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North American Star Team League
Week 1 Day 2
Date: Saturday, Jan 21 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
EU Rebroadcast: Saturday, Jan 21 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Format+ Show Spoiler +- Best of 5
-- 4 BO1 1v1s
-- If tied after all 4 games there is a BO3 Ace Match
- Players are picked before the match is started and picked based on the given map
- 7 Week Season
- Top 4 are seeded into Playoffs
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/teams/16.png) vs ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/teams/15.png)
Mouz (0-0) vs RoxKiS (0-0)
Match 1
Match 2
Match 3
Match 4
Ace Match (If Applicable)
Final Results
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Russian Federation138 Posts
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Mouz should win this pretty easily, but ZvZ and PvP are volatile, especially when in Bo1.
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Never thought i would see the day when RoxKiS didn't have even ONE Terran in their line-up  how things have changed since the BW days
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please post this in the TL calendar as well, I missed the match yesterday because it was up too late
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People underestimating LiveZergs zvz.
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On January 21 2012 06:34 KinQuh wrote:
People underestimating LiveZergs zvz.
Yup, he beat Idra at ESWC
Rox.Kis are always underrated. I think Mouz will win, but it won't be 3-0,
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I can see LiveZerg winning. Maybe Abver if Hasu has a bad day. Mouz should have this, looking forward to seeing the matches!
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I think Mouz 3-2
LiveZerg>BiGs
sLivko<ThorZaIN
fraer<MaNa
Abver>HasuObs
Ace:
ThorZaIN>LiveZerg
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Looks like a 3-0 to me. Also, I thought Titan played for roxkis? He might be empires new player.
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This is not really live isn't it?
more like "NASL live"?
cant imagine all those players staying up in EU until 3am, 4am even for the russians.
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Russian Federation949 Posts
Rox would actually win this if they had their A-team, but titan and Pomi were getting ready for IEM so couldnt play
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Xeris never answered my PM so:
![[image loading]](http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3086/mouzicon.png) ![[image loading]](http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/7029/vslogo.png)
EDIT: Going to make a VS Icon in a minute here, its way too small.
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LiveZerg>biGs
Slivko<ThorZaIN
fraer<Mana
Abver>HasuObs
RoX.KIS ace<Mouz ace
3-2 Mouz
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2 EU teams dishing it out in NA time... sigh I am a big fan of mouz, and even bigger of Thorzain, but 4am starting time is a bit too much for me.
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On January 21 2012 07:45 VirgilSC2 wrote:Xeris never answered my PM so: EDIT: Going to make a VS Icon in a minute here, its way too small.
GJ!
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Hm mouz should have this easy judging from names. But it's still bo1 and everything could happen, those RoxKis players are not to be underestimated.
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Interesting, this could be closer than you might expect, RoxKiS got pretty good draws, the first two games are winnable for either side, PvP is volatile, though Mana is highly favored and the last game could be close, too, because HasuObs is pretty weak against Zerg.
If Pomi and Titan had been able to play instead of traveling to WCG, I would even have thought RoxKiS to be slightly favored.
MorroW being in Korea really hurts mousesports, since their lineup is not deep at all.
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will tell my guy to update that =D
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I think today we find out that fraer is a great player, for a while he was at 90% on EU
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Well, Rox.Kis is really missing Pomi & Titan here.
Rox might take one game imo, but mouz will take it 3-0 or 3-1
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Mana should take his. Never heard of frear.
Then HasuObs and Thorzain are favored, so is LiveZerg.
3-1 mouz.
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On January 21 2012 09:05 lykkekage wrote:
Well, Rox.Kis is really missing Pomi & Titan here.
Rox might take one game imo, but mouz will take it 3-0 or 3-1
I think Slivko can take down Thorzain if he plays as solidly as he can do, I'm hoping that RoX can pull off a 3-1/3-2 :D
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LiveZerg<biGs
Slivko>ThorZaIN
fraer>Mana
Abver<HasuObs
RoX.KIS ace (slivko)<Mouz ace (thorzain)
3-2 mouz, but very close to call indeed for ALL of the matches.
Should be good fun!
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Mouse. Fucking. Sports. I cannot wait to see Thorzain play.
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will livezerg down, its gonna be hard for Rox
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On January 21 2012 07:51 AysiktiriX wrote:
2 EU teams dishing it out in NA time... sigh I am a big fan of mouz, and even bigger of Thorzain, but 4am starting time is a bit too much for me.
They are still doing the EU rebroadcasts, aren't they?
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mouz prevails, could have been close, but it wasn't, props to the players!
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On January 21 2012 11:56 Icekommander wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 07:51 AysiktiriX wrote:
2 EU teams dishing it out in NA time... sigh I am a big fan of mouz, and even bigger of Thorzain, but 4am starting time is a bit too much for me. They are still doing the EU rebroadcasts, aren't they?
Yeah, they are.
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On January 21 2012 08:56 StarVe wrote:
Interesting, this could be closer than you might expect, RoxKiS got pretty good draws, the first two games are winnable for either side, PvP is volatile, though Mana is highly favored and the last game could be close, too, because HasuObs is pretty weak against Zerg.
If Pomi and Titan had been able to play instead of traveling to WCG, I would even have thought RoxKiS to be slightly favored.
MorroW being in Korea really hurts mousesports, since their lineup is not deep at all.
From what I saw of biGs in other teamleagues, his ZvT is ridiculously good (which is supported by his stats) and his other match-ups were pretty good too. LiveZerg is good, but I think that he's about the same level as biGs and certainly is not better. That being said, ZvZ is a match-up that anybody can win (assuming that one person isn't using the tag NesTea) so that could have gone either way.
ThorZaIN's TvZ is way better than sLivKo's ZvT is. sLivKo all-killed LighT in the prelims, but Kawaii and binski really aren't nearly at the level that ThorZaIN is at, especially since ThorZaIN plays a different style that I think most Zergs are not as comfortable against. Out of all the match-ups, I think that this is the most one-sided.
PvP on Tal'Darim Altar generally comes down to who is the better player/who goes for a non-4 Gate build. MaNa is the better player.
Hasu's PvZ really only appears weak because his PvT is possibly the best in Europe and his PvP is really solid. Other than maybe ThorZaIN, Hasu might be the most balanced in his skill level in all three match-ups (MorroW's TvZ isn't his best, mainly relying on his understanding of the match-up, MaNa's vZ has improved but still isn't the best, biGs certainly has to work on his other match-ups).
That being said, I think that Mouz, while they have a fairly small line-up, they have one of the deepest line-ups, especially with biGs really improving. They have two Terrans who I've never actually see play, but their five main players are five of the best players in the world. Even without MorroW, they're so good that I really do not think that they will struggle much at all. Overall, I think that Mouz's best match-up is vT (ThorZaIN, MaNa, Hasu, biGs), so the only reason why Rox.Kis would be considered "favored" against them is that Mouz is not going to get to play their best match-up.
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And the score went as i predicted :D
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sLivko is not favored against ThorZaIN. He has a 55% win rate--which is solid regardless--but the first page of his recent TvZ's is primarily players like Stephano, SEn, Ret, etc. (in other words the best foreigners). sLivko isn't even pulling a 50% W/L ratio in that match-up, and his last 40 games don't have nearly the same line-up. Granted he's played some really tough opponents (Kas, Brat_OK, Artist,etc.) but a lot of the games on there are just simply not at the same skill level of other players.
At the end of the day, sLivko is a good player who has been doing well in online/smaller tournaments, whereas ThorZaIN is a contender who has consistently provided excellent games in major tournaments against the best players in the world. sLivko all-killed LighT in the qualifiers for NASTL, ThorZaIN all-killed QIM in the finals of IPLTAC.
To be brutally honest, even though vT is ThorZaIN's self-proclaimed "best" match-up, I don't know that there is anybody on RoX.Kis who you could really "favor" over him other than maybe TitaN, and even then, when ThorZaIN's TvP is at it's best he could beat even the best Protoss players in the world.
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Well Played, mouz. Mouz is like the best foreigner team in team leagues, lol.
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ThorZaIN > sLivko is quite an upset considering recent form from both of them imo.
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People really thought rox had a chance considering Mousesports form in team leagues? Interesting.
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On January 21 2012 11:56 Icekommander wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 07:51 AysiktiriX wrote:
2 EU teams dishing it out in NA time... sigh I am a big fan of mouz, and even bigger of Thorzain, but 4am starting time is a bit too much for me. They are still doing the EU rebroadcasts, aren't they?
I think he was trying to point out that the time is horrible for the players its in the middle in night in Europe and both teams are European.
And I'm pretty sure NASL don't do replays.
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On January 21 2012 06:28 fAiryqt wrote:
3-0 mouz
Gratz! 
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On January 21 2012 19:59 Ruscour wrote:
ThorZaIN > sLivko is quite an upset considering recent form from both of them imo.
Do you really think that ThorZaINs from is so bad that he is not the favorite against sLivko?
Gratz to mouz for the 3-0, a good start into this tournament
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who arranged a PvP on taldarim?
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Gratz to Mouz. Gogo Thorzain!
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On January 21 2012 20:31 Eee wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 11:56 Icekommander wrote:On January 21 2012 07:51 AysiktiriX wrote:
2 EU teams dishing it out in NA time... sigh I am a big fan of mouz, and even bigger of Thorzain, but 4am starting time is a bit too much for me. They are still doing the EU rebroadcasts, aren't they? I think he was trying to point out that the time is horrible for the players its in the middle in night in Europe and both teams are European. And I'm pretty sure NASL don't do replays.
They do rebroadcasts:
EU Rebroadcast: January 27th (7:00pm CET)
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On January 22 2012 00:25 Roberi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 20:31 Eee wrote:On January 21 2012 11:56 Icekommander wrote:On January 21 2012 07:51 AysiktiriX wrote:
2 EU teams dishing it out in NA time... sigh I am a big fan of mouz, and even bigger of Thorzain, but 4am starting time is a bit too much for me. They are still doing the EU rebroadcasts, aren't they? I think he was trying to point out that the time is horrible for the players its in the middle in night in Europe and both teams are European. And I'm pretty sure NASL don't do replays. They do rebroadcasts: EU Rebroadcast: January 27th (7:00pm CET)
These are replay casts of games that were played on Monday/Tuesday. I hope that clears up the confusion. Also, if both teams are on the same server they can elect to play on their native server if they wish to.
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biGs < Antiga Shipyard > ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/flags/ru.png)
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ThorZaIN < TPW Odyssey > ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/flags/pl.png)
MaNa < Tal'Darim Altar > ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/flags/ua.png)
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