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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
January 16 2012 13:27 GMT
#1521
Reminder that the KSL is on in 40 minutes for anyone still kicking around

IM vs NSHoseo Bo11 clan war.

I'm not sure if Virgil's around to make a LR thread as normal or if someone else will need to, I'd do it myself but I'm expecting a client visit at some point this afternoon so not sure if I'll be around to actually updated (which defeats the purpose of being the one to make it TT)
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
January 16 2012 13:27 GMT
#1522
On January 16 2012 22:25 Xacalite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 22:22 Tsubbi wrote:
gom tried everything, maps, format, group selection, still gomtvt


gom"yournotallowedtobuildmarines"tv would maybe solve that issue....maybe.....maybe also no tanks and banshees


Dude, you're advocating marauder/hellion/thor. YOU CRAZY
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 13:30:09
January 16 2012 13:29 GMT
#1523
*wrong thread*
Xacalite
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany533 Posts
January 16 2012 13:30 GMT
#1524
On January 16 2012 22:27 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 22:25 Xacalite wrote:
On January 16 2012 22:22 Tsubbi wrote:
gom tried everything, maps, format, group selection, still gomtvt


gom"yournotallowedtobuildmarines"tv would maybe solve that issue....maybe.....maybe also no tanks and banshees


Dude, you're advocating marauder/hellion/thor. YOU CRAZY


HOLY....im so sorry. of course no thors. and also blue flame can not be researched. yes terrans. Viking Marauder gogogogo
I feel fear...for the last time
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
January 16 2012 13:30 GMT
#1525
On January 16 2012 22:17 pdd wrote:
Looking very likely that it'll be GomTvT again... so many Terrans


So far..


Out of 8 Zergs only 2 have advanced
Out of 3 Protoss 2 have advanced
Out of 9 Terran 6 have advanced

Only 1 Zerg left in ro32 (DRG) along with 6 T and 5 P.

Having said that with the Zergs that haven't made it being the foreigner invites and those who have made pretty bad mistakes - Yugioh all of today and Zenio in that last game it's only really the players themselves to blame. Only Zerg who didn't advance that I'm truly surprised about is Leenock.
@followMVT
secretary bird
Profile Joined September 2011
447 Posts
January 16 2012 13:31 GMT
#1526
Anybody who expected a different result is crazy. Gumiho and MMA were praying for a group like this, two zergs with bad ZvT,
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
January 16 2012 13:32 GMT
#1527
On January 16 2012 22:17 Leetley wrote:
Gumiho has so good upgrades in every game...


I think thats a problem many zergs struggle with: keeping up in upgrades with terrans.

Well upgraded marines do incredibly well against zerg and a 8 marine drop with a medivac is almost untouchable with zerglings (especially inbetween the mineral line and buildings).
These drops are hard to kill and can deal enormous amounts of damage to the zergs economy in split seconds.

In order to be safe against that stuff and regain map control zerg gets mutas and their upgrades, get banelings and baneling speed against marines (and/or infestors), all of which are gas intensive leaving them unable to upgrade ground weapons and armor at the same time (they have to delay it and fall behind in upgrades).

For some reason many terrans dont go for double upgrades (even though they are perfectly safe to do so in MOST cases) and therefore dont abuse the fact that zerg has to use gas units in order to counter a mineral unit.

As long as zerg has to use gas units against marines, there is just no way they can keep up in upgrades and i think in the long run every terran will go for fast double upgrades.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
January 16 2012 13:34 GMT
#1528
On January 16 2012 22:30 Xacalite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 22:27 Hassybaby wrote:
On January 16 2012 22:25 Xacalite wrote:
On January 16 2012 22:22 Tsubbi wrote:
gom tried everything, maps, format, group selection, still gomtvt


gom"yournotallowedtobuildmarines"tv would maybe solve that issue....maybe.....maybe also no tanks and banshees


Dude, you're advocating marauder/hellion/thor. YOU CRAZY


HOLY....im so sorry. of course no thors. and also blue flame can not be researched. yes terrans. Viking Marauder gogogogo

Viking Marauder was actually the norm in TvP for a short period of time.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37107 Posts
January 16 2012 13:34 GMT
#1529
On January 16 2012 22:31 secretary bird wrote:
Anybody who expected a different result is crazy. Gumiho and MMA were praying for a group like this, two zergs with bad ZvT,

Believe me. For a while there, GuMiho looked like he BELONGED in Code A...
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
January 16 2012 13:35 GMT
#1530
On January 16 2012 22:34 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 22:31 secretary bird wrote:
Anybody who expected a different result is crazy. Gumiho and MMA were praying for a group like this, two zergs with bad ZvT,

Believe me. For a while there, GuMiho looked like he BELONGED in Code B...


FTFY
@followMVT
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
January 16 2012 13:37 GMT
#1531
On January 16 2012 22:22 Tsubbi wrote:
gom tried everything, maps, format, group selection, still gomtvt


Why are you guys talking about GomTvT?!?

There are so many games remaining. And even analyzing current games show a different story. Despite Z's taking a beating, Protoss is doing great. Both T's and P's currently have a 66% rate of making into the next round. There's plenty of P talent remaining as well, so I expect many more P's to make it into GSL. I predict R16 to be 8 Terrans, 7 protoss, and 3 Z, with P having the highest rate of advancing(90% v. 53%). But it's too early to judge because those games have not happened yet so my prediction or anyone else's might be entirely wrong.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Xacalite
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany533 Posts
January 16 2012 13:37 GMT
#1532
was there not a strategy a while back that relied on super fast 2 evochamber 1/1 for the lings and then be safe against almost anything because your lings are no linge shit. come to think of it Ive never seen it in the GSL. maybe Nestea did it a year ago but then it faded away in korea. I see that a lot in random streams and replays though
I feel fear...for the last time
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
January 16 2012 13:37 GMT
#1533
On January 16 2012 22:30 mvtaylor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 22:17 pdd wrote:
Looking very likely that it'll be GomTvT again... so many Terrans


So far..


Out of 8 Zergs only 2 have advanced
Out of 3 Protoss 2 have advanced
Out of 9 Terran 6 have advanced

Only 1 Zerg left in ro32 (DRG) along with 6 T and 5 P.

Having said that with the Zergs that haven't made it being the foreigner invites and those who have made pretty bad mistakes - Yugioh all of today and Zenio in that last game it's only really the players themselves to blame. Only Zerg who didn't advance that I'm truly surprised about is Leenock.



well so the rate so far, taking out the 2 foreigner zergs is 33.3% zerg success rate, 66.6% terran success rate and 66.6% protoss success rate. Looks decent so far to me....

Not to mention another zerg besides idra was gone when he was seeded into the same group as MVP and Nestea.

Don't see the fuss to be honest. Leenock is the only surprise.
secretary bird
Profile Joined September 2011
447 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 13:40:13
January 16 2012 13:38 GMT
#1534
sorry delete please
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 13:43:28
January 16 2012 13:40 GMT
#1535
On January 16 2012 22:37 Xacalite wrote:
was there not a strategy a while back that relied on super fast 2 evochamber 1/1 for the lings and then be safe against almost anything because your lings are no linge shit. come to think of it Ive never seen it in the GSL. maybe Nestea did it a year ago but then it faded away in korea. I see that a lot in random streams and replays though


Yes and unfortunately its very easy to counter: blueflame helions.
Stephano used it against boxer in mlg and got stomped on by boxer´s helions.
In general i agree with you that fast 1/1 upgrades for lings are good if it wasnt for the fact that it is easy to counter with blueflame helions, since they dont give a shit about lings.

For this fact alone it becomes a diceroll. If terran opens reactor helion, fast 1/! upgrades for lings are a waste since terran is in a perfect situation to react to your double evo as soon as they scout it and just proceed to produce more helions.
Since reactor helion openings are pretty common, fast 1/1 upgrades went out of fashion again.
petrox
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia320 Posts
January 16 2012 13:47 GMT
#1536
the real pity is not having CoCa in instead of yugioh =(, would've had more talented zergs in the code s pool
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
January 16 2012 13:50 GMT
#1537
Code S is getting better and better every day! Really nice matches today
Junichi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1056 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 13:50:39
January 16 2012 13:50 GMT
#1538
Oh, I'm surprised... I turned off the GSL while Zenio was playing against Gumiho because I was sure Zenio was gonna win... And frankly I think it should have been MMA + Zenio advancing. But well, whoever wins, wins... and I didn't see the matches, gl to MMA + Gumiho
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
bbm
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1320 Posts
January 16 2012 13:54 GMT
#1539
People complaining about GOMTvT need to remember that, in a hypothetical world where play is perfectly balanced, the amount of terrans will, on average, stay the same amount, regardless of proportion compared to the other races. If there were 31 terrans, and one protoss in the GSL, and everything was balanced and players were equally skilled, then that one protoss would have a 50% chance of advancing through his group, the same as any of the terrans in their group.

To remove terrans from the GSL GOM would have to make conditions inherently unbalanced in favour of zerg and protoss. And no-one wants that (I think).
By.Sun or By.Rain, he always delivers
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
January 16 2012 14:01 GMT
#1540
From my point of view...as a Terran Player...i dont get why most Zerg Players are not trying to copy NesTea Style...he is steamrolling through Terran...well at least i think he is crushing Terran pretty hard.

I dont get why people blame GOM for the situation.
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