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Let's have a nice clean LR thread folks! Beware that moderation will probably be stricter than usual, balance whine, player bashing and trolling will not be tolerated!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
January 11 2012 12:58 GMT
#4661
On January 11 2012 21:57 Scribble wrote:
If no foreigner is seeded into code S next season, makes it through code A, or makes it through up & downs, it will be the first season of GSL where code S doesn't have at least 1 foreigner.


I guess they'll get someone in through a sponsor seed anyway.
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
January 11 2012 12:58 GMT
#4662
On January 11 2012 21:55 Adreme wrote:
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On January 11 2012 21:53 Drazerk wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:52 Leetley wrote:
Okay... what do you have to do to deal with all those ghosts. Snipe outreaches broodlings, right?


Corruption. Never let them build the ghosts / Ravens


Roaches, lings are actually pretty good. Overall he just turtled and let MVP get the most expensive army in the history of history and got rolled by it.


Roaches and lings that late into the game, what are you smoking? rofl
Mvp also had some planetary fortress and tanks.
deathzz
Profile Joined September 2011
669 Posts
January 11 2012 12:58 GMT
#4663
On January 11 2012 21:57 snafoo wrote:
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On January 11 2012 21:55 Mawi wrote:
he let the terran turtle to so many ghosts so its lucky faulth, but still fucking sick awesome game will remember for ever


there was no way he could punish MVP really, he was at a disadvantage the entire game from losing his third, MVP probably could of attacked in the midgame and won, but he played extremely safe as he wanted to guarantee his advancement.

well lucky had quite alot of resources banked. maybe he could have tried to trade a bit with mvp instead of letting him get so many things
Korean overlords
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
January 11 2012 12:58 GMT
#4664
On January 11 2012 21:55 cyclone25 wrote:
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On January 11 2012 21:53 Ysellian wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:52 Leetley wrote:
Okay... what do you have to do to deal with all those ghosts. Snipe outreaches broodlings, right?


Please don't start. Lucky was way behind after losing all those drones + hatch and that allowed MVP to mess around like this.


They were on equal bases, and Lucky had like 5k minerals banked up to Mvp's 1k. He wasn't behind.

He was cause he had nothing to stop MVP from messing around that crazy, Lucky had to play extremly passive. MVP did harass the whole game, did you see any harassment worth mentioning from Lucky? I dont think so...
You just cant let MVP play whatever he wants.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
January 11 2012 12:58 GMT
#4665
On January 11 2012 21:55 Ryps wrote:
Why was that game so good ? The nukes were fun but all they did is macro up and ghosts killing everything, seemed too onesided to be fun. I am not whining about ghosts,,


Hrm? There was a ton of harass, MVP hit two seperate timings, one of which killed 20 or so drones and a hatch, the other which Lucky held with a nice roach flank. It quieted down a bit once it hit the 4 base stage but there was still plenty of things going on all over the map. There were lots of nice little things too like Lucky getting OS speed so his muta + OS could be a mobile ghost sniper, having patrolling OS's on the pathways to avoid cloaked ghosts sneaking up on him etc. MVP did that awesome nuke drop and set aside one ghost to snipe out incoming overseers while his other ghosts did the actual nuking.

There was a lot of really high level play from both, and the action was pretty constant for what was basically a split map scenario.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 11 2012 12:58 GMT
#4666
On January 11 2012 21:55 Leetley wrote:
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On January 11 2012 21:53 Ysellian wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:52 Leetley wrote:
Okay... what do you have to do to deal with all those ghosts. Snipe outreaches broodlings, right?


Please don't start. Lucky was way behind after losing all those drones + hatch and that allowed MVP to mess around like this.

I don't want to start anything. Yes, Lucky was behind in other resources... kinda.


Lucky bungled the attack and let the ghosts live, ran out of gas to get another ultimate composition with, while losing all his hatcheries so had no larvae.

He wasn't 'behind' when they were both maxed out, but MVP just knows what to do when it becomes a max vs max turtling game and Lucky didn't stop him.
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Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
January 11 2012 12:58 GMT
#4667
Lucky had a huge bank, but he had no hatches for larvae to mass reproduce, he was kinda forced into making ultras
Fabsi
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany24 Posts
January 11 2012 12:59 GMT
#4668
On January 11 2012 21:54 Inflicted_ wrote:
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On January 11 2012 21:53 Fabsi wrote:
hm, don't quite know what to say about that game. obviously well played by MVP but ghosts and turtleing terran always leaves such a foul taste in my mouth. gg anyway i guess!


Turtling terrans can get crushed easily (see: Leenock vs ForGG). What MVP does, isn't just pure turtling but getting the ultimate composition with ghosts while doing mass-drops to kill off the 4th/5th/6th bases to starve off the Zerg and reduce their re-max capabilities.


yea, i agree. terran is just so well equiped for these scenarios, if a player of MVPs caliber is in command and has the apm/understanding to pull it off. 3/3 marine drops really are a mayor part of the strategy.

ot: kind of funny imagining a 8 ling drop (or lets say 16 lings = same supply) destroying 3 bunkers and a oc/pf.
jkos86
Profile Joined March 2011
50 Posts
January 11 2012 12:59 GMT
#4669
Lucky was behind, he lost a base and tonnes of drones. He was CONSTANTLY getting harrassed as mvp macroed up an insane unit comp. No offence to Lucky but Mvp is the best player in the world and that shouldve looked more onesided in mvps favour after sniping so many drones and hatch so early.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 11 2012 12:59 GMT
#4670
bring on the post games whining
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
January 11 2012 12:59 GMT
#4671
On January 11 2012 21:58 R!! wrote:
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On January 11 2012 21:56 OrangeSoda wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:55 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:54 Sub40APM wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:52 LittLeD wrote:
An hive-tech energy-regeneration upgrade for infestor...hmm? Im just shooting ideas here but I think something feels slightly shewed in these late-game scenarios for zerg against a bazillion ghosts.

BTW, AMAAAAZING game and play from MVP. He simply is the god among men.

yah i mean, if you let terran to turrtle up to 20 ghosts...what can you do


Do what DRG does, Ultrabanelings>>ghosts


haha ultras vs 20 ghosts, you are funny

Pretty sure that 15 ultras backed up by infestors eat ghosts like np.


i hope you're joking.... lol
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 13:00:36
January 11 2012 12:59 GMT
#4672
On January 11 2012 21:53 bittman wrote:
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On January 11 2012 21:53 Hypemeup wrote:
Ultrawhine inc.


Nah ghost whine inc.

Something about how it counters everything Zerg or something silly

MVP was insanely far ahead. It's normally the zerg that forces lategame and forces a response from terran. That game MVP just kind of said "look I can win you right here, but lets go lategame" and started making the perfect combo of units and defensive PFs. When your opponent gets enough ghosts, pfs and nukes, sure it can get hard to hold onto, but aside from MVP being insanely good, the only reason it worked so well there was that he went quite smoothly into the "tier 3 can't touch me" ball by being ahead.

In an even game, you can't just make 30 ghosts, It takes way to long, and then pure ling bling can walk over it(if there weren't PFs around and he didn't force the zerg to attack the terran's home turf).
AnotherZerg
Profile Joined January 2012
France18 Posts
January 11 2012 12:59 GMT
#4673
i'm not into terran player, but that last game, mvp played really cool. Nuke, bc!
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
January 11 2012 12:59 GMT
#4674
On January 11 2012 21:58 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 21:56 NipponBanzai wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:55 cyclone25 wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:53 Ysellian wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:52 Leetley wrote:
Okay... what do you have to do to deal with all those ghosts. Snipe outreaches broodlings, right?


Please don't start. Lucky was way behind after losing all those drones + hatch and that allowed MVP to mess around like this.


They were on equal bases, and Lucky had like 5k minerals banked up to Mvp's 1k. He wasn't behind.


Because how much money you have banked has anything to do with being behind or not o.O


It kind of does.


Lolwut? Do you people even play this game? I can bank a ton of fucking money and still be behind in macro, army size and composition, tech, any number of things.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 13:01:31
January 11 2012 12:59 GMT
#4675
ghost are NOT good against lings... sure they 2 shot them, but with such slow attack speed and ling's incredible dps lings will destroy ghosts at just 1/2 resource costs.

Ultra/bane/ling is actually decent against heavy ghost composition. Ultra can tank 11 snipes, and bane/ling forces ghost to either die and snipe ultras or run and try to get away

anyway, I don't see why zerg don't just use heavy brood + queens. Queens transfuse outheal snipes dmg easily, and they can do so at 15 yards away from the ghosts
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
January 11 2012 12:59 GMT
#4676
MVP is truly the best player.
Gesh
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria69 Posts
January 11 2012 13:00 GMT
#4677
I'm kinda sad because of Idra, but at least my liquibet is clean today.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 11 2012 13:00 GMT
#4678
On January 11 2012 21:59 snafoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 21:58 R!! wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:56 OrangeSoda wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:55 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:54 Sub40APM wrote:
On January 11 2012 21:52 LittLeD wrote:
An hive-tech energy-regeneration upgrade for infestor...hmm? Im just shooting ideas here but I think something feels slightly shewed in these late-game scenarios for zerg against a bazillion ghosts.

BTW, AMAAAAZING game and play from MVP. He simply is the god among men.

yah i mean, if you let terran to turrtle up to 20 ghosts...what can you do


Do what DRG does, Ultrabanelings>>ghosts


haha ultras vs 20 ghosts, you are funny

Pretty sure that 15 ultras backed up by infestors eat ghosts like np.


i hope you're joking.... lol

How so? Ultra/banes with some Infestors to Fungal the Ghost squad does work.
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
January 11 2012 13:00 GMT
#4679
the last game was awesome xD

i bet mvp thought he had it when he killed the 3rd and 20 drones for free, but the push failed...
and then we had a crazy endgame unfold, he could have forced the issue one more time i think, but instead he let things equalize and showed his answer to game 1 as a matter of pride xD

hellyeah!
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
January 11 2012 13:00 GMT
#4680
On January 11 2012 21:58 StarVe wrote:
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On January 11 2012 21:57 Scribble wrote:
If no foreigner is seeded into code S next season, makes it through code A, or makes it through up & downs, it will be the first season of GSL where code S doesn't have at least 1 foreigner.


I guess they'll get someone in through a sponsor seed anyway.

Yeah, it looks like that's exactly what the sponsor seeds are for.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
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