EPTOn January 29 2012 14:20 FidoDido wrote:
I'm sure lag was not a factor at all. Nerchio is just a GSL champion level player.
I'm sure lag was not a factor at all. Nerchio is just a GSL champion level player.
no he's not.
[IPL] FC8: Nerchio vs Jjakji - Page 28
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jj33
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jj33
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On January 29 2012 15:04 Techno wrote: Nerchio's victories here don't suprise me at all. Jijakji is playing quite well but he keeps making a couple of mistakes that he simply cannot recover from. A few big fungals really won Nerchio that game. Jijakji's macro really shined in that game. He lost something like 40+ scvs and 40+ marines for free due to some increddible fungal usage, and still had an econ and in fact a supply lead for a significant portion of the game. It simply is not acceptable to not scan up ramps when playing vs infestor style. I think Nerchio and Stephano are so successful because they are really good with infestors. Most Korean Zergs are really good at making banelings, and pretty bad at making tactical decisions (DRG not withstanding). These foreign zergs use Terran like tactics which force literally CONSTANT micro (splitting, scanning) from the Terran to combat. Infestor's weakness has historically been drops and mass expanding. Drops are actually incredibly easy to defend with infestors if you plan for them, and mass expanding can be pretty weak to hive tech if your positioning/transitioning is not spot on. Even if you defend the Broodlords, if you dont kill the infestors the Ultralisk push can spell doom. And then comes the nydus. jjaki was doing is standard build like he would play in ladder. you can tell from how he played, he's known for ridiculous timing attacks. he didn't want to reveal too much in this series. He really didn't show his best, watch him in gsl and in this, it's clear he didn't go balls out. | ||
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Tanukki
Finland579 Posts
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
Ultralings is the worst composition in the world against marine tank! | ||
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Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
he outplayed jjakji in some of these games pretty hard. Nerchio is top 5-10 zerg in the world probably so... | ||
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
On January 29 2012 15:25 Kiarip wrote: he outplayed jjakji in some of these games pretty hard. Nerchio is top 5-10 zerg in the world probably so... I think it's a little early to be making statements like that. Sure, he looked good today but I've also seen him humiliated by players like Whitera fairly recently. | ||
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Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
On January 29 2012 15:28 Megabuster123 wrote: I think it's a little early to be making statements like that. Sure, he looked good today but I've also seen him humiliated by players like Whitera fairly recently. ??? Nerchio has been showing very good results consistently against some koreans too... he's been around for a pretty long time, top3 zerg in Europe. | ||
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
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Techno
1900 Posts
On January 29 2012 15:18 jj33 wrote: jjaki was doing is standard build like he would play in ladder. you can tell from how he played, he's known for ridiculous timing attacks. he didn't want to reveal too much in this series. He really didn't show his best, watch him in gsl and in this, it's clear he didn't go balls out. Whatever helps you sleep at night, bro but Jijakji is known for IMMVP esque macro games with a Slayers MMA tactical twist, not a theBestFoU clusterfuck. Jakji simply wasnt in the mindset to play a good TvZ in the first couple games, and no amount of skill can win you a TvZ when you do not force the zerg to choose what lives and what dies. | ||
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skyflyfish
Canada499 Posts
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
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Crazyeyes
Canada1342 Posts
GO Nerchio! :D Looks like it's really close. ^__^ Anyone care to summarize what I've missed so far? I will love you forever. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On January 29 2012 15:28 Kiarip wrote: ??? Nerchio has been showing very good results consistently against some koreans too... Nerchio is very good, but it would be best to wait before making such bold statements. There have been so many overhyped players since SC2 came out, and I hope it does not happen to nerchio as it makes it hard for the player to meet fan expectations. He has not yet won a major LAN with Koreans. I think top 5 foreign Zerg is a reasonable statement, but not top 10 zerg in the world. Remember: nestea drg leenock curious losira coca...plenty of great zergs out there. | ||
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SidianTheBard
United States2475 Posts
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On January 29 2012 15:28 Kiarip wrote: ??? Nerchio has been showing very good results consistently against some koreans too... he's been around for a pretty long time, top3 zerg in Europe. And what notable series victories does he have over top Koreans? . . . Exactly. He's a top foreigner, but calling him a top in the world is ridiculous and baseless | ||
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Techno
1900 Posts
That lair was a mistake, I knew hed lose this CBTS game right when I saw that lair go down. He is simply playing too greedy trying to take a fast third after investing in roaches early then dumping all his resources into tech way too fast. Roach Third Roach LIng BLing defense Then tech up. Someone needs to introduce nerchio to the baneling. | ||
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skyflyfish
Canada499 Posts
On January 29 2012 15:39 1Eris1 wrote: And what notable series victories does he have over top Koreans? . . . Exactly. He's a top foreigner, but calling him a top in the world is ridiculous and baseless i think he beat hero at homestory cup, but hero is not top player in gsl | ||
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Techno
1900 Posts
On January 29 2012 15:34 Hall0wed wrote: Jjakji couldn't risk showing good builds because he is in the GSL currently. Having a higher chance of success in the GSL is way more important than having a higher chance of success in a showmatch, sorry to say. Such flawed logic: 1) People in GSL scout. Some games they might as well have map hacks. 2) Not everyone plays like MC and theBest. The best Terrans in the world play standard. The best Zergs in the world play standard. Even in GSL. 3) He's already showed off 2 timing attacks: Single gas, 3 rax, 1 reactor, reactor medivac 2 marauder stim and 2 gas 3 rax 2 reactor, reactor port stim/combat. | ||
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Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
On January 29 2012 15:39 1Eris1 wrote: And what notable series victories does he have over top Koreans? . . . Exactly. He's a top foreigner, but calling him a top in the world is ridiculous and baseless what are the top korean zergs right now? nestea drg leenock and curious? ok all the other ones are no better than foreign top zergs... He's beaten hero and violet according to tlpd... top foreigner isn't that far from top korean | ||
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