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deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
January 18 2012 10:12 GMT
#641
On January 18 2012 19:09 MasterKang wrote:
Btw Brown would have destroyed almost any other terran. He definitely has the talent to get to round of 4 or even finals



Hyperbole? Giving Brown way to much credit for the games shown. We've only seen him in action CodeS for 3 games, and you already claim that? I'm sorry, but without the proof/history to back up that statement, i had to chuckle. His "talent" as you so put it is at this point only your opinion, and it is of your opinion he's Round of 4 talent.
BulletByBullet
Profile Joined January 2012
18 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 10:12:35
January 18 2012 10:12 GMT
#642
Holy shit, GSL improved so much since I've watched it last time. Overlays and improved free quality so good
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
January 18 2012 10:12 GMT
#643
C'mon MKP, play standard and don't make moronic decisions and you got this!
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
January 18 2012 10:12 GMT
#644
On January 18 2012 19:04 mvtaylor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 19:02 Ketch wrote:
Why gg? Was the game totally lost?


Nexus in main dead

Nexus at natural about to die to army

Buildings in main about to die to drop

Army only large enough to save natural nexus or buildings in main

gg


Yeah, but his main nexus was almost up again, anyway, he botched the game anyway :/
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
January 18 2012 10:12 GMT
#645
I spent the whole match thinking about how aLive was going to beat Brown and when he did I was really happy that I predicted right. But then I looked at my liquibet and I chose Brown (((
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
January 18 2012 10:12 GMT
#646
On January 18 2012 19:10 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 19:08 Fionn wrote:
On January 18 2012 19:04 twndomn wrote:
lesson:
1. Crossfire PvT, Protoss should just GG, free win for Terran on this map, awesome design.
2. Insane Micro and FF will not save the Protoss
3. Terran 1-base all in = win


Seriously?

The map did not matter. The match-up didn't matter. Brown WON THAT GAME. He won. He had two bases and was about to get into higher tech with an extra base against an all-inning Terran who just lost half his army. Brown, for whatever reason, took his army and left his bases wide open to check on Alive's base for some reason.

It's like LegalMind took over Brown's body.


Okay, just to clear up confusion in this thread: Brown thought it was probably a 1-1-1 or some similar all in. In this scenario, as a Protoss you have to have your army near their base, control both watchtowers, and chip away/slow down their army with FFs and forcing them to siege/whatever you can do to buy time to get Collosi out. Brown was doing everything right. His army was supposed to be out there. He just didn't have a Pylon on the right side(most protoss do this) and/or an observer to scout for drops.


He saw Marauders guess what in most cases it is not when the Terran builds Marauders , a 1-1-1 . And when he does as a followup to a 2 Rax he had to do damage before the 1-1-1 would've hit or the 1-1-1 woudln't be that strong. There was no reason to move that far away from his base with his whole army.
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
January 18 2012 10:13 GMT
#647
My heart says MKP but my head says happy
aka ilovesharkpeople
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 18 2012 10:13 GMT
#648
It's the MVP Marauder Rush.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
January 18 2012 10:13 GMT
#649
On January 18 2012 19:08 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 19:04 twndomn wrote:
lesson:
1. Crossfire PvT, Protoss should just GG, free win for Terran on this map, awesome design.
2. Insane Micro and FF will not save the Protoss
3. Terran 1-base all in = win


Seriously?

The map did not matter. The match-up didn't matter. Brown WON THAT GAME. He won. He had two bases and was about to get into higher tech with an extra base against an all-inning Terran who just lost half his army. Brown, for whatever reason, took his army and left his bases wide open to check on Alive's base for some reason.

It's like LegalMind took over Brown's body.


I feel like balance whine blinds people to actually watching the game and seeing what happened. Like you and several others have said it should have been an easy win.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 18 2012 10:13 GMT
#650
Game One on antiga shipyard

In the bottom left is Happy

While in the top right is MKP
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
January 18 2012 10:13 GMT
#651
On January 18 2012 19:13 Haydin wrote:
My heart says MKP but my head says happy

Same here but heart > head! GO MKP!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 18 2012 10:13 GMT
#652
On January 18 2012 19:13 Drazerk wrote:
Game One on antiga shipyard

In the bottom left is Happy

While in the top right is MKP


2:10


Gas and a proxy rax for happy

one rax for mkp
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
January 18 2012 10:13 GMT
#653
On January 18 2012 19:10 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 19:08 Fionn wrote:
On January 18 2012 19:04 twndomn wrote:
lesson:
1. Crossfire PvT, Protoss should just GG, free win for Terran on this map, awesome design.
2. Insane Micro and FF will not save the Protoss
3. Terran 1-base all in = win


Seriously?

The map did not matter. The match-up didn't matter. Brown WON THAT GAME. He won. He had two bases and was about to get into higher tech with an extra base against an all-inning Terran who just lost half his army. Brown, for whatever reason, took his army and left his bases wide open to check on Alive's base for some reason.

It's like LegalMind took over Brown's body.


Okay, just to clear up confusion in this thread: Brown thought it was probably a 1-1-1 or some similar all in. In this scenario, as a Protoss you have to have your army near their base, control both watchtowers, and chip away/slow down their army with FFs and forcing them to siege/whatever you can do to buy time to get Collosi out. Brown was doing everything right. His army was supposed to be out there. He just didn't have a Pylon on the right side(most protoss do this) and/or an observer to scout for drops.

He obs-scouted the base. He saw both marines and marauders, 2-barracks and no tanks. No way that is a 1-1-1. If he thought a 1-1-1 was coming, he deserved to lose.
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 10:14:48
January 18 2012 10:14 GMT
#654
On January 18 2012 19:10 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 19:08 Fionn wrote:
On January 18 2012 19:04 twndomn wrote:
lesson:
1. Crossfire PvT, Protoss should just GG, free win for Terran on this map, awesome design.
2. Insane Micro and FF will not save the Protoss
3. Terran 1-base all in = win


Seriously?

The map did not matter. The match-up didn't matter. Brown WON THAT GAME. He won. He had two bases and was about to get into higher tech with an extra base against an all-inning Terran who just lost half his army. Brown, for whatever reason, took his army and left his bases wide open to check on Alive's base for some reason.

It's like LegalMind took over Brown's body.


Okay, just to clear up confusion in this thread: Brown thought it was probably a 1-1-1 or some similar all in. In this scenario, as a Protoss you have to have your army near their base, control both watchtowers, and chip away/slow down their army with FFs and forcing them to siege/whatever you can do to buy time to get Collosi out. Brown was doing everything right. His army was supposed to be out there. He just didn't have a Pylon on the right side(most protoss do this) and/or an observer to scout for drops.


Doesn't the fact that he saw marauders in alive's army make it quite clear that it wasn't a 1/1/1 or marine tank?

As such, he should have stayed at home, and reactively moved to pick units off if he'd seen a marine tank or whatever coming as a follow up, after sending a probe or a zealot to scout the front/hold the towers.

Edit; oh yeah, he had an obs too.

It was just atrocious decision making.
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
January 18 2012 10:14 GMT
#655
lol happy yes!!!!!!
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
January 18 2012 10:14 GMT
#656
On January 18 2012 19:12 s3rp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 19:10 Kiyo. wrote:
On January 18 2012 19:08 Fionn wrote:
On January 18 2012 19:04 twndomn wrote:
lesson:
1. Crossfire PvT, Protoss should just GG, free win for Terran on this map, awesome design.
2. Insane Micro and FF will not save the Protoss
3. Terran 1-base all in = win


Seriously?

The map did not matter. The match-up didn't matter. Brown WON THAT GAME. He won. He had two bases and was about to get into higher tech with an extra base against an all-inning Terran who just lost half his army. Brown, for whatever reason, took his army and left his bases wide open to check on Alive's base for some reason.

It's like LegalMind took over Brown's body.


Okay, just to clear up confusion in this thread: Brown thought it was probably a 1-1-1 or some similar all in. In this scenario, as a Protoss you have to have your army near their base, control both watchtowers, and chip away/slow down their army with FFs and forcing them to siege/whatever you can do to buy time to get Collosi out. Brown was doing everything right. His army was supposed to be out there. He just didn't have a Pylon on the right side(most protoss do this) and/or an observer to scout for drops.


He saw Marauders guess what in most cases it is not when the Terran builds Marauders , a 1-1-1 . And when he does as a followup to a 2 Rax he had to do damage before the 1-1-1 would've hit or the 1-1-1 woudln't be that strong. There was no reason to move that far away from his base with his whole army.


That's why I said "or some similar all in" which it was. You still have to slow down the army with FFs to buy time for your collosi to get out and for you to gain your economic advantage.
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 10:14:39
January 18 2012 10:14 GMT
#657
On January 18 2012 19:12 BulletByBullet wrote:
Holy shit, GSL improved so much since I've watched it last time. Overlays and improved free quality so good


Wait what? The free stream improved in quality? Since when....


edit: just checked it hasn't it's still terrible.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
January 18 2012 10:14 GMT
#658
Add a bunker please!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
January 18 2012 10:14 GMT
#659
On January 18 2012 19:10 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 19:08 Fionn wrote:
On January 18 2012 19:04 twndomn wrote:
lesson:
1. Crossfire PvT, Protoss should just GG, free win for Terran on this map, awesome design.
2. Insane Micro and FF will not save the Protoss
3. Terran 1-base all in = win


Seriously?

The map did not matter. The match-up didn't matter. Brown WON THAT GAME. He won. He had two bases and was about to get into higher tech with an extra base against an all-inning Terran who just lost half his army. Brown, for whatever reason, took his army and left his bases wide open to check on Alive's base for some reason.

It's like LegalMind took over Brown's body.


Okay, just to clear up confusion in this thread: Brown thought it was probably a 1-1-1 or some similar all in. In this scenario, as a Protoss you have to have your army near their base, control both watchtowers, and chip away/slow down their army with FFs and forcing them to siege/whatever you can do to buy time to get Collosi out. Brown was doing everything right. His army was supposed to be out there. He just didn't have a Pylon on the right side(most protoss do this) and/or an observer to scout for drops.


Wut, he knew it was a 2rax opener. The most common follow ups are either an expand into medivacs or the one base medivac all in that aLive was doing. Hell he had an observer out to scout everything after that point anyway. Cataclysmic failure on his part not to do so.
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
January 18 2012 10:14 GMT
#660
On January 18 2012 19:13 gogatorsfoster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 19:08 Fionn wrote:
On January 18 2012 19:04 twndomn wrote:
lesson:
1. Crossfire PvT, Protoss should just GG, free win for Terran on this map, awesome design.
2. Insane Micro and FF will not save the Protoss
3. Terran 1-base all in = win


Seriously?

The map did not matter. The match-up didn't matter. Brown WON THAT GAME. He won. He had two bases and was about to get into higher tech with an extra base against an all-inning Terran who just lost half his army. Brown, for whatever reason, took his army and left his bases wide open to check on Alive's base for some reason.

It's like LegalMind took over Brown's body.


I feel like balance whine blinds people to actually watching the game and seeing what happened. Like you and several others have said it should have been an easy win.


I'd blame it on nerves. He knew he was ahead, could be about to win his first code S series, and got ahead of himself without thinking.
aka ilovesharkpeople
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