Just tuned in, I'm assuming Jjaki is getting some ridiculously serious stream lag? I've never seen a korean pro play this bad, especially someone on jjaki's level. He hasn't microed anything the whole game.

It's like he has a 1 second delay on everything he does....

Severian

Australia2052 Posts

January 29 2012 04:58 GMT

#522

It's been a pretty consistent theme that top foreigners can compete with top Koreans in cross-server games, hasn't it? Whether that translates at all to success in offline games is up for debate, though.

Specialist

United States803 Posts

January 29 2012 04:58 GMT

#523

jjakji take rest of other games gogo!

Techno

1900 Posts

January 29 2012 05:00 GMT

#524

To say that Jijakji wasn't trying is silly. Lag may be a slight issue, but still. To deny that the better player won that game is to deny that a Zerg is ever a better player.

Zeborg

107 Posts

January 29 2012 05:15 GMT

#525

Nerchio is a beast.

FidoDido

United States1292 Posts

January 29 2012 05:20 GMT

#526

I'm sure lag was not a factor at all. Nerchio is just a GSL champion level player.

Kiarip

United States1835 Posts

January 29 2012 05:21 GMT

#527

Nerchio is really good, so why not?

DoubleDouble

United States106 Posts

January 29 2012 05:22 GMT

#528

dont flame me but its considerably easier to play in lag with zerg than terran in zvt (i play random). i play on kr and some days i get 1s delay and its unplayable given its only masters level. but i wonder how it would feel for a pro korean terran because they always make more marines than anything in their army due to their sheer confidence in micro with them. not saying nerchio didnt deserve it but, well meh he really didn't. play at lan or in the same region and we'll get the real results.

sleigh bells

United States358 Posts

January 29 2012 05:24 GMT

#529

do we have ANY cross-server tourneys hosted in korea? i'd like to see that

DaCruise

Denmark2457 Posts

January 29 2012 05:35 GMT

#530

Well it didnt really look like Jjakji had lag in that game.

Techno

1900 Posts

January 29 2012 05:37 GMT

#531

On January 29 2012 14:35 DaCruise wrote:
Well it didnt really look like Jjakji had lag in that game.

His marauder kiting was delicious, and if he hadn't been able to kite with that marauder, there is a solid chance that his other marauder could have been killed.

TheDougler

Canada8324 Posts

January 29 2012 05:41 GMT

#532

K guys I'm baffled. Liquipedia says they're on game 8, the stream is on game 4. What's going on? What's the score? Is it over?

ArtThouAngry

Canada146 Posts

January 29 2012 05:49 GMT

#533

On January 29 2012 14:41 TheDougler wrote:
K guys I'm baffled. Liquipedia says they're on game 8, the stream is on game 4. What's going on? What's the score? Is it over?

IT IS OVER
+ Show Spoiler +

Jjakji won 5-4

neoghaleon55

United States7435 Posts

January 29 2012 05:59 GMT

#534

Wow...
Nerchio is a lot better than everyone gives him credit for.

Jehct

New Zealand9115 Posts

January 29 2012 06:04 GMT

#535

What server is this played on? If it's on EU then I really feel bad for Jjakji. The impact of lag has definitely been noticable.

Techno

1900 Posts

January 29 2012 06:04 GMT

#536

Nerchio's victories here don't suprise me at all.
Jijakji is playing quite well but he keeps making a couple of mistakes that he simply cannot recover from. A few big fungals really won Nerchio that game.

Jijakji's macro really shined in that game. He lost something like 40+ scvs and 40+ marines for free due to some increddible fungal usage, and still had an econ and in fact a supply lead for a significant portion of the game.

It simply is not acceptable to not scan up ramps when playing vs infestor style.

I think Nerchio and Stephano are so successful because they are really good with infestors. Most Korean Zergs are really good at making banelings, and pretty bad at making tactical decisions (DRG not withstanding). These foreign zergs use Terran like tactics which force literally CONSTANT micro (splitting, scanning) from the Terran to combat.

Infestor's weakness has historically been drops and mass expanding. Drops are actually incredibly easy to defend with infestors if you plan for them, and mass expanding can be pretty weak to hive tech if your positioning/transitioning is not spot on. Even if you defend the Broodlords, if you dont kill the infestors the Ultralisk push can spell doom.
And then comes the nydus.

DMKraft

476 Posts

January 29 2012 06:06 GMT

#537

Well someone just spoiled something.

BreakfastBurrito

United States893 Posts

January 29 2012 06:07 GMT

#538

Nerchio is so underrated, so many people hating on him. you don't win 80 European cups for nothing... pretty sure people like Kas participate in those sometimes...
Plus he just beat mana last week, dudes. Whoever wins, Nerchio is a really good player who I think stands a decent chance of breaking out, especially if he was on a bigger team :/