EPTGenius made it yesterday 2-0 DRG and 2-0 Sc and MC also made it, those are the two that I can remember cause I follow them lol.
[GSL] 2012 Jan Code S RO32 D7 - Page 31
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mcmartini
Australia1972 Posts
Genius made it yesterday 2-0 DRG and 2-0 Sc and MC also made it, those are the two that I can remember cause I follow them lol. | ||
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Raambo11
United States828 Posts
On January 18 2012 19:03 -y0shi- wrote: How the hell can you even attack in tvp? If you move out you die.. Man this is depressing  If you move out vs someone 1 basing that hard what do you expect. Tasteless was spot on over artosis's brown bias, when you scout someone 1 basing and you've expanded, your supposed to do everything to stay alive because once you do you win. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38256 Posts
On January 18 2012 19:04 willz22912 wrote: MC, Genius are through for sure. Not sure about others. MC, Genius, and Oz are through so far. 3 of the 5 toss to play so far. Even if Brown is a failure today Toss will still be holding a 50% advance rate with the possibility of 2 more through tomorrow (or 0 for 2 if Keen and Nada have their way lol) | ||
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deadmau
960 Posts
On January 18 2012 19:03 Olinimm wrote: Well correct me if im wrong but I never see top protosses doing 1 base colossus vs 1/1/1. MC always does 1 gate expo and makes immortals etc. And I do think he knows more about PvT than artosis. Not saying MC's way doesn't work, cause I play his way and can get it to work against many terran openers. However to talk about what Artosis said, 1 base colossus vs 1-1-1 i don't think so buddy. But, 2 gate robo is hard counter vs 2 rax, if you know 100% it's gonna be 2 rax, 2 gate robo smashes it, not even close. On January 18 2012 19:05 Asha` wrote: MC, Genius, and Oz are through so far. 3 of the 5 toss to play so far. Even if Brown is a failure today Toss will still be holding a 50% advance rate with the possibility of 2 more through tomorrow (or 0 for 2 if Keen and Nada have their way lol) Definitely one of the best % I've seen in awhile if my memory serves me correct, glad Protoss isn't a flailing fish anymore. Not exactly Protoss bursting out on the scene, but 2011 was pretty laughable. | ||
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Reggae-Troll
Finland241 Posts
On January 18 2012 19:04 twndomn wrote: lesson: 1. Crossfire PvT, Protoss should just GG, free win for Terran on this map, awesome design. 2. Insane Micro and FF will not save the Protoss 3. Terran 1-base all in = win This is just so wrong on every front. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37032 Posts
angry/raging Seeker does not want to get banned. Therefore he is going to bite his tongue and just brood sourly | ||
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Maghetti
United States2429 Posts
On January 18 2012 19:02 Asha` wrote: Definitely a top 4 GSL candidate... ...lol patchy series. I'm not necessarily saying Artosis is right in his analysis but this is just strawmaning what he said. He said in a couple seasons he could get a top 4 because he has POTENTIAL. Plus is was vs Alive who is insanely good and it was a close 2-1 series.. | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
3 protoss 3 zergs 6 terran. So not really extremely imbalanced as it has been in the past. | ||
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-y0shi-
Germany994 Posts
On January 18 2012 19:05 Fionn wrote: Brown had that game 100%. He had two bases. Alive was all-inning. All Brown had to do was sit at his base, produce some units and wait for the failed all-in by Alive. Brown did basically the worst thing he could ever possibly do in the spot he was in. Only thing worse would be killing his own buildings. I get that but it just seems that, even when hes ahead, the moment he moves out hes caught in a baserace :/ How long is he supposed to sit back there? | ||
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parazice
Thailand5517 Posts
On January 18 2012 19:03 -y0shi- wrote: How the hell can you even attack in tvp? If you move out you die.. Man this is depressing in that game you don't need to attack Brown have more base just df and tech | ||
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Raambo11
United States828 Posts
On January 18 2012 19:06 Reggae-Troll wrote: This is just so wrong on every front. What you should change this too is Lesson: 1) DONT ATTACK WHEN YOUR AHEAD IN BASES AND HES GOING ALL IN | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
1) Brown traded army for SCVs and later Alive got hero EMP off 2) 1 terrible engagement from Alive 3) Brown out of position eventhough he was ahead 2 base vs 1 base | ||
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
On January 18 2012 19:03 Olinimm wrote: Well correct me if im wrong but I never see top protosses doing 1 base colossus vs 1/1/1. MC always does 1 gate expo and makes immortals etc. And I do think he knows more about PvT than artosis. I'm going to correct you because you are wrong. Protoss almost ALWAYS respond to 1/1/1 with collosi. Usually expand first but collosi are definitely the tech tree of choice against 1/1/1 | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On January 18 2012 19:04 twndomn wrote: lesson: 1. Crossfire PvT, Protoss should just GG, free win for Terran on this map, awesome design. 2. Insane Micro and FF will not save the Protoss 3. Terran 1-base all in = win Seriously? The map did not matter. The match-up didn't matter. Brown WON THAT GAME. He won. He had two bases and was about to get into higher tech with an extra base against an all-inning Terran who just lost half his army. Brown, for whatever reason, took his army and left his bases wide open to check on Alive's base for some reason. It's like LegalMind took over Brown's body. | ||
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ftd.rain
United Kingdom539 Posts
On January 18 2012 19:03 -y0shi- wrote: How the hell can you even attack in tvp? If you move out you die.. Man this is depressing Why would you move out to attack when you are ahead in bases and your opponent has medivacs and is ahead army wise and tech wise?Also, why not make warp prisms to punish the terran for moving out just like they do with medivacs?Man, this bias is depressing . | ||
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Sareth
Germany1008 Posts
On January 18 2012 19:02 Belha wrote: I only want to aLive not make into ro16, that guy do not deserve that spot. There are MKP and Happy  They should come out of this group, if Brown doesnt step up in the loosers game. | ||
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Haydin
United States1481 Posts
On January 18 2012 19:05 Fionn wrote: Brown had that game 100%. He had two bases. Alive was all-inning. All Brown had to do was sit at his base, produce some units and wait for the failed all-in by Alive. Brown did basically the worst thing he could ever possibly do in the spot he was in. Only thing worse would be killing his own buildings. He basically scouted with his entire army instead of an obs/halluc/probe/zealot around the time medivacs come out on probably the best map for terran drops (maybe 2nd after shakuras) Brown essentially did the same thing he did in G1. Did some brilliant, surgical trimming down of Alives troops, but then just moved his army too far in and it just got killed/circumvented. Stuff like that makes reinforces my thought that brown is probably having some nerve issues right now, which is understandable for a guy's code S debut. | ||
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MVTaylor
United Kingdom2893 Posts
On January 18 2012 19:04 twndomn wrote: lesson: 1. Crossfire PvT, Protoss should just GG, free win for Terran on this map, awesome design. 2. Insane Micro and FF will not save the Protoss 3. Terran 1-base all in = win Brown moved his entire army down the map when he was ahead on bases while Alive dropped two medivacs in his main. His options were a base trade or walking all the units slowly back home, he'd have definitely lost a base trade and also lost by retreating, having said that if he'd not had an artosis pylon powering all his stuff he may have been in better shape | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
On January 18 2012 19:06 -y0shi- wrote: I get that but it just seems that, even when hes ahead, the moment he moves out hes caught in a baserace :/ How long is he supposed to sit back there? Ironically, Artosis gave the best advice pertaining to this situation: "When you're ahead, get MORE ahead." If the Terran decides to just all-in at that point, which Alive was about to, then he'll get crushed because Brown has 2 bases to 1 and alive missed his timing, plus he lost a significant amount of units already. Brown should've just stayed in his base no matter what. | ||
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Fullback
Argentina170 Posts
On January 18 2012 19:06 -y0shi- wrote: I get that but it just seems that, even when hes ahead, the moment he moves out hes caught in a baserace :/ How long is he supposed to sit back there? The moment his economy is so far ahead that he can afford defending properly while attacking, ofc. Or warp prisms. | ||
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