Life's future career if he goes to another team. This might seem like it's very emotionless thinking to you, but if he leaves it'll be because he's offered a.) more money or b.) more opportunities than what he has on ZeNEX, and I wouldn't scruple with either him or the team he (hypothetically) goes to if he decides to leave ZeNEX.
or he will play for ZeNEX and win some championships for ZeNEX.
Then ZeNEX will get sponsorships and partnerships,right?
your logic is bad,ZeNEX is not player facility for rich teams.
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Awesome games, sweet to see another unknown but deserving Korean qualify!
Replay pack would be awesome too  !
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On February 06 2012 06:27 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 06:18 Eee wrote:On February 06 2012 06:15 babylon wrote:On February 06 2012 05:58 dragonborn wrote:On February 06 2012 05:57 Vladoks wrote:
i'm impressed, i don't think i've seen a game of life before, but tonight he's shown just how awesome he is! definitly on my radar now he is playing against JYP in code A. i will be so sad if SlayerS or foreign team steal Life from ZeNEX ...
i will hate this team forever. That sounds remarkably childish ... You say you'll get mad if another team "steals" Life from ZeNEX, but you seem to forget that if he goes to another team, it'll be of his own accord, and it'll be his own decision. ZeNEX atm is a sinking ship; I like the team, but it's unlikely to provide as good support (financially, environmentally, etc.) than other Korean teams and some of the top foreigner teams. By all rights, it is probably better for Life's future career if he goes to another team. This might seem like it's very emotionless thinking to you, but if he leaves it'll be because he's offered a.) more money or b.) more opportunities than what he has on ZeNEX, and I wouldn't scruple with either him or the team he (hypothetically) goes to if he decides to leave ZeNEX. I understand him, its kind of frustrating seeing a team that has developed such talents, and everytime they get the possibilty to compete the other top teams, their players get bought by the bigger teams. It reminds me of Begrip/BLANK/Lions in cs 1.6. I know how frustrating it may be, but I just think it's immature to hate a team just because they bought out another player and to term it "stealing" (which implies that the player himself has no say in the matter, which is typically not the case). I mean, how is it in any way rational to hate a team for giving a player you support more opportunities in the future to make a name for himself? If anything, you should be thankful to the new team for supporting your player, glad for the player for having more support, and of course, sad for the old team for losing a talent. There really shouldn't be any "hatred" floating around.
He wasn't probably that serious about the hating thing. But also that's how sports work, there's always one part that will hate the superior team that buys the inferior teams players, and the other part that will love that team for it. A good example of this would be Real Madrid in soccer.
I'd actually say EG's this team in sc2 they got tons of money and are known for buying of new talent from other teams (HuK in the same summer as his breakout, Puma at the same time as his breakout and JYP around the time of his breakout). EG get a lot of shit for being "this" kind of team (for example, the ranting about Hero being bought by EG after his DH win etc.), but they also get a lot of fans for being this "all-star" team.
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On February 06 2012 06:31 dragonborn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 06:15 babylon wrote:On February 06 2012 05:58 dragonborn wrote:On February 06 2012 05:57 Vladoks wrote:
i'm impressed, i don't think i've seen a game of life before, but tonight he's shown just how awesome he is! definitly on my radar now he is playing against JYP in code A. i will be so sad if SlayerS or foreign team steal Life from ZeNEX ...
i will hate this team forever. That sounds remarkably childish ... You say you'll get mad if another team "steals" Life from ZeNEX, but you seem to forget that if he goes to another team, it'll be of his own accord, and it'll be his own decision. ZeNEX atm is a sinking ship; I like the team, but it's unlikely to provide as good support (financially, environmentally, etc.) than other Korean teams and some of the top foreigner teams. By all rights, it is probably better for Life's future career if he goes to another team. This might seem like it's very emotionless thinking to you, but if he leaves it'll be because he's offered a.) more money or b.) more opportunities than what he has on ZeNEX, and I wouldn't scruple with either him or the team he (hypothetically) goes to if he decides to leave ZeNEX. or he will play for ZeNEX and win some championships for ZeNEX. Then ZeNEX will get sponsorships and partnerships,right? your logic is bad,ZeNEX is not player facility for rich teams.
You're not even addressing what I'm talking about, and I'm not even going to bother talking about your new hypotheticals that have nothing to do with your original post.
Originally, you said that in a hypothetical situation in which Life is picked up by another team, you'd hate that team forever. I said that hating on that hypothetical team that picks him up is irrational, because if you actually cared about Life, the player, you'd be happy about his decision, because it is his decision, and if he leaves, it would be because he sees something in that other team that is superior to his current team, most likely financial or player support. If that is so, then the other team would be offering Life more opportunities for his career, therefore you should, yes, be sad that Life left his old team, but you should simultaneously be happy that Life has joined another team that he deems superior in whichever, way, or form, and thankful to the new team for offering Life more opportunities. We saw this with HuK and EG; I preferred HuK on TL, but EG offered him "life-changing" amounts of money. In the end, who am I to hate on EG for bettering HuK's financial situation?
Of course, this is all besides the point if you're less a fan of the player and more a fan of the team (which is what I'm starting to pick up from your post), in which case, go on hatin'.
@ Eee: I understand the case if you're a fan of the team more than you're the fan of the player, but if you like the player more for his play-style/personality/what-not than the fact that he is on Team X, then the bitterness seems misplaced. If EG (god forbid) ever picked up Bomber (god forbid), then I'd be bummed out for ST (incidentally also my favorite team), but because I like to put players before teams, I'd be ... still bummed out, but I wouldn't be bitter about it.
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On February 06 2012 06:01 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 05:55 Rulker wrote:On February 06 2012 05:52 SupLilSon wrote:
ZeNex Life is playing how diamond Zergs have been playing forever now. Super fast Hive after the infestors and ballin out on Ultras and Broods. I never understood why this strategy didn't catch on with pros for so long. I guess people were just stuck on the bane/ling/muta comp. because 1) Harassment based play is strong 2) If hive is scouted ghosts are made. And ghosts, ghosts are good. The faster infestors deal with harassment a lot more efficiently than a moving ling/bling around the map as well as completely shut down any marine tank based timing. He scouted the hive as well but Ghosts are costly. Also, 1 misstep like in game 2, and your ghosts will be completely worthless.
Mutas are easier and faster to use in denying drops and harass though. Also going infestors generally mean slower third base. Besides at the end of the day, it's less about the style and more about the user that does subtle things that most people don't notice that separates him from diamonds.
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On February 06 2012 07:04 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 06:31 dragonborn wrote:On February 06 2012 06:15 babylon wrote:On February 06 2012 05:58 dragonborn wrote:On February 06 2012 05:57 Vladoks wrote:
i'm impressed, i don't think i've seen a game of life before, but tonight he's shown just how awesome he is! definitly on my radar now he is playing against JYP in code A. i will be so sad if SlayerS or foreign team steal Life from ZeNEX ...
i will hate this team forever. That sounds remarkably childish ... You say you'll get mad if another team "steals" Life from ZeNEX, but you seem to forget that if he goes to another team, it'll be of his own accord, and it'll be his own decision. ZeNEX atm is a sinking ship; I like the team, but it's unlikely to provide as good support (financially, environmentally, etc.) than other Korean teams and some of the top foreigner teams. By all rights, it is probably better for Life's future career if he goes to another team. This might seem like it's very emotionless thinking to you, but if he leaves it'll be because he's offered a.) more money or b.) more opportunities than what he has on ZeNEX, and I wouldn't scruple with either him or the team he (hypothetically) goes to if he decides to leave ZeNEX. or he will play for ZeNEX and win some championships for ZeNEX. Then ZeNEX will get sponsorships and partnerships,right? your logic is bad,ZeNEX is not player facility for rich teams. You're not even addressing what I'm talking about, and I'm not even going to bother talking about your new hypotheticals that have nothing to do with your original post. Originally, you said that in a hypothetical situation in which Life is picked up by another team, you'd hate that team forever. I said that hating on that hypothetical team that picks him up is irrational, because if you actually cared about Life, the player, you'd be happy about his decision, because it is his decision, and if he leaves, it would be because he sees something in that other team that is superior to his current team, most likely financial or player support. If that is so, then the other team would be offering Life more opportunities for his career, therefore you should, yes, be sad that Life left his old team, but you should simultaneously be happy that Life has joined another team that he deems superior in whichever, way, or form, and thankful to the new team for offering Life more opportunities. We saw this with HuK and EG; I preferred HuK on TL, but EG offered him "life-changing" amounts of money. In the end, who am I to hate on EG for bettering HuK's financial situation? Of course, this is all besides the point if you're less a fan of the player and more a fan of the team (which is what I'm starting to pick up from your post), in which case, go on hatin'.
im caring about ZeNEX and Life is part of ZeNEX.
Life is practicing in ZeNEX house for a year and some foreigner team come and steal him from ZeNEX? and not giving anything to ZeNEX because of he havent contract?
??????????
Like i said,ZeNEX need a time for finding more sponsorship in the future,and players like Life,Extreme is ZeNEX's future.Also a team calling as "fnatic" already poached DeParture from ZeNEX.
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On February 06 2012 07:30 dragonborn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2012 07:04 babylon wrote:On February 06 2012 06:31 dragonborn wrote:On February 06 2012 06:15 babylon wrote:On February 06 2012 05:58 dragonborn wrote:On February 06 2012 05:57 Vladoks wrote:
i'm impressed, i don't think i've seen a game of life before, but tonight he's shown just how awesome he is! definitly on my radar now he is playing against JYP in code A. i will be so sad if SlayerS or foreign team steal Life from ZeNEX ...
i will hate this team forever. That sounds remarkably childish ... You say you'll get mad if another team "steals" Life from ZeNEX, but you seem to forget that if he goes to another team, it'll be of his own accord, and it'll be his own decision. ZeNEX atm is a sinking ship; I like the team, but it's unlikely to provide as good support (financially, environmentally, etc.) than other Korean teams and some of the top foreigner teams. By all rights, it is probably better for Life's future career if he goes to another team. This might seem like it's very emotionless thinking to you, but if he leaves it'll be because he's offered a.) more money or b.) more opportunities than what he has on ZeNEX, and I wouldn't scruple with either him or the team he (hypothetically) goes to if he decides to leave ZeNEX. or he will play for ZeNEX and win some championships for ZeNEX. Then ZeNEX will get sponsorships and partnerships,right? your logic is bad,ZeNEX is not player facility for rich teams. You're not even addressing what I'm talking about, and I'm not even going to bother talking about your new hypotheticals that have nothing to do with your original post. Originally, you said that in a hypothetical situation in which Life is picked up by another team, you'd hate that team forever. I said that hating on that hypothetical team that picks him up is irrational, because if you actually cared about Life, the player, you'd be happy about his decision, because it is his decision, and if he leaves, it would be because he sees something in that other team that is superior to his current team, most likely financial or player support. If that is so, then the other team would be offering Life more opportunities for his career, therefore you should, yes, be sad that Life left his old team, but you should simultaneously be happy that Life has joined another team that he deems superior in whichever, way, or form, and thankful to the new team for offering Life more opportunities. We saw this with HuK and EG; I preferred HuK on TL, but EG offered him "life-changing" amounts of money. In the end, who am I to hate on EG for bettering HuK's financial situation? Of course, this is all besides the point if you're less a fan of the player and more a fan of the team (which is what I'm starting to pick up from your post), in which case, go on hatin'. im caring about ZeNEX and Life is part of ZeNEX. Life is practicing in ZeNEX house for a year and some foreigner team come and steal him from ZeNEX? and not giving anything to ZeNEX because of he havent contract? ?????????? Like i said,ZeNEX need a time for finding more sponsorship in the future,and players like Life,Extreme is ZeNEX's future. Also a team calling as "fnatic" already poached DeParture from ZeNEX.
Glad we cleared that up, then. You're a team fan, I'm a player fan. I like Life because he plays like a baller, not because he's on ZeNEX.
Anyways. gonna rest my case here. Apparently any type of player transfer is poaching nowadays. You don't even know the details of how Departure left to Fnatic. There was a press release from Fnatic, and that was it. No drama (as compared to, say, the CoCa and Taeja incidents).
But of course, it must be poaching! What a world, man. What a world.
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I was rooting for Keen since the beginning of the qualifier TT congrats to Life, though. Can't wait for the IronSquid itself it's gonna be awesome
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