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On January 18 2012 19:14 BulletByBullet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 19:14 deadmau wrote:On January 18 2012 19:12 BulletByBullet wrote:
Holy shit, GSL improved so much since I've watched it last time. Overlays and improved free quality so good Wait what? The free stream improved in quality? Since when.... Last time I watched there were literally squares instead of units...
I must be ignorant, still looks atrocious for me, but I was too cheap to pay, so I can't whine much.
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On January 18 2012 19:13 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 19:13 Drazerk wrote:Game One on antiga shipyard In the bottom left is  Happy While in the top right is MKP
2:10Gas and a proxy rax for happy one rax for mkp
4:00MKP goes two gas and an expansion after scouting happy's orbital with no barracks around
5:00Reaper and factory for Happy Factory for MKP Rush is held off
7:00
Happys attacks have all been held off Both players now taking their expansions
9:00
Siege tech for happy getting more barracks
MKP takes the watch tower
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On January 18 2012 19:17 Lord_J wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 19:16 Kiyo. wrote:On January 18 2012 19:14 Asha` wrote:On January 18 2012 19:10 Kiyo. wrote:On January 18 2012 19:08 Fionn wrote:On January 18 2012 19:04 twndomn wrote:
lesson:
1. Crossfire PvT, Protoss should just GG, free win for Terran on this map, awesome design.
2. Insane Micro and FF will not save the Protoss
3. Terran 1-base all in = win Seriously? The map did not matter. The match-up didn't matter. Brown WON THAT GAME. He won. He had two bases and was about to get into higher tech with an extra base against an all-inning Terran who just lost half his army. Brown, for whatever reason, took his army and left his bases wide open to check on Alive's base for some reason. It's like LegalMind took over Brown's body. Okay, just to clear up confusion in this thread: Brown thought it was probably a 1-1-1 or some similar all in. In this scenario, as a Protoss you have to have your army near their base, control both watchtowers, and chip away/slow down their army with FFs and forcing them to siege/whatever you can do to buy time to get Collosi out. Brown was doing everything right. His army was supposed to be out there. He just didn't have a Pylon on the right side(most protoss do this) and/or an observer to scout for drops. Wut, he knew it was a 2rax opener. The most common follow ups are either an expand into medivacs or the one base medivac all in that aLive was doing. Hell he had an observer out to scout everything after that point anyway. Cataclysmic failure on his part not to do so. You're all missing my "or some similar all in". Like I said, he still needs to slow down aLive's push until he can get his collosi out. You do that by using FFs and having your army up ahead a bit. But he didn't have a scout for drops(either pylon or observer). His army position was right, he just didn't have proper map control. Brown's observer saw the starport with the reactor.
Yes, which is why he should have had a Pylon or observer watching for drops.
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Saw the Brown match with a friend.
Feel vindicated about my general feelings about sotg. Alive did nothing at all to match Wax's hype thread. Brown for his part looked very promising and quite good...
but no one will ever know what caused that fishing expedition =.=. He looks promising and it isn't unreasonable that he doesnt advance in Code S this season. That said Alive has a lot to prove. I would be more content if it was player like SC making up the distribution rather than Alive.
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Why not steal the techlab? 
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On January 18 2012 19:18 Kiyo. wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 19:17 Lord_J wrote:On January 18 2012 19:16 Kiyo. wrote:On January 18 2012 19:14 Asha` wrote:On January 18 2012 19:10 Kiyo. wrote:On January 18 2012 19:08 Fionn wrote:On January 18 2012 19:04 twndomn wrote:
lesson:
1. Crossfire PvT, Protoss should just GG, free win for Terran on this map, awesome design.
2. Insane Micro and FF will not save the Protoss
3. Terran 1-base all in = win Seriously? The map did not matter. The match-up didn't matter. Brown WON THAT GAME. He won. He had two bases and was about to get into higher tech with an extra base against an all-inning Terran who just lost half his army. Brown, for whatever reason, took his army and left his bases wide open to check on Alive's base for some reason. It's like LegalMind took over Brown's body. Okay, just to clear up confusion in this thread: Brown thought it was probably a 1-1-1 or some similar all in. In this scenario, as a Protoss you have to have your army near their base, control both watchtowers, and chip away/slow down their army with FFs and forcing them to siege/whatever you can do to buy time to get Collosi out. Brown was doing everything right. His army was supposed to be out there. He just didn't have a Pylon on the right side(most protoss do this) and/or an observer to scout for drops. Wut, he knew it was a 2rax opener. The most common follow ups are either an expand into medivacs or the one base medivac all in that aLive was doing. Hell he had an observer out to scout everything after that point anyway. Cataclysmic failure on his part not to do so. You're all missing my "or some similar all in". Like I said, he still needs to slow down aLive's push until he can get his collosi out. You do that by using FFs and having your army up ahead a bit. But he didn't have a scout for drops(either pylon or observer). His army position was right, he just didn't have proper map control. Brown's observer saw the starport with the reactor. Yes, which is why he should have had a Pylon or observer watching for drops.
He didn't need them. Drops were aLive's only option at that point.
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MKP should have stolen that tech lab... 
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On January 18 2012 19:13 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 19:13 Drazerk wrote:Game One on antiga shipyard In the bottom left is Happy While in the top right is MKP
2:10Gas and a proxy rax for happy one rax for mkp
4:00MKP goes two gas and an expansion after scouting happy's orbital with no barracks around
5:00Reaper and factory for Happy Factory for MKP Rush is held off
7:00
Happys attacks have all been held off Both players now taking their expansions
9:00Siege tech for happy getting more barracks MKP takes the watch tower
10:00
MKP kills the tech lab in his base because he can't think to steal it with his own production buildings >.<
MKP also attacked happy killing units / scvs
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wouldve been hilarious if MKP stole the addon instead of destroying it
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Why would you kill the techlab?
It would've been free 50/25
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On January 18 2012 19:16 Kiyo. wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 19:14 Asha` wrote:On January 18 2012 19:10 Kiyo. wrote:On January 18 2012 19:08 Fionn wrote:On January 18 2012 19:04 twndomn wrote:
lesson:
1. Crossfire PvT, Protoss should just GG, free win for Terran on this map, awesome design.
2. Insane Micro and FF will not save the Protoss
3. Terran 1-base all in = win Seriously? The map did not matter. The match-up didn't matter. Brown WON THAT GAME. He won. He had two bases and was about to get into higher tech with an extra base against an all-inning Terran who just lost half his army. Brown, for whatever reason, took his army and left his bases wide open to check on Alive's base for some reason. It's like LegalMind took over Brown's body. Okay, just to clear up confusion in this thread: Brown thought it was probably a 1-1-1 or some similar all in. In this scenario, as a Protoss you have to have your army near their base, control both watchtowers, and chip away/slow down their army with FFs and forcing them to siege/whatever you can do to buy time to get Collosi out. Brown was doing everything right. His army was supposed to be out there. He just didn't have a Pylon on the right side(most protoss do this) and/or an observer to scout for drops. Wut, he knew it was a 2rax opener. The most common follow ups are either an expand into medivacs or the one base medivac all in that aLive was doing. Hell he had an observer out to scout everything after that point anyway. Cataclysmic failure on his part not to do so. You're all missing my "or some similar all in". Like I said, he still needs to slow down aLive's push until he can get his collosi out. You do that by using FFs and having your army up ahead a bit. But he didn't have a scout for drops(either pylon or observer). His army position was right, he just didn't have proper map control. Just admit the failure, it's getting sad at this point, the guy even scouted alive's base.
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On January 18 2012 19:18 Kiyo. wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 19:17 Lord_J wrote:On January 18 2012 19:16 Kiyo. wrote:On January 18 2012 19:14 Asha` wrote:On January 18 2012 19:10 Kiyo. wrote:On January 18 2012 19:08 Fionn wrote:On January 18 2012 19:04 twndomn wrote:
lesson:
1. Crossfire PvT, Protoss should just GG, free win for Terran on this map, awesome design.
2. Insane Micro and FF will not save the Protoss
3. Terran 1-base all in = win Seriously? The map did not matter. The match-up didn't matter. Brown WON THAT GAME. He won. He had two bases and was about to get into higher tech with an extra base against an all-inning Terran who just lost half his army. Brown, for whatever reason, took his army and left his bases wide open to check on Alive's base for some reason. It's like LegalMind took over Brown's body. Okay, just to clear up confusion in this thread: Brown thought it was probably a 1-1-1 or some similar all in. In this scenario, as a Protoss you have to have your army near their base, control both watchtowers, and chip away/slow down their army with FFs and forcing them to siege/whatever you can do to buy time to get Collosi out. Brown was doing everything right. His army was supposed to be out there. He just didn't have a Pylon on the right side(most protoss do this) and/or an observer to scout for drops. Wut, he knew it was a 2rax opener. The most common follow ups are either an expand into medivacs or the one base medivac all in that aLive was doing. Hell he had an observer out to scout everything after that point anyway. Cataclysmic failure on his part not to do so. You're all missing my "or some similar all in". Like I said, he still needs to slow down aLive's push until he can get his collosi out. You do that by using FFs and having your army up ahead a bit. But he didn't have a scout for drops(either pylon or observer). His army position was right, he just didn't have proper map control. Brown's observer saw the starport with the reactor. Yes, which is why he should have had a Pylon or observer watching for drops.
No, that's why he shouldn't have been out on the map =/
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Good TvT so far, pretty constant action. MKP overcommitting with the early elevator though.
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On January 18 2012 19:13 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 19:13 Drazerk wrote:Game One on antiga shipyard In the bottom left is Happy While in the top right is MKP
2:10Gas and a proxy rax for happy one rax for mkp
4:00MKP goes two gas and an expansion after scouting happy's orbital with no barracks around
5:00Reaper and factory for Happy Factory for MKP Rush is held off
7:00
Happys attacks have all been held off Both players now taking their expansions
9:00Siege tech for happy getting more barracks MKP takes the watch tower
10:00MKP kills the tech lab in his base because he can't think to steal it with his own production buildings >.< MKP also attacked happy killing units / scvs
11:00
MKP loses a tank drop
MKP getting more barracks
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On January 18 2012 19:19 Maitolasi wrote:
Why would you kill the techlab?
It would've been free 50/25
I don't think many people barring TLO knows you can steal addons 
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On January 18 2012 19:19 Maitolasi wrote:
Why would you kill the techlab?
It would've been free 50/25
Oh wow, I forgot you could steal them.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37107 Posts
meh.... MKP disappointing play so far :/
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happy kind of needs a third soon ;/
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Oh god, took Nyquil too earily, can't hang on to watch MKP =(
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On January 18 2012 19:13 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 19:13 Drazerk wrote:Game One on antiga shipyard In the bottom left is Happy While in the top right is MKP
2:10Gas and a proxy rax for happy one rax for mkp
4:00MKP goes two gas and an expansion after scouting happy's orbital with no barracks around
5:00Reaper and factory for Happy Factory for MKP Rush is held off
7:00
Happys attacks have all been held off Both players now taking their expansions
9:00Siege tech for happy getting more barracks MKP takes the watch tower
10:00MKP kills the tech lab in his base because he can't think to steal it with his own production buildings >.< MKP also attacked happy killing units / scvs
11:00MKP loses a tank drop MKP getting more barracks
13:30
factories and +1 bio for both players
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Do you still have vision when someone steals your addon?
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EPT
